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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,242 posts)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 12:33 PM Sep 2022

Putin grants Russian citizenship to US whistleblower Edward Snowden

Source: Guardian

President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on Monday granting Russian citizenship to the former US intelligence contractor Edward Snowden.

Snowden, 39, fled the United States and was given asylum in Russia after leaking secret files in 2013 that revealed vast domestic and international surveillance operations carried out by the US National Security Agency, where he was a contractor.

US authorities have for years wanted Snowden returned to the US to face a criminal trial on espionage charges.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/26/putin-grants-russian-citizenship-to-us-whistleblower-edward-snowden?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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Putin grants Russian citizenship to US whistleblower Edward Snowden (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 OP
Here is your draft notice greblach Sep 2022 #1
That would make me smile LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #2
Yes, perhaps Snowden will need an asylum Zambero Sep 2022 #4
that would be the funniest thing that ever happened. prodigitalson Sep 2022 #5
Thank you for LOL! Lulu KC Sep 2022 #9
So, "Neener, neener, neener!" to the US? Or maybe a message to Traitor Trump: "The door's open!" LaMouffette Sep 2022 #3
They Can Have Him Deep State Witch Sep 2022 #6
So will he get drafted and sent to the front lines? vlyons Sep 2022 #7
Someone is gonna get drafted!!! Beastly Boy Sep 2022 #8
I am willing to wager that this was granted to him partly cstanleytech Sep 2022 #10
Ouch!!! That is going to hurt, he is of recruiting age...I think Snowden may want to come home. Escurumbele Sep 2022 #11
If He Was TRULY A Whistleblower... GB_RN Sep 2022 #12
+1 SunSeeker Sep 2022 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Polybius Sep 2022 #28
Welcome Comrade ! Gilbert Moore Sep 2022 #13
Report to the front lines in Ukraine comrade IronLionZion Sep 2022 #14
He's probably wishing that he'd picked Cuba right about now. LudwigPastorius Sep 2022 #15
Snowden didn't "pick" Russia. PhylliPretzel Sep 2022 #18
So it's all Kerry's fault? ShazzieB Sep 2022 #20
The US revoked Snowden's passport. John Kerry was SOS , don't know if he personally Autumn Sep 2022 #25
Whenever a suspect is considered a "flight risk", BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 #26
Now send him to fight in Ukraine. ZonkerHarris Sep 2022 #16
They can have his sorry ass. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2022 #17
People older than him are being drafted fanfanois Sep 2022 #19
And will now conscript him for the front lines. malthaussen Sep 2022 #22
Someday Russia will be granting citizenship to comrade trump olddad65 Sep 2022 #23
I'm sure Putin did it out of the goodness of his heart Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2022 #24
He won't necessarily be drafted but if he turns down Wonder Why Sep 2022 #27
And the Putin apologists will all say the U.S. caused him to kill himself rpannier Sep 2022 #29

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
4. Yes, perhaps Snowden will need an asylum
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 12:39 PM
Sep 2022

If he survives, given that he meets all of Putin's conscription qualifications. Ah, for the glory of Mother Russia. Now get in the back of that truck, MF!

prodigitalson

(2,422 posts)
5. that would be the funniest thing that ever happened.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 12:46 PM
Sep 2022

not entirely impossible

a male russian citizen of his age

LaMouffette

(2,030 posts)
3. So, "Neener, neener, neener!" to the US? Or maybe a message to Traitor Trump: "The door's open!"
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 12:38 PM
Sep 2022

"And when you come to 'visit,' don't forget to bring copies of all those top secret documents you stole."

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
10. I am willing to wager that this was granted to him partly
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 01:16 PM
Sep 2022

for some classified Intel that Snowden had been holding onto as insurance.
Especially if it looked like Russia might send him back to the US as part of a deal for reducing or removing the sanctions that the US has imposed.

Escurumbele

(3,392 posts)
11. Ouch!!! That is going to hurt, he is of recruiting age...I think Snowden may want to come home.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 01:21 PM
Sep 2022

Putin is so desperate for soldiers that suddenly he comes up with this idea?

GB_RN

(2,355 posts)
12. If He Was TRULY A Whistleblower...
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 01:31 PM
Sep 2022

He would have stayed here and faced the music, like Reality Winner and Chelsea Manning - and maybe mounting a whistleblower defense. Instead, he fled to China and then Russia with a laptop full of US Government secrets, and allowed their intelligence agencies to access it and steal our information.

He didn’t release the information he did out of any sense of patriotism or altruism. He was a fucking spy, and merely used that information release to try and make himself look better.

Just my opinion. Take it for what it’s worth.

Response to GB_RN (Reply #12)

Gilbert Moore

(218 posts)
13. Welcome Comrade !
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 01:48 PM
Sep 2022

Snowden: I didn't know new citizens got a free set of clothes ?

Boris: Your Army uniform comrade. It will look stunning in our Ukraine !

PhylliPretzel

(140 posts)
18. Snowden didn't "pick" Russia.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:19 PM
Sep 2022

He was in the Moscow airport, awaiting a flight to continue his journey to Ecuador, when then Secretary of State John Kerry cancelled his passport. Thus Kerry is responsible for Snowden being stranded in Russia. He spent many days in the airport before he was granted asylum.
Please review the history of his whistleblower who let us know that our government was lying to us.

Autumn

(45,084 posts)
25. The US revoked Snowden's passport. John Kerry was SOS , don't know if he personally
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:58 PM
Sep 2022

signed on to it.

https://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/24/kerry-defends-u-s-attempts-to-get-snowden-back/

The United States has been waging a multi-country diplomatic effort to ensure Edward Snowden is returned to American authorities to face espionage charges, Secretary of State John Kerry asserted in an interview with CNN Monday.

Snowden, who admittedly leaked top secret information about government surveillance programs, left Hong Kong on Sunday and has thus far avoided U.S. extradition efforts. The United States has revoked his passport and encouraged countries to deny him asylum.

Asked how a man wanted on espionage charges was able to travel freely from Hong Kong to Russia, Kerry defended the U.S. government's role in trying to apprehend Snowden. He noted Snowden's passport was revoked as soon as the government's complaint against him was unsealed last week – before Snowden departed Hong Kong.

"We don't know what authorities allowed him to leave under those circumstances," Kerry told CNN foreign affairs reporter Elise Labott. "We obviously have to find out from the Chinese what happened. We hope that the Russians will recognize the request of the United States."

International cooperation from Hong Kong, Russia, and other countries is essential in upholding "the rule of law," Kerry added.


BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
26. Whenever a suspect is considered a "flight risk",
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 08:12 PM
Sep 2022

and if they are under arrest or a warrant has been issued for arrest, the passport (if that person has one) is often taken.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/legal-matters/law-enforcement.html



Passport Information for Law Enforcement


(snip)


Passport Restrictive Actions and Information

(snip)

A federal or state law enforcement agency may also request the revocation a passport for the regulatory grounds under 22 CFR 51.60-65. When the Department revokes a U.S. passport, revocation information is shared through various databases accessible by law enforcement and various border agencies around the world to prevent persons from traveling on revoked passports. A request for a passport revocation must be in writing on official letterhead (delivered or faxed to Adjudication at the address below) and include the subject’s name, including aliases, date and place of birth, social security number, known previous passport numbers, last known address, any other biodata including of identity documents and photographs of the subject, copies of any criminal court orders or valid arrest warrants, and appropriate contact information of the requesting law enforcement officer and his/her supervisor. The public may NOT request passport revocation.

When a subject is apprehended and has a passport, the passport may be retained by the law enforcement agency for evidentiary purposes (e.g., to prevent flight). If the defendant is found guilty and sentenced to a term of imprisonment and/or probation under conditions prohibiting departure from the United States without authorization, should forward the defendant’s U.S. passport to Passport’s Office of Adjudication for appropriate disposition and provide the Office of Adjudication information concerning the date and terms of the sentencing order. However, when it is no longer needed for the law enforcement purpose and the person is still in custody or subject to a bond or parole, the passport must be returned to the U.S. Department of State, Office of Adjudication (address below).


U.S. Department of State
CA/PPT/S/A
44132 Mercure Cir
PO Box 1243
Sterling, VA 20166-1243

Please notify Passport Services when a subject is apprehended, when the warrant is quashed or when passport action is no longer needed. If a lookout is allowed to remain in the passport system after these events, it will result in inconvenience.

For more information on how to return a passport based on the above circumstance, please contact the Office of Adjudication by telephone at 202-485-6400 or by fax at 202-485-6496.

(snip)


Here is a link to 22 CFR 51.60-65


Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
17. They can have his sorry ass. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:13 PM
Sep 2022

Let's hope this makes him a prime candidate for the front lines.

Wonder Why

(3,196 posts)
27. He won't necessarily be drafted but if he turns down
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 08:34 PM
Sep 2022

the offer of "Defender of the Non-Invasion", he'll be offered a free apartment in a high rise building with windows that open.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
29. And the Putin apologists will all say the U.S. caused him to kill himself
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 04:09 AM
Sep 2022

Because that's how the Blame America First crowd works

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