Ford halts production, shipments of F-150 Lightning over possible battery issue
Source: Reuters
Ford Motor Co (F.N) said on Tuesday that it had stopped production and shipments of its F-150 Lightning electric pickup after discovering a potential battery issue during pre-delivery checks.
"We are not aware of any incidences of this issue in the field," Ford spokesperson Emma Bergg said in an email. She said the production stop was issued at the start of last week.
Ford added it was investigating the matter, which was earlier reported by CNBC and first reported by Motor Authority. Shares of the automaker were down 1% in afternoon trade.
It did not provide a timeline for restart.
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-halts-production-shipment-f-150-lightning-electric-truck-cnbc-2023-02-14/
Towing issue @ 13:21
Drum
(9,197 posts)Caribbeans
(777 posts)that a 1,800 pound battery that takes at least 1/2 hour to charge and has less than 100 miles of range in the cold might not be a good thing to put in a pick-up truck?
NNadir
(33,544 posts)...in cars is a good thing.
It's a cult I see around here all the time, with very dubious slick marketing videos made by people obviously unfamiliar with the contents of science books.
The world is just filled with absurd ideas, isn't it?
Caribbeans
(777 posts)Certainly not me.
I support solar hydrogen.
I've asked before - apparently you won't honor my requests to ignore each other. I have absolutely no intention of "debating" anything at all with you or anyone that thinks being as rude as possible is worthy of my time. I couldn't possibly care any less what you think about literally anything.
Ciao
NickB79
(19,258 posts)An area that got smoked by a major heatwave this past summer, that's also considered a vital part of China's irrigated agricultural region, and has a bullseye on it's back for future climate change aridification.
Almost sounds like the US Southwest, come to thing of it.
Can't see any future water availability issues there. Nope, none at all.
NNadir
(33,544 posts)Anyone who is showing solar hydrogen being significant in China, or for that matter anywhere else on the planet, is clearly engaged in dishonest marketing.
It's true that in Europe it's made by reforming dangerous natural gas and dumping the waste into the planetary atmosphere, but in China it's made by the reformation of coal.
Every time I see one of these fallacious marketing videos - and generally they are the same ones over and over and over and over and over - I repeat with reference to a scientific journal (as opposed to slick dishonest marketing) the sources of hydrogen on this planet:
The caption:
Progress on Catalyst Development for the Steam Reforming of Biomass and Waste Plastics Pyrolysis Volatiles: A Review Laura Santamaria, Gartzen Lopez, Enara Fernandez, Maria Cortazar, Aitor Arregi, Martin Olazar, and Javier Bilbao, Energy & Fuels 2021 35 (21), 17051-17084]
I referred to this graphic, and reproduced it, discussing a paper in the journal I discussed above here: The current sources and uses of hydrogen.
Note that 4% of the world's hydrogen is made by electrolysis, but only a tiny fraction of the electricity on this planet is made using solar energy, despite the squandering of trillions of dollars on it.
A solar plant like the one pictured in the first disgusting video showing a ruined landscape is said to have a peak power of 200 MW.
Solar garbage typically has a capacity utilization of around 20%, meaning that the average continuous power produced by this vast wasteful exercise showing solar cells that will be electronic waste in 25 years or less, is equivalent of a 40 MW reliable plant.
A 40 MW average continuous power leads to an energy output (with 86,000 seconds per day and 365.25 days per year) of 1.26 Petajoules per year. World energy demand in 2021 was 624 Exajoules, meaning that the fraction generated by this solar garbage is two millionths of world energy demand.
If I were selling snake oil, I wouldn't try to sell it to a herpetologist, a pharmacist or a physician. I might seek out uneducated rubes of course.
I'm not impressed by cheap slick videos from the world's leading consumer of coal; I'm a trained scientist.
It is criminal that a wasteful exercise like hydrogen production is being so actively promoted, this at a time of a climate crisis of unimaginable scale. We don't have energy to waste, and hydrogen, not being a primary source of energy, wastes energy in production.
Anyone capable of passing a high school chemistry final should be, in my opinion, immediately aware of as much. I mean how hard is it to google the "Second law of thermodynamics?"
The idea that solar is a significant source of energy - that we have so much of it that we can waste it by making hydrogen at a thermodynamic loss - is dishonest, because solar energy is not a significant source of energy.
It's trivial. It's less than 1% of the world's energy supply in "percent talk."
The most recent release by the International Energy Agency shows that this garbage fantasy produced just 5 Exajoules on a planet consuming 624 Exajoules per year.
Source: 2022 IEA World Energy Outlook Table A 1a, page 435
DU features an ignore button, and any person who is a member is free to use it. I have used it on occasion. However, I am not likely to be directed to use it, particularly when asked to do so for confronting obvious dishonesty.
I'm sorry to say that I give a shit about humanity, and in the age of bald faced lying, it is an important task to report the truth.
Efforts to say that hydrogen is a clean, "green" fuel are inherently dishonest. It's, um, a lie.
Have a nice evening.
Eko
(7,351 posts)that it can power my house is pretty cool.
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Eko
(7,351 posts)TomSlick
(11,109 posts)When manufactures get the range up, I will want one. I understand that driving a green house gases producer is not a good thing.
Mosby
(16,350 posts)That model produces 750 pounds of torque, the highest for any F-150 in history. Towing capacity is 10k.
TomSlick
(11,109 posts)When it comes time to buy the next truck, I'll look into it.
Thanks.
canuckledragger
(1,664 posts)The more power you try to pack into it, the more volatile the metal/chemical mixture becomes.
There's a reason you've been hearing more about exploding phones, laptops catching fire etc these past few years. The tech is reaching it's limits.
truthisfreedom
(23,155 posts)We need new tech. Im constantly on the lookout for the next commercial breakthrough. Lithium ion is just too dangerous.
Drum
(9,197 posts)Eko
(7,351 posts)found your authors lol.
icymist
(15,888 posts)Ford Motor and China's CATL have thwarted the plans of Korean electric vehicle (EV) battery manufacturers to dominate the North American market by capitalizing on the U.S. Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), according to industry officials, Tuesday.
The U.S. carmaker announced, on Monday local time, that it will build a lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery plant in the state of Michigan by licensing technologies from the Chinese battery maker, which has the world's largest market share.
Given that the factory will be wholly owned by Ford and the two companies plan to minimize the use of key minerals and components from China, their strategy has enabled the U.S. firm to continue enjoying tax incentives and subsidies in accordance with the IRA, avoiding the Joe Biden administration's attempt to exclude Chinese battery makers from the U.S. market.
"Under the arrangement, Ford's wholly owned subsidiary would manufacture the battery cells using LFP battery cell knowledge and services provided by CATL," Ford said in a press release. "This new agreement with CATL adds to Ford's existing battery capacity and available battery technology made possible through a series of key collaborations ― including with SK On and LG Energy Solution (LGES)."
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/tech/2023/02/419_345388.html