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brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 11:32 AM Sep 2022

Ginni Thomas pressed Wisconsin lawmakers to overturn Biden's 2020 victory

Source: Washington Post

Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, the conservative activist and wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, pressed lawmakers to overturn Joe Biden’s 2020 victory not only in Arizona, as previously reported, but also in a second battleground state, Wisconsin, according to emails obtained under state public-records law.

The Washington Post reported this year that Ginni Thomas emailed 29 Arizona state lawmakers, some of them twice, in November and December 2020. She urged them to set aside Biden’s popular-vote victory and “choose” their own presidential electors, despite the fact that the responsibility for choosing electors rests with voters under Arizona state law.

The new emails show that Thomas also messaged two Republican lawmakers in Wisconsin: state Sen. Kathy Bernier, then chair of the Senate elections committee, and state Rep. Gary Tauchen. Bernier and Tauchen received the email at 10:47 a.m. on Nov. 9, virtually the same time the Arizona lawmakers received a verbatim copy of the message from Thomas. The Bernier email was obtained by The Post, and the Tauchen email was obtained by the watchdog group Documented and provided to The Post.


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2022/09/01/ginni-thomas-wisconsin-bernier-tauchen/
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Ginni Thomas pressed Wisconsin lawmakers to overturn Biden's 2020 victory (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2022 OP
... Lucinda Sep 2022 #1
WHY was the wide of a sitting SCOTUS Judge communicating with lawmakers over a vote outcome? BadGimp Sep 2022 #2
Double wide, in my opinion. Meadowoak Sep 2022 #6
Ok, I can't stop laughing Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #7
Seems factual actually. twodogsbarking Sep 2022 #11
LOL geardaddy Sep 2022 #21
Because GQP cultist want to restore TFG to power so that THEY can first get pardons..... usaf-vet Sep 2022 #9
Question should be why isn't she is jail? onetexan Sep 2022 #16
Exactly. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #29
She claims it's her political freedom to get others to test out the 12th Amendment. ancianita Sep 2022 #17
A: Because she knew she could, without any real consequences. NullTuples Sep 2022 #33
She needs a subpeona and cellmate. n/t TeamProg Sep 2022 #3
Indeedy! 👍 Duppers Sep 2022 #13
Please no cellmate jmowreader Sep 2022 #24
We already know she's been in Trump's pocket for awhile. sakabatou Sep 2022 #4
There will be no consequences. maxsolomon Sep 2022 #5
That's so true, she could be a mass murderer and that would be fine with the court Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #10
Yeah, not hopeful for justice krkaufman Sep 2022 #27
and Clarence will insist he agingdem Sep 2022 #8
You Can Bet More Lawmakers Got This Email From Ginni Thomas DallasNE Sep 2022 #12
My thoughts also. Maybe have some hearings under oath. erronis Sep 2022 #19
Lock her up. n/t area51 Sep 2022 #14
Props to Sen. Kathy Bernie, she's had a falling out with the Republican Party here... Ellipsis Sep 2022 #15
'You DO know who my husband is, right?' dchill Sep 2022 #18
This is all 100% based on religious desires kwolf68 Sep 2022 #20
OK...devil's advocate here. progressoid Sep 2022 #22
Depends on proving beyond a reasonable doubt that they agreed to commit a crime. Marcuse Sep 2022 #23
That seems unlikely. IMHO. progressoid Sep 2022 #30
Lone nut vs part of conspiracy krkaufman Sep 2022 #28
That too seems unlikely in my humble opinion. progressoid Sep 2022 #31
STILL calling her/them 'conservative,' a SERIOUS MISSTATEMENT, elleng Sep 2022 #25
Ginni Thomas is another bloated tick who qualifies as a nasty sack of shit. . . . BigDemVoter Sep 2022 #26
Hi Ho, Mrs. Long Dong Silver... Blue Owl Sep 2022 #32

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
9. Because GQP cultist want to restore TFG to power so that THEY can first get pardons.....
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 12:18 PM
Sep 2022

.... then secondly, stay on the gravy train (grifting) for self-enrichment.

But they all know that without presidential pardons, they are facing their own indictments, loss of law licenses, and prison time.

They know they have stepped over the line(s) and there is no way back without pardons.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
17. She claims it's her political freedom to get others to test out the 12th Amendment.
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 01:16 PM
Sep 2022

She knew Ken Klukowski, who just 'dropped' into the DOJ to join with Eastman and Clarke to pressure Pence to accept fake electors on Jan 6.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
33. A: Because she knew she could, without any real consequences.
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 08:19 PM
Sep 2022

The Republican Party over the years has become that segment of humanity that only does "the right thing" when they are constrained by consequences. That's who Trump appealed to in voters and supporters, and that's who the Party appealed to as it grew into what it is now.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
24. Please no cellmate
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 01:47 PM
Sep 2022

You stick a cultist in a cell with a non-cultist, you wind up with two cultists.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
5. There will be no consequences.
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 11:48 AM
Sep 2022

She was spamming them, basically. Multiple RWNJ activists were doing the same 24/7. The pressure campaign was everywhere, and it had not a scintilla of substance.

She is not bound by any ethical obligation related to Clarence Thomas.

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
10. That's so true, she could be a mass murderer and that would be fine with the court
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 12:18 PM
Sep 2022

But...... Clarence has responsibility for her.

He is responsible for reporting on all her income. But he failed to even do that. He failed to do that for many years in violation of federal law.

Normal people would be fired and prosecuted......not Clarance.

krkaufman

(13,435 posts)
27. Yeah, not hopeful for justice
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 02:21 PM
Sep 2022

I don’t think there would even be anything wrong with an individual nut sending such communications to legislators. But where things would get sticky is if it were done in consultation with anyone else, especially if the chain of contacts led back to anyone linked to the Trump admin or campaign. At that point, it’s not just some lone nut blasting out their conspiracy theories but a part of a larger conspiracy to overturn an election.

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
8. and Clarence will insist he
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 12:09 PM
Sep 2022

had no idea his wife, the women he shares/shared a bed with for 35 years, was plotting to overthrow the government of the United States...he's shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED!!!!...ya, that's it...

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
12. You Can Bet More Lawmakers Got This Email From Ginni Thomas
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 12:31 PM
Sep 2022

Perhaps dozens more and in still more states - say Georgia, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
19. My thoughts also. Maybe have some hearings under oath.
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 01:24 PM
Sep 2022

Altho having hearings, which used to catch the public's attention, are about as commonplace as some new space launch. The public wants more titillation. How about hearings where the defendants all need to present themselves in the nude? No cover-up allowed.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
15. Props to Sen. Kathy Bernie, she's had a falling out with the Republican Party here...
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 12:55 PM
Sep 2022

because she wouldn't compromise her ethics on the 2020 election. She's not running for reelection either. She got her share of harassment. She'll probably get more now.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
20. This is all 100% based on religious desires
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 01:32 PM
Sep 2022

To the Holy Crusaders, there is NOTHING to stand in their way to install Jesus as sole ruler over all laws of our land. This isn't the crusades or the inquisition, but it's the same agenda, overpower and install theocracy. These people wouldn't care one iota if every non Christian was slaughtered by the masses, rest assured overthrowing Democracy is very much on their "not a big deal" meter. These people are deranged and dangerous. AND they have the Court.

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
22. OK...devil's advocate here.
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 01:40 PM
Sep 2022

Is it a crime to email them to commit a crime?

I know she's a horrible person and likely has her dirty hands in Jan 6th. BUT is this particular incident a crime?

krkaufman

(13,435 posts)
28. Lone nut vs part of conspiracy
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 02:24 PM
Sep 2022

I’d think it depends on the ability to demonstrate that she wasn’t just some lone nut blasting out her theories, but was actually one part of a broader conspiracy to overturn the election.

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