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Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,229 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 03:01 AM Jan 2023

Women can be prosecuted for taking abortion pills, says Alabama attorney general

Source: Al dot Com

One week after the federal government made it easier to get abortion pills, Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall said Tuesday that women in Alabama who use those pills to end pregnancies could be prosecuted.

That’s despite wording in Alabama’s new Human Life Protection Act that criminalizes abortion providers and prevents its use against the people receiving abortions. Instead, the attorney general’s office said Alabama could rely on an older law, one initially designed to protect children from meth lab fumes.

“The Human Life Protection Act targets abortion providers, exempting women ‘upon whom an abortion is performed or attempted to be performed’ from liability under the law,” Marshall said in an emailed statement. “It does not provide an across-the-board exemption from all criminal laws, including the chemical-endangerment law—which the Alabama Supreme Court has affirmed and reaffirmed protects unborn children.”

The announcement followed changes last week to regulations of two medications commonly prescribed for abortion. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration finalized a change that will allow brick-and-mortar and mail-order pharmacies to dispense mifepristone and misoprostol, two drugs used in more than half of abortions in the United States. /SNIP

Read more: https://www.al.com/news/2023/01/women-can-be-prosecuted-for-taking-abortion-pills-says-alabama-attorney-general.html



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Somebody stop the world I want to get off.
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Women can be prosecuted for taking abortion pills, says Alabama attorney general (Original Post) Tom Yossarian Joad Jan 2023 OP
Commit Tax Fraud, Steal Classified Documents Or Incite An Insurrection Instead SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #1
Of course, 'cause that's what they do in Alabama. elleng Jan 2023 #2
A new campaign gift to Dems. Treat it as such and begin NOW! nt Samrob Jan 2023 #3
The Human Life Protection Act ? YoshidaYui Jan 2023 #4
Unless they intercept mail, or other communications pfitz59 Jan 2023 #5
make it part of a random drug test or pulled over for dui? dembotoz Jan 2023 #16
There's no drug test for mif. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #25
yet dembotoz Jan 2023 #29
Unlikely to be. It's metabolized very quickly. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #30
But what are your thoughts about this. ancianita Jan 2023 #6
Huh? NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2023 #7
The OP is about prosecuting the women, not fed gov agencies, or pharma muriel_volestrangler Jan 2023 #15
Okay. I hear you. And I get that. But I'm thinking there is always more behind prosecuting women, ancianita Jan 2023 #22
If men are so smart they should figure out how to have the babies themselves and leave us alone Walleye Jan 2023 #8
I second the thought!! riversedge Jan 2023 #11
Or good Rebl2 Jan 2023 #20
That of course would be reasonable alternative, if possible Walleye Jan 2023 #21
Don't worry wolfie001 Jan 2023 #9
Men who take medications that inhibit sperm output should also be prosecuted by this law bucolic_frolic Jan 2023 #10
So the OTC med Rebl2 Jan 2023 #23
Guess the busybody party is going to have to create a whole new police force to follow Vinca Jan 2023 #12
"Chemical endangerment" - so pregnant women who drink alcohol or smoke will also be prosecuted. QED. TheRickles Jan 2023 #13
Or industries that spew out fumes and liquids that cause miscarriages and birth defects? ck4829 Jan 2023 #14
Dozens of people who used drugs while pregnant have faced criminal charges. It's likely to increase WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2023 #27
Republicans should just go ahead and declare full Taliban policies instead of their piecemeal Lonestarblue Jan 2023 #17
Why not just put all pregnant women in Maternity Camps until the 'product' is delivered? 70sEraVet Jan 2023 #18
So what if they step across the border and take the pills Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #19
How did we get here? Marthe48 Jan 2023 #24
Like it or not we don't have equal rights. Hope22 Jan 2023 #26
Good luck with that, Mr. Marshall. Martin68 Jan 2023 #28
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2023 #31
Name one Doctor that ever proscribed Meth fumes. Grins Jan 2023 #32
Any state official that tries to enforce this should be arrested and charged Mysterian Jan 2023 #33
Don't ask don't tell gets a new use case? Brainfodder Jan 2023 #34
Prove it is all I can say... raising2moredems Jan 2023 #35
"Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall said Tuesday..." LudwigPastorius Jan 2023 #36
Time to go The Bopper Jan 2023 #37
Here's a thought Marthe48 Jan 2023 #38

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
1. Commit Tax Fraud, Steal Classified Documents Or Incite An Insurrection Instead
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 03:04 AM
Jan 2023

You gotta know what's legal, and what will get you prosecuted.

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
4. The Human Life Protection Act ?
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 04:26 AM
Jan 2023

WtF cAME up with that name? mayabe some dude who was into the Mutual of Omaha's wild Kingdom?
screwy!!

pfitz59

(10,377 posts)
5. Unless they intercept mail, or other communications
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 05:56 AM
Jan 2023

how will the Alabama Talibornagain know? Empty threat...

dembotoz

(16,802 posts)
16. make it part of a random drug test or pulled over for dui?
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:18 AM
Jan 2023

just another box on the checklist of things they look for.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
6. But what are your thoughts about this.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 06:52 AM
Jan 2023

So, is the state AG is making a move against a govt agency? or the corporate pharma business?

Or both? Either could end up in court, and affect what the federal government can do for 51% of the population or big pharma's commerce.

While it looks like two bucks fighting over a doe, it's also about who gets to profit from an oppressive state law, a state or a corporation. States might allow a black market of abortion to exist (for its elites)in the enforcing of their patriarchal class war, while they fight commerce that prevents abortion to begin with. Forcing state interests around reproduction upon both the human and the capitalist.

Next question: will anyone care enough about the women of Koch-head AL to even bother taking this to court?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
15. The OP is about prosecuting the women, not fed gov agencies, or pharma
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:03 AM
Jan 2023

"will anyone care enough about the women of Koch-head AL to even bother taking this to court?"

I echo "huh?" from the previous reply.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
22. Okay. I hear you. And I get that. But I'm thinking there is always more behind prosecuting women,
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 11:08 AM
Jan 2023

not that that in itself isn't evil enough in itself, but that what drives it are other interests, besides controlling women.

bucolic_frolic

(43,153 posts)
10. Men who take medications that inhibit sperm output should also be prosecuted by this law
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 07:55 AM
Jan 2023

Many common meds, some OTC, effect mucous membranes and thus cause 'dry' output.

I mean, equality demands these AG's do something about the drought!

Rebl2

(13,498 posts)
23. So the OTC med
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 11:11 AM
Jan 2023

Would it be allergy medication??? By the way, I doubt they would ever go after men for taking those medications that inhibit sperm output. They would rather go after women and birth control of all kinds.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
12. Guess the busybody party is going to have to create a whole new police force to follow
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 08:42 AM
Jan 2023

women around from morning to night to be sure they're taking nothing other than vitamins and Advil.

ck4829

(35,071 posts)
14. Or industries that spew out fumes and liquids that cause miscarriages and birth defects?
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 09:51 AM
Jan 2023

Something tells me I shouldn't hold my breath for that one.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,334 posts)
27. Dozens of people who used drugs while pregnant have faced criminal charges. It's likely to increase
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:40 PM
Jan 2023

now that Roe is gone.

Lonestarblue

(9,986 posts)
17. Republicans should just go ahead and declare full Taliban policies instead of their piecemeal
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:23 AM
Jan 2023

attempts to control everything women do. After all, why waste money on educating girls when they’ll only be allowed to be baby incubators. Why provide healthcare for women when men have declared that pregnancy is natural and no woman ever has complications requiring a doctor. Why have police and the courts involved in domestic abuse or rape when it’s any male’s right to “correct” his female relatives or to force sex on an unwilling woman. Forced marriage at 13 will take care of those unwed mothers.

70sEraVet

(3,496 posts)
18. Why not just put all pregnant women in Maternity Camps until the 'product' is delivered?
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:28 AM
Jan 2023

Oh, I guess that would be a bit too much like Government-run Health Care!

Farmer-Rick

(10,167 posts)
19. So what if they step across the border and take the pills
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 10:52 AM
Jan 2023

In another state? What if they took the pill a year ago, or five days ago.

Then can they go back to the Taliban controlled state? Or do they have to have the abortion physically in the other state? And how long before the statute of limitations kicks in? Or can you prosecute a poor women (Obviously this won't apply to the Waltons or the filthy rich.) who took a pill 5 years ago?

Abortions are perfectly legal in many other states. You can't keep women from leaving the Taliban. Parts of the country still have American democracy and clean running water too apparently.

Marthe48

(16,949 posts)
24. How did we get here?
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 11:22 AM
Jan 2023

Women aren't incubators. What is wrong with the maniacs who are imposing punishment on people they don't know, never met, won't ever meet, but want to leave a ruinous imprint on their lives, one oppressed woman at a time?

I'm tired of mental illness governing our politics, affecting our personal lives. No one in this world has the right or privilege to abuse others. And this oppression of American women is flat out abuse. Anybody who thinks this oppression is okay is mentally ill and has no business in a leadership position or in a relationship.

Hope22

(1,827 posts)
26. Like it or not we don't have equal rights.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:01 PM
Jan 2023

It is beyond me how the reversal of Roe v Wade did not stop every normal American man in his tracks. Bottom line is they can say they love us but they don’t respect us. The revolution should not have to depend on women and girls. Minus the religious right we don’t have the numbers to make that happen. The America Taliban is winning and ‘good men’ are watching it happen. My husband and son have written zero letters made zero calls. My friend has written zero letters, made zero calls. They wave at the sinking Titanic saying…what am I supposed to do about it? You would think they would make one f-ing call!

Grins

(7,217 posts)
32. Name one Doctor that ever proscribed Meth fumes.
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 04:50 PM
Jan 2023

They want to imprison women to stay in office. This is a slippery slope.

Mysterian

(4,587 posts)
33. Any state official that tries to enforce this should be arrested and charged
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 06:01 PM
Jan 2023

Time to stop fucking around with these christo-fascists.

raising2moredems

(638 posts)
35. Prove it is all I can say...
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 12:13 AM
Jan 2023

Just because a package is delivered to an address means nothing. And by the time the pussy posse gets wind (no pun intended), the drugs are likely not detectable. Prove a positive pregnancy test, prove the pill were taken. Remember (and sorry AL DU members), squealing like a pig wasn't exclusive to Deliverance.

LudwigPastorius

(9,139 posts)
36. "Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall said Tuesday..."
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 12:16 AM
Jan 2023

Go fuck yourself, you Trump-fluffing, redneck shithead.

The Bopper

(184 posts)
37. Time to go
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 02:46 PM
Jan 2023

I can carry an AK or AR in the open and “say” I feel uncomfortable and “legally “shoot someone, but I can’t take “legal” medicine in my own house. THATS THOSE a*holes definition of “freedom “. 99% of Alabama is a 3rd world country and proud of it.

Marthe48

(16,949 posts)
38. Here's a thought
Sat Jan 14, 2023, 02:03 PM
Jan 2023

The sane people in government and in the public need to understand that if we tell religion to stay in their own lane, we aren't denying God. We are denying the zealots' oppression of our own rights to practice our faith the way we want to and to live our lives as we wish to. I am not less faithful because I support free will, not less good because I don't thump a Bible in everyone's face. The zealots are no less bullies than their brethen carrying fully automatic weapons in public. As long as we the people act like we're in the wrong for observing our rights, and the government doesn't rein in the zealots and bullies, the zealots and bullies are going to keep encroaching on rights laid out in the U.S. Constitution, and making America unidentifiable as America.

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