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speak easy

(9,339 posts)
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 12:48 PM Oct 2022

Putin sacks second commander in a week after losses in 'annexed' Kherson

Source: The Telegraph

Russia has sacked its second general in a week after humiliating losses in the southern region of Kherson.

Colonel-General Alexander Chaiko, Commander of the Eastern Military District, was fired in the latest reshuffle of the Kremlin's top brass, Russian media reports.

On Monday it was reported the Western military district commander, Colonel-General Alexander Zhuravlyov, had been replaced after Kyiv recaptured the strategic hub of Lyman in north eastern Donetsk region.

Read more: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/10/07/ukraine-news-latest-advances-war-russia-nuclear-putin/



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Putin sacks second commander in a week after losses in 'annexed' Kherson (Original Post) speak easy Oct 2022 OP
Nothing is ever going to be Putin's fault Warpy Oct 2022 #1
Moscow does not believe in tears peppertree Oct 2022 #9
They might not believe in tears, but they understand anger Warpy Oct 2022 #10
How Trumpian of them peppertree Oct 2022 #14
Putin also rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic, blaming the arrangements for the rising Ray Bruns Oct 2022 #2
LOL! n/t EndlessWire Oct 2022 #6
Total combat losses of the enemy from Feb 24 to Oct 7: LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #3
Even if the true number is HALF that, its a massive defeat. oldsoftie Oct 2022 #4
Shades of Adolf Hitler. Aristus Oct 2022 #5
Putin would like to kill the generals but he can't. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #15
I was thinking the same thing. wnylib Oct 2022 #21
Sacking commanders won't fix it. EndlessWire Oct 2022 #7
Insane dictator will be promoting corporals to general soon Mysterian Oct 2022 #8
Insane! WmChris Oct 2022 #11
This is the humane side of Putin. Firing generals ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2022 #12
We can call that Grimelle Oct 2022 #13
Putin knows he is fucked... BigmanPigman Oct 2022 #16
Pooty-Poot-Poot thought that invading Ukraine would be a romp Vogon_Glory Oct 2022 #18
All Putin needed to do was read Russian History. Who really helped defeat Hitler when Hiter made a Stuart G Oct 2022 #20
He probably did and made the wrong conclusions Vogon_Glory Oct 2022 #22
When Putin 'sacks' you ToxMarz Oct 2022 #17
The remaining generals now know who the real enemy is. Stuart G Oct 2022 #19
K&R ck4829 Oct 2022 #23

Warpy

(111,395 posts)
1. Nothing is ever going to be Putin's fault
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 12:55 PM
Oct 2022

He's always going to find somebody to blame and fire. Never mind this was never a winnable war.

No wonder he liked TFG so much, vultures of a feather...

peppertree

(21,692 posts)
9. Moscow does not believe in tears
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 03:11 PM
Oct 2022

So naturally, they give themselves more to cry about every day.

No wonder Cheeto gravitated towards them so much. Same kind of inane bull-headedness.

Warpy

(111,395 posts)
10. They might not believe in tears, but they understand anger
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 03:27 PM
Oct 2022

and are allowing the conduct of the war to be questioned, although not the war, itself. Oh, and they still can't call it a war, no matter how many people they've lost on the battlefield. Russians are screaming at the generals, but not Putin, which is its aim.

The young continue to mass at the borders or show up falling down, pee on themselves drunk at conscription camps.. They know this war is dead wrong and Putin is nuts.

Ray Bruns

(4,120 posts)
2. Putin also rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic, blaming the arrangements for the rising
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 12:59 PM
Oct 2022

Water level.

oldsoftie

(12,637 posts)
4. Even if the true number is HALF that, its a massive defeat.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 01:35 PM
Oct 2022

I'd prefer to believe they are accurate as is.

Aristus

(66,481 posts)
5. Shades of Adolf Hitler.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 01:43 PM
Oct 2022

Firing general after general until one of them agrees to "command" the phantom armies Hitler keeps dreaming up.

Irish_Dem

(47,550 posts)
15. Putin would like to kill the generals but he can't.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 05:11 PM
Oct 2022

He sent a slew of his generals to the front line where they were killed.
And he has fired some as well.

If he starts poisoning them or tossing them out of windows, the remaining generals will flee the country.
And then Putin is more screwed than he already is.

Or the generals will poison Putin.

wnylib

(21,682 posts)
21. I was thinking the same thing.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 05:44 AM
Oct 2022

The worse things hot for Germany, the more Hitler blamed his officers and sacked them. He took over directly supervising military operations himself, which I believe Putin has recently done, too.

Let's hope that the parallels continue right down to the end.

EndlessWire

(6,573 posts)
7. Sacking commanders won't fix it.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 02:13 PM
Oct 2022

Generals all over Russia are ducking his calls...wait, there's a conscript over there who's willing to take the job! Within one week he'll surrender the entire army.

Mysterian

(4,597 posts)
8. Insane dictator will be promoting corporals to general soon
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 02:24 PM
Oct 2022

How much longer will the Russian people allow the madman's reign of terror continue?

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,375 posts)
12. This is the humane side of Putin. Firing generals ...
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 04:07 PM
Oct 2022

... is far kinder than tossing them from fifth-floor windows, or putting polonium in their tea.

BigmanPigman

(51,644 posts)
16. Putin knows he is fucked...
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 05:50 PM
Oct 2022

He thought that attacking another country would be seen by his pals as a way to control his population. Big applause!!!

Nope, especially since he threatened the use of nuclear bombs over something like this is a "no no" . All of the dictators who are Putin's fans are not so sure about using nuclear bombs in this scenario. NONE of Putin's dudes are going to support him in such an endeavor. Michael McFaul and Alexander Vindman said the same thing on Nicole's show today.

Vogon_Glory

(9,133 posts)
18. Pooty-Poot-Poot thought that invading Ukraine would be a romp
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:11 PM
Oct 2022

And that the Russian Army would stomp them as thoroughly as they did in 2014. He couldn’t imagine the Ukrainians spending the years between then and February overhauling their military and learning how to wage war. That the Ukrainians did: transforming what a lot of people thought of as a rag-tail joke into an outfit that could put up a fight. And did.

I was someone else who was surprised. After seeing the better-equipped post-invasion Iraqi army fold like a tent facing ISIS and the Afghan National Army collapsing against the vengeful Taliban, I thought that the Russians would roll across all of Ukraine in less than 6 weeks. Instead I learned that my expectations were incredibly wrong.

Stuart G

(38,453 posts)
20. All Putin needed to do was read Russian History. Who really helped defeat Hitler when Hiter made a
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 10:21 PM
Oct 2022
very serious error by invading a country on June 22, 1941......................

Do You suppose Putin knows about that invasion? And what it did it do to Hitler's Army? You and I know
what happened to Germany's Army because of that invasion. And what losses the invasion caused to the
country that Hitler invaded. (Do you know what country that is?)



I suspect Putin does know that one, but learned nothing by knowing about it.

(that is by invading a country that fights the invasion with everything and anything it has, And in the end, the
country invaded, defeats the aggressor)

Vogon_Glory

(9,133 posts)
22. He probably did and made the wrong conclusions
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 10:01 AM
Oct 2022

The Russians had been traumatized by Stalin for years before the Hitler invasion while the Ukrainians were so brutalized by the USSR (purges, famines, etc) that many of them initially greeted the Nazis as liberators.

Pooty probably ignored the fact that this time around the Ukrainians had governed themselves for three decades and had a much better idea as to who their enemies were than their traumatized forebears did in 1941.

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