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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:28 PM Nov 2012

International observers cite 'concerns' in US vote

Source: Agence France-Presse

The 2012 US elections were conducted in a "professional manner," but "real concerns" remain, international observers said Wednesday.

"The electoral process enjoys broad public confidence," Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe mission chief Daan Everts said in a statement the day after the vote that saw President Barack Obama win a second four-year term.

"At the same time, there are real concerns over issues such as voting rights, the accuracy of voter lists, the transparency of campaign finance, recount procedures and access for international election observers."

... Eight states, including Alabama, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Mississippi, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Texas, denied OSCE observers access and two more, Alaska and Tennessee, offered only restricted access, which the OSCE refused.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h_AAwcArcFGBCYNI4rGYFwrxsnvw?docId=CNG.88ed296055c4842fdc7562cb5fa1fc38.661

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International observers cite 'concerns' in US vote (Original Post) Newsjock Nov 2012 OP
Please let's keep this high on the agenda! tblue Nov 2012 #1
figures heaven05 Nov 2012 #2
Good luck, Michigan! tblue Nov 2012 #22
Uh, three things. Heywood J Nov 2012 #23
I heaven05 Nov 2012 #28
No worries. Moroun spent a lot of money to make sure people were confused. (NT) Heywood J Nov 2012 #30
By the way, we have to fix this :) Amonester Nov 2012 #5
Ah HA!!! Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #16
Where's that? Russia? (*snark*) Amonester Nov 2012 #19
More places to vote and more machines than you need.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #20
these things need to be fixed pronto before next election wordpix Nov 2012 #3
The UN is coming!!! formercia Nov 2012 #4
Their cheating and vote suppression were not enough to win eridani Nov 2012 #6
In the Anonymous thread, he/she said the cheating was going to be reversed. I think I believe it. juajen Nov 2012 #12
Not sure about that. The fact that they didn't know for sure about Anonymous capabilities-- eridani Nov 2012 #17
That's food for thought. Thanks. n/t Ghost Dog Nov 2012 #24
Exactly so suffragette Nov 2012 #32
What's there to hide? defacto7 Nov 2012 #7
Hmmmm let's see GitRDun Nov 2012 #8
+1 Bozita Nov 2012 #11
Just what I suspected. progressoid Nov 2012 #15
Thanks for doing that - I was just about to. AAO Nov 2012 #29
HOW ABOUT 8 HOUR LONG LINES IN POOR DISTRICTS OF RED STATES? ErikJ Nov 2012 #9
I asked for a paper ballot in Utah icarusxat Nov 2012 #10
Let's Get Rid Of Corporately Owned Voting Machines YOHABLO Nov 2012 #13
USA, USA, USA, USA! SCVDem Nov 2012 #14
The hypocrisy lives on. LynnTheDem Nov 2012 #18
"Real Concerns" marions ghost Nov 2012 #21
No surprise there......All Republican Governors! demo dutch Nov 2012 #25
THE LIST OF STATES SEEM LIKE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES ROBROX Nov 2012 #26
I have an accent? SCVDem Nov 2012 #27
Did they not know what sour dough bread was, or what? Quantess Nov 2012 #31
our election process is suspect lovuian Nov 2012 #33

tblue

(16,350 posts)
1. Please let's keep this high on the agenda!
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:33 PM
Nov 2012

I am going to remind our Dems again and again til it's fixed.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
2. figures
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:49 PM
Nov 2012

my state, michigan with that right wing snake snyder and his defeated emergency manager ballot. It figures. All of the proposals 6 in all were defeated in this state. billions for an unneeded international bridge defeated. sanity did win yesterday, i just hope it lasts.

Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
23. Uh, three things.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:05 AM
Nov 2012

1) The vote to defeat Prop 6 means the bridge is going ahead. 2) The bridge won't be paid for by Michigan. 3) You've probably seen the traffic backups that go on for miles.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
28. I
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:48 PM
Nov 2012

admit I really was confused about this prop. and no I hear about the backups from time to time, but since I don't cross the border, I truly don't think about that element of the bridge controversy.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
5. By the way, we have to fix this :)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:20 PM
Nov 2012

Write en masse to: the electronic address or the Pennsilvanya-Avenue's snail-mail one!

And by en masse, I mean: Massively.

At the President's request!

Forward the facsimile to Congresscritters.

All Fired Up And Ready To Go!

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
19. Where's that? Russia? (*snark*)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:26 AM
Nov 2012



Oh yes, long overdue because it's shameful.

Do it and send the bill to the kkkoch's suckers so at least these billions of *theirs* won't be wasted on nothing.


The problem remains "HOW" to "fix" it: look at Election Canada or *sold* to the friking "pRivate sectoR" ?
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
20. More places to vote and more machines than you need....
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:34 AM
Nov 2012

When I went in here in California I had two people ahead of me and inside there were 20 machines and only three people using them.

Total time: 7 minutes.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
6. Their cheating and vote suppression were not enough to win
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:40 PM
Nov 2012

At least not THIS time. We need to get national laws to change this.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
12. In the Anonymous thread, he/she said the cheating was going to be reversed. I think I believe it.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:15 PM
Nov 2012

eridani

(51,907 posts)
17. Not sure about that. The fact that they didn't know for sure about Anonymous capabilities--
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:10 AM
Nov 2012

--might well have been a discouraging factor, though.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
7. What's there to hide?
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:47 PM
Nov 2012

If it's only pride, is not being transparent worth the lack of trust it creates?
Non-transparency is not worth distrust.

If it's not pride, then they are hiding something.

Either way, it's incorrect management of our right to vote.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
8. Hmmmm let's see
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:47 PM
Nov 2012

Alabama - Beth Chapman, Republican
Florida - Ken Detzner, Republican
Iowa - Matt Schultz, Republican
Michigan - Ruth Johnson, Republican
Mississippi - Delbert Hosemann, Republican
Ohio - Jon Husted, Republican
Pennsylvania - Carol Aichele, Republican
Texas - Hope Andrade, Republican
Alaska - Mead Treadwell, Lt. Governor AND Republican: The Lt. Governors in Alaska is the head of division of elections.
Tennessee - Tre Hargett, Republican

You can't make this stuff up!

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
29. Thanks for doing that - I was just about to.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:51 PM
Nov 2012

My instincts where right with you - where there's smoke, there's a Republican.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
9. HOW ABOUT 8 HOUR LONG LINES IN POOR DISTRICTS OF RED STATES?
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:03 PM
Nov 2012

Sheesh! Talking about voter suppression!!

icarusxat

(403 posts)
10. I asked for a paper ballot in Utah
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:04 PM
Nov 2012

The poll workers gathered and in loud voices asked each other if I had been belligerent. Then they announced my wife's name along with mine in voices audible to everyone in the voting center asking why I had asked for a provisional ballot...
weird

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
13. Let's Get Rid Of Corporately Owned Voting Machines
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:16 PM
Nov 2012

Like Diebold and ES&S !! Go back to readable paper ballots with a paper copy.

LynnTheDem

(21,368 posts)
18. The hypocrisy lives on.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:23 AM
Nov 2012

Funny how denying international election observers is something the rightwingnuttery like to use as a war cry against other nations...

 

ROBROX

(392 posts)
26. THE LIST OF STATES SEEM LIKE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:59 PM
Nov 2012

I see democratic states failed to make the list of states requiring observers. I remember one time I was in Arkansas restaurant ordering breakfast. I asked for sour dough toast and the whole restaurant was totally quit until I asked for whole wheat toast. I forgot I was in white bread country.

I have been in many southern states. Generally the people are great. The problem is that culturally there are some who are stuck in their dark age and refuse to enter the post slavery era. Someday I may return to the south, but my California accent may be a problem.

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