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Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,229 posts)
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 11:43 AM Sep 2022

'Substantial victory' for Kyiv as Russian front crumbles near Kharkiv

Source: Reuters

KYIV, Sept 9 (Reuters) - Ukrainian forces were charging through an expanding area of previously Russian-held territory in the east on Friday after bursting through the frontline in a surprise breakthrough that could mark a major turning point in the war.

After keeping silent for a day, Moscow effectively acknowledged that a section of its frontline had crumbled southeast of Ukraine's second largest city Kharkiv.

"The very fact of a breach of our defences is already a substantial victory for the Ukrainian armed forces," the head of the Moscow-installed administration for occupied areas in Kharkiv province, Vitaly Ganchev, said on Russian state TV.

Ganchev later said his administration was trying to evacuate civilians from cities including Izium, Russia's main stronghold and logistics base in the province near the front in the east.

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/blinken-visits-ukraine-pivotal-moment-kyiv-claims-gains-2022-09-08/

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'Substantial victory' for Kyiv as Russian front crumbles near Kharkiv (Original Post) Tom Yossarian Joad Sep 2022 OP
Looks like Ukraine captured a Russian 3-star too Mysterian Sep 2022 #1
Slava Ukraina! Wicked Blue Sep 2022 #2
Kicking some serious ass underpants Sep 2022 #3
Uh oh, methinks Vitaly should watch his back. nt grumpyduck Sep 2022 #4
And stay out of tall buildings. KS Toronado Sep 2022 #12
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2022 #5
good news samsingh Sep 2022 #6
Outstanding news RAB910 Sep 2022 #7
And may every single Russian who is still fighting die, get behind the Russian troops and encirlce.. Botany Sep 2022 #8
Love this picture - thank you for posting. iluvtennis Sep 2022 #11
That was 2 days ago in Kharkiv Botany Sep 2022 #13
Thanks @Botany. n/t iluvtennis Sep 2022 #21
What a great photo! Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #17
+1 c-rational Sep 2022 #22
Spot on!! K&R onetexan Sep 2022 #23
I hope Ukraine kicks Russia not only out of the Donetsk region but out of Crimea also. Lonestarblue Sep 2022 #9
Crimea is in the plans from what i've read onetexan Sep 2022 #24
Ukrainians still think of Crimea as part of their nation...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #26
Awesom news! iluvtennis Sep 2022 #10
I was hoping for... 2naSalit Sep 2022 #14
Slava Ukraine! PortTack Sep 2022 #15
Slava Ukraini! Thank you for the update. niyad Sep 2022 #16
By evacuate relayerbob Sep 2022 #18
There are 2 huge counteroffensives going on Warpy Sep 2022 #19
Russia's actions also got Sweden and Finland to join NATO Kaleva Sep 2022 #30
"....Ganchev later said his administration was trying to evacuate civilians from cities..." yonder Sep 2022 #20
It's my understanding that blue-wave Sep 2022 #25
Yes, the ISW described the Kharkiv offensive as "opportunistic, yet highly effective." GregariousGroundhog Sep 2022 #28
No negotiations with Russia multigraincracker Sep 2022 #27
I am more inclined to demand the borders from 2014. nt Gore1FL Sep 2022 #33
Even better, and multigraincracker Sep 2022 #34
+1 -K&R!! onetexan Sep 2022 #35
🌻🇺🇦🌻TY for this good news! electric_blue68 Sep 2022 #29
Wouldn't want to be a Russian soldier in that salient that just got created Recursion Sep 2022 #31
I'm sure they are aware of the risk of a salient usajumpedtheshark Sep 2022 #32
Change the Front Roy Rolling Sep 2022 #36
Slava Ukrayini! sakabatou Sep 2022 #37
Maybe cannabis_flower Sep 2022 #38

Mysterian

(4,587 posts)
1. Looks like Ukraine captured a Russian 3-star too
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 11:47 AM
Sep 2022

We need to see regime change in Russia to end this war quickly.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
8. And may every single Russian who is still fighting die, get behind the Russian troops and encirlce..
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:20 PM
Sep 2022

Last edited Sat Sep 10, 2022, 01:55 PM - Edit history (2)

.... them, and get those Swedish attack jets into the action too. Let the Russians know they have 3 choices:

Walk towards the Ukrainian troops with their hands up and surrender. (after they shoot their senior officers if possible)

Keep fighting and die.

Go back to Russia, tell the people the truth and kill Putin in a new Russian revolution. 25% of Russians do not have
indoor plumbing.




Botany

(70,501 posts)
13. That was 2 days ago in Kharkiv
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:31 PM
Sep 2022

You might kill a lot of Ukrainians but you are never going to beat them.

Look @ the words of their anthem in my sig line.

Lonestarblue

(9,984 posts)
9. I hope Ukraine kicks Russia not only out of the Donetsk region but out of Crimea also.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:26 PM
Sep 2022

Eventually Moldova may need help kicking out the 2500 or so troops Putin stationed there to force a separatist movement. It would be great to see them sink a few more ships in the Black Sea as well. After all the death and destruction, I want Putin to come out of this as a disgraced and deposed leader.

onetexan

(13,040 posts)
24. Crimea is in the plans from what i've read
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 01:47 PM
Sep 2022

Sorry dont have the link to post but you can google it. Read this morning some EU general mentioned some time next year he expects crimea to be under UKR control.

PortTack

(32,762 posts)
15. Slava Ukraine!
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:35 PM
Sep 2022

If you are looking for a way to help

Ukraine24.org. They have raised over 3 million since it’s inception 3 months ago

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
19. There are 2 huge counteroffensives going on
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:44 PM
Sep 2022

One is in the northeast, around Kharkiv and the other in the south, aimed at shoving them back onto Crimea. From there, I'm sure they'll be given a choice: surrender or start swimming.

45,000 might be a conservative number, as appalling as it is, nearly equaling the number of US dead in the long, drawn out Vietnam War. Russia has not published any numbers since March and now they're throwing recruits with minimal training at the front and have done so for a couple of months, swelling the number of dead without gaining any advantage.

I still see this as Ukraine's war of independence. All Russia will gain is a hostile neighbor and national antipathy in that region tends not to die.

yonder

(9,664 posts)
20. "....Ganchev later said his administration was trying to evacuate civilians from cities..."
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:45 PM
Sep 2022

Is that Putin-speak for kidnapping innocent Ukrainian civilians to filtration camps with eventual forced settlement, or much worse, into God-knows-where Russia?

blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
25. It's my understanding that
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 01:47 PM
Sep 2022

the Ukrainians observed the Russians pulling troops from the east to reinforce the southern (Kherson) front. Well, the Ukrainians of course took advantage of the situation and now the Russian eastern front appears to be collapsing.

Slava Ukraini!!

GregariousGroundhog

(7,521 posts)
28. Yes, the ISW described the Kharkiv offensive as "opportunistic, yet highly effective."
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 02:46 PM
Sep 2022

The Institute for the Study of War mentioned that Ukraine has driven 40-50 km through Russia's defensive lines and is expected to capture Kupyansk within the next 72 hours. That would be a significant disruption to Russian supply lines to Izium, which run south from Belarus.

I suspect Russia left their defensive lines largely manned by poorly motivated conscripts from the Luhansk and Donetsk People's Repubics, and the result is about as we would expect.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
31. Wouldn't want to be a Russian soldier in that salient that just got created
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:23 PM
Sep 2022

If they manage to fully encircle that force, that could be huge.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
38. Maybe
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 08:00 AM
Sep 2022

This is starting to look like a replay of Japan-Russia 1904

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War


Russia went to war with Japan expecting for a quick victory and were humiliatingly defeated.

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