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Historic NY

(37,410 posts)
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:07 PM May 2022

14 Kids, 1 Teacher Dead After Shooting At Texas Elementary School

Source: Breaking 911 news

UVALDE, Texas — Fourteen students and one teacher were killed during an active shooter incident Tuesday at a Texas elementary school, officials said.

The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District said on social media there was “an active shooter at Robb Elementary,” saying, “Law enforcement is on site. Your cooperation is needed at this time by not visiting the campus. As soon as more information is gathered it will be shared.”

Read more: https://breaking911.com/developping-several-students-hospitalized-after-reports-of-mass-shooting-at-texas-elementary-school/

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14 Kids, 1 Teacher Dead After Shooting At Texas Elementary School (Original Post) Historic NY May 2022 OP
USA! USA! USA! Coventina May 2022 #1
Only the best people hibbing May 2022 #7
Holy shit lonely bird May 2022 #9
you're an optimist. nt Javaman May 2022 #10
Shit wryter2000 May 2022 #2
It'll never end, right? Hav May 2022 #3
What the hell is breaking911.com? SpankMe May 2022 #4
A news app. Historic NY May 2022 #8
After reading Spank Me's canetoad May 2022 #43
Well my county emergency services here in NY had the information out before the Historic NY May 2022 #48
18-year-old shooter, Salvador Romas, is now dead. speak easy May 2022 #5
Word is being circulated that he was mad because he wasn't going to be allowed to graduate. hamsterjill May 2022 #25
So he shot up an ELEMENTARY school because he wasn't going to graduate HIGH school?? Nay May 2022 #47
That's what is being said. hamsterjill May 2022 #51
OMG, I heard a report about shooting in progress but this is devastating, not again!!!! nt yaesu May 2022 #6
don't you worry, the fascist right wing in here in texas won't do a damn thing, oh wait... Javaman May 2022 #11
"Much too soon to talk about gun control" durablend May 2022 #38
I grew up there. hamsterjill May 2022 #12
i was supposed to be in that area last weekend but had to cancel. moonshinegnomie May 2022 #14
The whole area is in shock. hamsterjill May 2022 #45
ted cruz is already sending thoughts and prayers moonshinegnomie May 2022 #13
More likely that Ted Cruz is wnylib May 2022 #28
God damn Wild blueberry May 2022 #15
Madness. maxsolomon May 2022 #16
not madness DBoon May 2022 #27
Yes. durablend May 2022 #39
They don't care. OBVIOUSLY. Justice matters. May 2022 #46
Another source, for the thread Lasher May 2022 #17
Just another day in fascist America. ananda May 2022 #18
God did not write the Second Amendment Mysterian May 2022 #19
just like the bible, the right wing selectively picks and chooses what it likes Javaman May 2022 #22
this will be traumatic NJCher May 2022 #20
How long must the USA be hostage to insane gun worshippers and their enablers? Mysterian May 2022 #21
As long as we have a minority-rule form of government. PSPS May 2022 #23
It will never be enough, cilla4progress May 2022 #24
They're just kids. Now if it were fetuses, they might do something. The insanity! Lonestarblue May 2022 #31
Coming soon from Republicans, blame the unarmed! Emile May 2022 #26
Sadly, you are surely correct. wnylib May 2022 #30
And the kids too! durablend May 2022 #40
7,8, and 9 year olds. Where's all those pro-lifers? sinkingfeeling May 2022 #29
My guess is that this was wnylib May 2022 #32
Strength to all involved. 😔 electric_blue68 May 2022 #33
I just turned on the TV-busy most of day. I am stunned. We listen to the local news riversedge May 2022 #34
Gov Abbott .... Historic NY May 2022 #35
Incomprehensibly, huh? tanyev May 2022 #44
It's just awful DashOneBravo May 2022 #36
My god. Nt. underpants May 2022 #37
Alex Jones trial. liberalgunwilltravel May 2022 #41
WNY Native liberalgunwilltravel May 2022 #42
goddamn coward llashram May 2022 #49
Republican John Thune blames shooting victims for failing to 'take precautions' and 'get small' to a keithbvadu2 May 2022 #50
No they need to be fetus size! burrowowl May 2022 #52
The tweet is five years old, but ManiacJoe May 2022 #57
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho May 2022 #53
I read it is now 18 kids and 3 adults? Skittles May 2022 #54
Local news reporting 19 children now hamsterjill May 2022 #55
Up to 19 kids and 2 teachers Bayard May 2022 #56

hibbing

(10,068 posts)
7. Only the best people
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:18 PM
May 2022

Her campaign slogan is "Jesus, Guns, and Babies, Morality Over Money!

I bring you Kandiss Taylor, candidate for the governor of Georgia.

https://kandisstaylor.com/

Peace

wryter2000

(45,980 posts)
2. Shit
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:11 PM
May 2022

I thought the word was it wasn't on school property. Mixed messages go out during the chaos, I guess.

Every gun nut in this country has the blood of little children on their hands right now. Again.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
3. It'll never end, right?
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:14 PM
May 2022

It even seems that these events give copycats the final push to do the next shooting and it goes on and on.

canetoad

(17,018 posts)
43. After reading Spank Me's
Tue May 24, 2022, 05:54 PM
May 2022

Post, I looked up the site and the WHOIS. They are a very mysterious website. Not one bit of information anywhere I can easily find.

Historic NY

(37,410 posts)
48. Well my county emergency services here in NY had the information out before the
Tue May 24, 2022, 06:27 PM
May 2022

rest of the networks.

speak easy

(8,944 posts)
5. 18-year-old shooter, Salvador Romas, is now dead.
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:16 PM
May 2022

The 18-year-old shooter, Salvador Romas, who is now deceased, abandoned his car and entered Robb Elementary in Uvalde with a handgun and possibly a rifle.

The suspect shot his grandmother before entering the school. He is reported to have been a student at Uvalde High School and is a U.S. citizen.

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/active-shooter-confirmed-at-texas-elementary-school-officials-say-uvalde-robbe-elementary-school-shooting-police-presence-parents-kids-children-sandy-hook-texas-school-district


hamsterjill

(15,168 posts)
25. Word is being circulated that he was mad because he wasn't going to be allowed to graduate.
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:56 PM
May 2022

No real information, but that's the story circulating locally. No reason has been given as to what would be keeping him from graduating.

hamsterjill

(15,168 posts)
51. That's what is being said.
Tue May 24, 2022, 06:59 PM
May 2022

He’s shot his grandmother before going to the school. Unknown if she is alive or dead. Details are sketchy of course.

No idea why he picked Robb Elementary.

Javaman

(62,347 posts)
11. don't you worry, the fascist right wing in here in texas won't do a damn thing, oh wait...
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:24 PM
May 2022

they will give their thoughts and prayers. fuckers.

the poor kids and the poor families.

nothing will be done to curb gun violence.

hamsterjill

(15,168 posts)
12. I grew up there.
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:26 PM
May 2022

If this doesn't tell the "good guys need guns" crowd something, nothing ever will. I guarantee you that at least 50% of the population of that area walk around packing. I am not joking.

I have a relative down there whose coworker's two children were in that school. One child is safe, and one is unaccounted for. Presumably one of the victims.

I just cannot imagine the grief and anguish. The waiting to find out the inevitable.

Something has GOT to make this stop.

hamsterjill

(15,168 posts)
45. The whole area is in shock.
Tue May 24, 2022, 06:06 PM
May 2022

We haven’t received official confirmation that the child mentioned in my post is dead, but someone reported seeing the police talking to the parents and the parents falling to the ground screaming. So we are sure the child was one killed.

There are many parents that will be falling to the ground tonight. I am heartsick and I am SO angry!!!

There are reports of one father who lives near the school who went to his child’s classroom and broke a window and started pulling children through. Thank God for people like this!!!

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
28. More likely that Ted Cruz is
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:58 PM
May 2022

preparing a statement about how people should not forget that this is the noble price we pay to guard the sacred 2nd amendment.

(His sentiments, not mine.)

maxsolomon

(32,784 posts)
16. Madness.
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:28 PM
May 2022

Absolute insanity that this keeps happening over and over.

Is this how you want it, Gunners? Unfettered access for a disorganized militia?

Justice matters.

(6,816 posts)
46. They don't care. OBVIOUSLY.
Tue May 24, 2022, 06:17 PM
May 2022

They are devoid of any compassion for others. That's how they're wired.🤬🤬🤬

Lasher

(27,404 posts)
17. Another source, for the thread
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:37 PM
May 2022
14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting, Texas governor says: LIVE

The suspect was identified as 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, a student at Uvalde High School.

UVALDE, Texas -- Fourteen students and a teacher are dead after a shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, according to Gov. Greg Abbott.

The 18-year-old suspect, a student at Uvalde High School, is also dead, he said.

"He shot and killed horrifically and incomprehensibly 14 students and killed a teacher," Abbott said during an unrelated press briefing.

The suspect also allegedly shot his grandmother before entering the school and again opening fire, Abbott said. He did not say anything further about her condition.

https://abc13.com/uvalde-texas-robb-elementary-school-active-shooter-district-lockdown/11889693/

Javaman

(62,347 posts)
22. just like the bible, the right wing selectively picks and chooses what it likes
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:47 PM
May 2022

and throws away the rest.

NJCher

(35,191 posts)
20. this will be traumatic
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:42 PM
May 2022

for the Sandy Hook parents, where 20 kids and 6 school staff were killed.

It's incomprehensible that we have to keep reliving this nightmare.

Mysterian

(4,448 posts)
21. How long must the USA be hostage to insane gun worshippers and their enablers?
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:45 PM
May 2022

When will we rise up and free ourselves from the endless madness and tragedy?

PSPS

(13,440 posts)
23. As long as we have a minority-rule form of government.
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:50 PM
May 2022

Gun control, like many other things, is supported by a vast majority of the country but, with the NRA-funded GOP having the power to veto everything, nothing will ever be done.

Lonestarblue

(9,723 posts)
31. They're just kids. Now if it were fetuses, they might do something. The insanity!
Tue May 24, 2022, 05:02 PM
May 2022

I can’t believe that millions of people still believe that guns make us safer. Tell that to the thousands who die from gun violence every year. The right wing likes to say, oh that’s just black people killing black people, so take away the guns from the black people and everything will be fine. BS. School killings and church killings and mall killings have been done by white people. This may be the first time a Hispanic male has been the school shooter.

Emile

(21,078 posts)
26. Coming soon from Republicans, blame the unarmed!
Tue May 24, 2022, 04:56 PM
May 2022

Watch and see, if only the teachers would have had a gun.

electric_blue68

(14,412 posts)
33. Strength to all involved. 😔
Tue May 24, 2022, 05:03 PM
May 2022

And "glad" it's not anywhere near where my liberal Texas friend lives outside of Dallas.

She being a Texan, a mom, and almost sure for sensible gun control this will emotionally smack her.

riversedge

(69,369 posts)
34. I just turned on the TV-busy most of day. I am stunned. We listen to the local news
Tue May 24, 2022, 05:10 PM
May 2022

at 5 pm and I had to calm my 96 old mom down. she just kept asking why why why......... [and of course I have no answer).

Historic NY

(37,410 posts)
35. Gov Abbott ....
Tue May 24, 2022, 05:10 PM
May 2022

“He shot and killed horrifically, incomprehensibly, 14 students, and killed a teacher,” Mr. Abbott said.

Well Governor, every one of this incident is horrific. Thinks of what was going through the children's minds.

41. Alex Jones trial.
Tue May 24, 2022, 05:47 PM
May 2022

I wonder if this will appropriately affect the Texas trial of Alex Jones and what he owns the Sandy Hook families for his slander.

llashram

(6,263 posts)
49. goddamn coward
Tue May 24, 2022, 06:33 PM
May 2022

I'm glad he is dead. No excuse for a mentally ill person to have access to a lethal weapon. Better vetting

keithbvadu2

(36,117 posts)
50. Republican John Thune blames shooting victims for failing to 'take precautions' and 'get small' to a
Tue May 24, 2022, 06:44 PM
May 2022

Republican John Thune blames shooting victims for failing to ‘take precautions’ and ‘get small’ to avoid gunfire

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&q=john+thune+get+small&oq=john+thune+get+small&gs_l=psy-ab.3...3097.9271.0.12241.22.21.1.0.0.0.342.3363.0j8j6j2.16.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..5.12.2109...0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i13k1j0i22i30k1.0.irTeBlqb0Xk

Advice to people to avoid mass-shootings from Sen. Thune (R-NRA) "Get small."

20 children died in Newtown. Were they not small enough?

Sancho

(9,060 posts)
53. People Control, Not Gun Control
Tue May 24, 2022, 08:16 PM
May 2022

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

hamsterjill

(15,168 posts)
55. Local news reporting 19 children now
Tue May 24, 2022, 11:02 PM
May 2022

And I saw one report saying 21. They found photos of AR-15’s on the shooter’s Instagram account and reports are that he was in full body armor.

There are reports that he wrecked his truck near the elementary school, so he may have planned to go to the high school or somewhere else and just wound up stranded near the elementary school. He had shot his grandmother before going to the school and she was airlifted to San Antonio but has since died.

Everything is still very fluid right now.

I wonder if the idiots I know in Uvalde who touted the belief that Sandy Hook was a lie will be saying anything now.

Bayard

(21,615 posts)
56. Up to 19 kids and 2 teachers
Tue May 24, 2022, 11:11 PM
May 2022

Before I turned off MSNBC.

They reported that the remaining kids were difficult to identify because of the way an assault rifle tears up a child. And they didn't have identification like finger prints or tattoos. With some, they were relying on DNA from the parents, or even--what clothes did your kid wear to school today? Think about that.

There was a clip of Asshole Cruz saying--this is why we need to have armed cops at every school or armed teachers.


I was talking to my niece tonight. Her little girl turned 2 in May. Asked her if she was planning on home schooling. She asked if I knew of any private schools being shot up (I don't). I keep flashing on this beautiful little girl's black hair and dark eyes like her good-looking Hispanic daddy, and thinking, most of the kids shot today were probably Hispanic. It had never hit before that some crazy may hate her because of the way she looks.

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