Latest Russian submarine is the longest ever and may carry nuclear torpedo

[machoneman]

Source: CNN

Russia launches the longest and maybe deadliest submarine after a long delay.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/23/europe/russia-belgorod-submarine-nuclear-torpedo-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

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The bigger the sub, the more likely it can be detected.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

1. As obscene as any war machine.

Symbols of human failure, generation after generation, to find any real world peace.

[Shermann]

2. A research vessel eh?

They must be researching ways to trigger a new cold war.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

3. Aren't both sides, always? America has $850 billion reasons a year to keep up appearances.

[ffr]

4. But what niche does such a platform fill? It doesn't.

What a stupid weapon and waste of money.

You realize you're all on the same planet. You poison the planet with radioactive fallout your people die too.

[XorXor]

30. Destroying carrier groups, I bet.

[Happy Hoosier]

32. That's what they'd hope, but....

... the Russian Navy is about as competent as the Russian Army. The Soviet Navy used to have some level of expertise. Still outclassed by the USN, but a threat to be reckoned with. The Russians should not be disregarded, but they are not the threat they'd like us to believe they are.

[purr-rat beauty]

5. The bigger they are, the harder they fall

this will sink nicely

[Chainfire]

6. The longest submarine ever says something about the psychology of the architects.

[Firestorm49]

9. Good one, Chainfire.

[paleotn]

10. Bingo.

Does it address a tactical or strategic problem? No. Does it provide capabilities they didn't have before? Not really. Does it build on existing capabilities? Not really that either. But hey! It's really really BIG!!!

[Happy Hoosier]

33. The Russian military is mostly about intimidation, not capability.

They like to tout numbers.... and advertise that their prototypes are "operational."

Ukraine has largely exposed them for what they are.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

14. Psychology/ propaganda of military speech in general...we got the biggest Nukes! Waaay big!

Some are shiny, some are very dark…all so beautiful, no?!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

20. Sometimes a submarine is just a cigar. nt

[maxrandb]

7. Hard to launch torpedoes from the ocean floor

Yes, it would be bad if the US and Russia started shooting at each other, but their military really does suck.

I guarantee you that there is not one single Russian submarine underway today, that does not have a US Fast Attack or Destroyer, or P8 Poseidon with a firing solution already dialed in on it.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

29. If not a US asset, then most certainly a NATO asset.

Any indication of a hostile move will end in a quick trip to Davy Jones' Locker.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. Russia wanted both a global navy and a world class army. In trying to get both they got half of each

[paleotn]

12. On the cheap too, not even counting the grift. They've got neither.

[Happy Hoosier]

34. And they don't have the budget to logistical expertise for either.

The Soviet military took a "quantity has a quality all its own" approach, though they still largely neglected logistics. The Soviet Navy was large, but not really capable of projecting global power and rarely did anything resembling a battle group venture far from home. They simply don't have the trained crews and logistics chain to do so. I remember in the late 80's when the Slava (now at the bottom of the Black Sea) went on a "good will tour" of the East Coast and it had trouble maneuvering into the ports because half the equipment on it didn't work and the crews didn't know how to repair it.

[paleotn]

11. Not this crap again....

Meant more for western media oohhhs and Aaaaas than anything actually useful or cutting edge.

- Propulsion appears to be the usual, skewback screws (propellers) normally found on an Oscar class. The screws themselves look kind of small. Smaller screws must rotate faster at any given speed than a larger screw. Faster rotation means more bubbles, more cavitation and more noise, regardless of actual screw design. Surely the operational screws will be bigger. Nice touch covering them though, like it's something super duper secret.

- Didn't even attempt a much quieter propulser. We and the Brits moved away from conventional screws on nuclear powered boats years ago. There's only so far you can go noise reduction wise with an exposed screw. The Russians outfitted a diesel-electric Kilo with a propulser some time ago. Borei class have them. Can't get it to work properly on a twin screw Oscar? So much for "research platform."

- The technology required for a truly stealthy, super fast, super extreme long range torpedo tipped with anything does not exist. Even for the US and China, who actually DO have deep pockets, it's still conceptual only. The technological hurdles are immense. But, but, but...it's got a nuclear warhead!!1!111!!!! So what. So did the old diesel Foxtrots the Soviets sorted during the Cuban Missile Crises.

[speak easy]

13. The Poseidon nuclear torpedo is desined to carry a 100 megaton bomb.

(as in a bigger nuke than has ever been detonated before). It is a doomsday weapon.

Doomsday Weapon: Russia Has Nuclear Torpedoes That Create Radioactive Tsunamis
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/doomsday-weapon-russia-has-nuclear-torpedoes-create-radioactive-tsunamis-184328

[Alexander Of Assyria]

16. Unreal...the world military is the most danger to civilians the world over. Exhibit 1 here of many

that could be tendered into the record of evidence.

Beginning with the tendering of the war inventory of America…that will take a while your honour!

[Mr.Bill]

21. And what would happen to the sub if it was anywhere within

hundreds of miles of an underwayer explosion like that?

[speak easy]

31. Think thousands of miles

https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/05/04/what-is-russia-s-poseidon-nuclear-drone-and-could-it-wipe-out-the-uk-in-a-radioactive-tsun

[DetlefK]

15. Russia always goes for the big flashy military projects, while the rest of their army suffers:

- Russia has taken old WWII-tanks out of storage and us now using them in Ukraine.

- A russian soldier on garrison-duty in occupied Ukraine was photographed wielding a WWI-rifle.

- According to blog-posts by russian soldiers, the russian army lacks basic equipment like toilet-paper and spades for digging trenches.



So, what does the russian army spend its money on?

A plane that would serve as a flying HQ during a nuclear war.

A submarine.



This is why russian soldiers fighting in ukrainan mud cannot have nice things.

[speak easy]

17. Not forgetting the upgraded ICBMs

and hypersonic cruise missiles. The common thread: doomsday weapons.

[NotASurfer]

18. All in on the wunderwaffe

Seems there is historical precedent

Seems it ended with apocalypse, a bunker, and a bullet

[Beastly Boy]

19. They are running out of world's longest submarines to scrap

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-navy-scraps-worlds-largest-nuclear-submarine-dmitry-donskoy-1726341

They need to sustain their submarine scrapping industry.

[twodogsbarking]

22. Mankind at its worst. Time for other countries to

build a bigger one. Sorry for that.

[artemisia1]

23. Given Russia's quality control and training standards, I would not be surprised if it joined the

Kursk at the bottom of the sea eventually.

[Evolve Dammit]

24. That's just great. More nuclear arms weapons races and development. Los Alamos scientists were

amazed we were still here 25 years ago. Wonder what their thoughts would be today. We seem intent on destroying ourselves on multiple fronts.

[twodogsbarking]

26. Crazy ain't it.

[Evolve Dammit]

27. Mind-numbingly insane.

[LudwigPastorius]

25. Maybe its first mission could be to...

rendezvous with the submarine Moskva.

[Happy Hoosier]

35. I remember when that ship was touted as the big, scary "carrier killer" NT

[hatrack]

28. Given what we've learned of Russia's military capabilities, just one question:

Will it float?