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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:17 PM Jan 2023

McCarthy Proposes Gutting Office of Congressional Ethics in Bid for Speaker

Source: TIME

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy spent the first two days of the new year trying to shore up GOP support for his bid to be Speaker by releasing a series of proposals aimed at winning over hard-right detractors who stand to torpedo his ascension.

The part of his proposed changes to House rules that drew the most attention was allowing just five House members to call for a vote at any time on ousting the Speaker; that would render McCarthy beholden to the most extreme members of his caucus, should he get on their wrong side. But buried in the text was another provision that could be highly consequential for the new Congress being sworn in on Tuesday: language that would effectively gut the Office of Congressional Ethics (OCE), as the independent panel faces pressure to investigate lawmakers who participated in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

Most significantly, McCarthy’s proposal would require OCE to hire its staff for the 118th Congress within 30 days of the resolution’s adoption, a requirement that sources familiar with the process tell TIME would make it exceedingly difficult for the office to have the resources it needs to conduct its investigations, given how long it takes to hire candidates for roles in the federal government. The proposal would also block OCE from hiring new employees over the next two years if someone leaves their position, sources say.

“Republicans get to take control of the House, and on their first day in Congress, they are not trying to take a hammer to the OCE—they’re being a little smarter about it—but they’re taking a scalpel to it,” a Hill source familiar with the ethics process tells TIME.

Read more: https://time.com/6243981/mccarthy-proposes-gutting-office-of-congressional-ethics-in-bid-for-speaker/

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McCarthy Proposes Gutting Office of Congressional Ethics in Bid for Speaker (Original Post) TomCADem Jan 2023 OP
He's pathetic Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #1
This mahina Jan 2023 #17
Mass consciousness of guilt? dchill Jan 2023 #2
It would appear so, but if they submit to no ethics Captain Zero Jan 2023 #4
Not only do they HAVE no ethics, they don't understand them. dchill Jan 2023 #6
Idk... I think they Do Understand but Ignore them more often than not. Maybe always? F ' em! electric_blue68 Jan 2023 #10
Right Rebl2 Jan 2023 #27
He doesn't qualify for Speaker. Nor does he deserve it. Deuxcents Jan 2023 #3
Can anyone think of a reason that gutting the OCE would be a winning move for Gaugamela Jan 2023 #5
NO TigressDem Jan 2023 #7
Ethics really gets in the way of crimes IronLionZion Jan 2023 #8
This is why the Congressional members taking part or giving aid to the Bluethroughu Jan 2023 #9
Of course.. ***** has NO ethics Cha Jan 2023 #11
Because ethics get in the way of Repuke unethical dealing and wheeling sakabatou Jan 2023 #12
"We don't need no stinkin' ethics rules!" nt Ilsa Jan 2023 #13
Yes, that would make a lot of sense. Turbineguy Jan 2023 #14
They won't need to remove his backbone. ShazzieB Jan 2023 #24
These losers tried to overthrow their own government. They have no ethics. Initech Jan 2023 #15
Who is he dancing for? mahina Jan 2023 #16
I was hoping this was Borowitz. SergeStorms Jan 2023 #18
Fine, then go straight to indictments. Bev54 Jan 2023 #19
I'm guessing none of these Neanderthals Mr.Bill Jan 2023 #20
Not to suggest madamesilverspurs Jan 2023 #21
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jan 2023 #22
Hell, they got rid of ethics on The Supreme Court and White House, why not go for Congress, too? Midnight Writer Jan 2023 #23
"they are not trying to take a hammer to the OCE..they're taking a scalpel to it," BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #25
Can you get more obvious? no_hypocrisy Jan 2023 #26
The Dems should make tons of noise about the fact that Repughs hate ethics. ificandream Jan 2023 #28
I'm so sick of these assholes newdayneeded Jan 2023 #29
LOL! Just the next logical step in the downward progression of the GOP. Martin68 Jan 2023 #30
Kevin, this is shades of trump, but you know that. republianmushroom Jan 2023 #31
First thing 45 did was eliminate the WH Ethics group. Don't need that shit. Vile. Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #32
Because nothing says "law and order" more than defunding those policing the powerful Simeon Salus Jan 2023 #33
This!!☝️ onetexan Jan 2023 #35
What a sleaze ball Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2023 #34

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
4. It would appear so, but if they submit to no ethics
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:28 PM
Jan 2023

for themselves how do we put absolutely ANY credence in their findings on investigations?

Deuxcents

(16,332 posts)
3. He doesn't qualify for Speaker. Nor does he deserve it.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:28 PM
Jan 2023

There are questions about his part on J6 and his slithering like a snake giving away our values and oversight... this is The House of Representatives ! Not a high school class president election.

Gaugamela

(2,496 posts)
5. Can anyone think of a reason that gutting the OCE would be a winning move for
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:29 PM
Jan 2023

MAGA extremists? Seems like a total non sequitur to me . . . .

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
7. NO
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:35 PM
Jan 2023

STOP THE INSANITY!

Certain laws should NOT be up for debate.


This BS that both sides lie so we don't need ethics committees --- really?


Bluethroughu

(5,192 posts)
9. This is why the Congressional members taking part or giving aid to the
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 11:48 PM
Jan 2023

Seditious Conspirators should be indicted and removed immediately. They are not working for the people of the United States, they are working against it. They are traitors.

Turbineguy

(37,367 posts)
14. Yes, that would make a lot of sense.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 12:13 AM
Jan 2023

Maybe they should cut out what's left of his brain while they have that scalpel handy.

Mr.Bill

(24,321 posts)
20. I'm guessing none of these Neanderthals
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 01:30 AM
Jan 2023

fear anything the ethics committee can do anyway. If anything, if they were reprimanded by them, they would use it to raise money.

madamesilverspurs

(15,807 posts)
21. Not to suggest
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 01:32 AM
Jan 2023

that he might be seeking to shelter certain members whose votes he needs, members who might otherwise be taken to task for activities around Jan6, members who would have no qualms demanding such price...


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BumRushDaShow

(129,468 posts)
25. "they are not trying to take a hammer to the OCE..they're taking a scalpel to it,"
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 06:42 AM
Jan 2023

BULLSHIT. Any dicking around with Congressional ethics investigations IS a battering ram given the ones doing the trashing of this are the very insurrectionists who tried to overthrow the government.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
28. The Dems should make tons of noise about the fact that Repughs hate ethics.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 09:57 AM
Jan 2023

Maybe that will convert a few of their lemmings to see that they shouldn't be leading America.

Simeon Salus

(1,144 posts)
33. Because nothing says "law and order" more than defunding those policing the powerful
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 08:57 PM
Jan 2023

Everytime Repugs make it easier to get away with unethical behavior, they demonstrate their basic inability to govern.

They believe in defunding the IRS, the SEC, the FEC. If it's a white collar crime, they want to decriminalize and deregulate it.

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