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Polybius

(15,398 posts)
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 11:02 PM Feb 2023

Mayor Lori Lightfoot of Chicago Loses Her Bid for Re-election

Source: NY Times

CHICAGO — Mayor Lori Lightfoot of Chicago lost her bid for a second term on Tuesday, The Associated Press said, a resounding defeat that reflected widespread dissatisfaction from voters over her handling of crime and policing in the nation’s third-largest city.

Four years ago, Ms. Lightfoot made history as the first Black woman to be elected mayor of Chicago when she swept all 50 of the city’s wards. But she saw her popularity plunge during the coronavirus pandemic as Chicago suffered a spike in violent crime, with looting and destruction on its famed Magnificent Mile in 2020.

The two candidates to emerge from Tuesday’s first round of voting — Paul Vallas, a former public schools executive, and Brandon Johnson, a county board commissioner — will advance to a runoff election on April 4.

The race showcased the political divide that has emerged in some of America’s largest, most liberal cities, where hard-on-crime policies have increasingly resonated with voters.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/28/us/chicago-mayoral-election-lightfoot-vallas.html

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Mayor Lori Lightfoot of Chicago Loses Her Bid for Re-election (Original Post) Polybius Feb 2023 OP
As an adopted Chicagoan... nycbos Feb 2023 #1
Mayor Lightfoot did say that anyone not voting for her should stay home and not vote. MichMan Feb 2023 #2
I saw an article today that said 100,000 didn't return their mail in ballots. nycbos Feb 2023 #3
That's ridiculous & not very Cha Feb 2023 #4
83% of those who did vote chose a candidate other than Lightfoot Jose Garcia Mar 2023 #23
LOL DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #5
Vallas was the city budget director too. nycbos Feb 2023 #6
That would certainly help DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #7
The CPD currently has more than 1000 vacancies in the patrol division. nycbos Mar 2023 #8
"Hiring the right people" is what real leaders do. He needs to hire a crime expert oldsoftie Mar 2023 #28
Budgeting is not his forte. live love laugh Mar 2023 #9
wow, sounds like Chicago is for a rough ride atm Celerity Mar 2023 #12
Lol, to solve the crime problem, DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #13
This is no surprise frazzled Mar 2023 #10
Johnson, backed by the Chicago Teachers Union, has pushed a more progressive agenda. SunSeeker Mar 2023 #14
Did you meant say "Vallas emphasizes cracking down on crime"? ShazzieB Mar 2023 #17
Yes. nt SunSeeker Mar 2023 #18
i used to hear vallas on joan esposito's show orleans Mar 2023 #21
so... myohmy2 Mar 2023 #11
One word rarely if ever mentioned while discussing crime in Chicago. Indiana. shrike3 Mar 2023 #15
I'm sorry, I can't buy that Middlevoter Mar 2023 #19
Chicago's poor need a college education and good jobs. SunSeeker Mar 2023 #22
Guns are everywhere in Indiana. No need to put it all on Gary. shrike3 Mar 2023 #35
Wow, I can't imagine living with than kind of paranoia. SunSeeker Mar 2023 #36
I know. It's only going to get worse. shrike3 Mar 2023 #37
Good way to answer him. SunSeeker Mar 2023 #38
Really; the DA probably needs to get the hook as well oldsoftie Mar 2023 #26
Used a gun in a crime, go to jail forever The Mouth Mar 2023 #30
I'm about to that point myself. By God there IS a deterrent at some point. oldsoftie Mar 2023 #31
You're entitled to not buy it. Chicago's problems do go back decades shrike3 Mar 2023 #32
They might need someone like Karen Bass JI7 Mar 2023 #16
Karen Bass has a thriving economy and rich tax base to help her here in CA. SunSeeker Mar 2023 #20
Really? What has she done? The homeless problem is definitely worse here in the SFV beaglelover Mar 2023 #39
Let's Go Brandon? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #24
This has to be good for Chicago. She just wasnt up to the job oldsoftie Mar 2023 #25
Lori Lightfoot is becoming the new Cynthia McKinney The Grand Illuminist Mar 2023 #27
Maybe 2024 BlueManiac Mar 2023 #29
Nationwide stage? Polybius Mar 2023 #34
It appears that Vallas has hit the limit of his support lees1975 Mar 2023 #33

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
1. As an adopted Chicagoan...
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 11:10 PM
Feb 2023

... I'm more disappointed by the abysmal turn out. I'm watching the stream from ABC. They said around 32%.


nycbos

(6,034 posts)
3. I saw an article today that said 100,000 didn't return their mail in ballots.
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 11:35 PM
Feb 2023

And I didn't vote for Lightfoot. Partly due to he comments about people saying home.

DENVERPOPS

(8,818 posts)
5. LOL
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 11:42 PM
Feb 2023

Like Paul Vallas, (a former public schools executive,) and Brandon Johnson, (a county board commissioner)

know jack shit about running a city the size of Chicago, and even less about fighting crime, given those credentials.....

DENVERPOPS

(8,818 posts)
7. That would certainly help
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 12:18 AM
Mar 2023

but I wouldn't think it would be of assistance if the Crime Problem is an issue...........


Then again, the crime problem probably is accelerated by the profound massive inflation sweeping the nation because of the Record Profiteering being done by the Fascist Corporations in every area of the economy.

Food, Utilities, Gasoline, Rents, Health Care, Pharmaceuticals, etc etc, especially in the necessity areas of the people's budgets, and that is caused entirely by the Republican Party and their atrocious Politicians and their uber wealthy Oligarch campaign donations.

We somehow have to get out of this downward Republican death spiral the U.S. is caught up in......

I often think that these Republican Politicians must not have kids or grand kids.........or don't care about anything but themselves......

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
8. The CPD currently has more than 1000 vacancies in the patrol division.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 12:24 AM
Mar 2023

Officers are not on normal schedule. People are smoking on the weed inside the trains. Someone asked me for a cigarette on a train platform. The service is terrible. While the city certainly had problems before the pandemic things like that didn't happen pre-COIVD. You don't have to be a racist Fox News viewer to say that's messed up.


I didn't support him, but I understand the appeal of someone like Vallas. I am not a fan of Johnson either for the record.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
28. "Hiring the right people" is what real leaders do. He needs to hire a crime expert
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 08:44 AM
Mar 2023

What exeperience did Barack Obama have with medical insurance? None. But he knew who to hire.
Trump was an example of NOT knowing who to hire

live love laugh

(13,104 posts)
9. Budgeting is not his forte.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 12:47 AM
Mar 2023

Last edited Wed Mar 1, 2023, 01:47 AM - Edit history (1)

From Chicago to New Orleans and Philadelphia, Vallas’ budget disasters left taxpayers holding the bag. In Chicago, Vallas fostered the pension crisis taxpayers are paying for today. He won legislative approval to delay payments into the Chicago Public Schools (CPS) teachers’ pension fund. Pushing those payments into the future, he proclaimed himself a hero for ending with a $1 billion surplus. Vallas traded CPS and pension fund stability for his short-term bragging rights. Today, that reckless bargain means Chicago homeowners shovel more than a half-billion dollars a year in property taxes into the pension fund hole Vallas created.

Vallas continued smoke-and-mirrors budgeting as he moved to head school districts around the country. Four months after he told the Philadelphia City Council he created a balanced school budget (and a month after his contract was renewed), the district suddenly revealed a $73 million deficit. Vallas was soon fired. In New Orleans, four consecutive years of audit failures under Vallas’s watch revealed “sloppy record keeping” and millions of dollars unaccounted for.

DENVERPOPS

(8,818 posts)
13. Lol, to solve the crime problem,
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 01:20 AM
Mar 2023

does that mean he is likely to delay payments to the PD's Retirement Fund????????? (sarcasm, people)

These politicians have a way of creating a disastrous nightmare, leaving just in the nick of time before it is revealed, and progressing to another job, usually higher paying and with more status and responsibility.

I have seen the same exact thing, countless times, in the Corporate world.....................
It's depressing..............

I firmly and completely believe: "We Ain't Seen Nothing Yet"...........(regretfully).......

Good people, when they can't afford to feed their families, do criminal things........

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
10. This is no surprise
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 12:47 AM
Mar 2023

Lightfoot had a disapproval rate of 61% as mayor. I never voted for her last time (I was a Toni Preckwinkle advocate, a highly experienced woman in government and, in my opinion, the real progressive in that race. Lightfoot had no government experience and I didn’t see how a corporate attorney fit the bill).

That said, now we have two equally bad choices, imo, between Vallas and Johnson. I don’t even know if I want to vote, and I’ve never not voted.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
14. Johnson, backed by the Chicago Teachers Union, has pushed a more progressive agenda.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 01:45 AM
Mar 2023

Last edited Wed Mar 1, 2023, 02:33 AM - Edit history (1)

While Vallas emphasizes cracking down on crime.

https://blockclubchicago.org/2023/02/28/vallas-johnson-take-early-lead-in-chicagos-mayoral-race/

They are both life long Democrats.

One of them must suit you better than the other.

Please vote. Always vote.


ShazzieB

(16,389 posts)
17. Did you meant say "Vallas emphasizes cracking down on crime"?
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 02:18 AM
Mar 2023

I don't live in Chicago, so I don't get a vote. If I did, I think I'd lean toward Johnson, based on the little bit I know about both of them. I'd have to do quite a bit of research to decide for sure, but Vallas' budgetary history definitely gives me pause.

Good luck, Chicago. Whoever you pick, I sure hope they do a halfway decent job for the city. Chicago needs a good mayor!

orleans

(34,051 posts)
21. i used to hear vallas on joan esposito's show
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 03:06 AM
Mar 2023

she had him on every week. (she said she stopped having him on when he decided to run for mayor)

anyway, i remember thinking for the longest time that he was a republican.
he drove me crazy, and i couldn't figure out why she had him on as a regular.

i really haven't paid attention to the candidates (i'm not in chgo either--i'm in the western burbs) but i'd never vote for vallas. ugh!

shrike3

(3,583 posts)
15. One word rarely if ever mentioned while discussing crime in Chicago. Indiana.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 01:48 AM
Mar 2023

Where buying a gun gets easier every day. There's a gun store just miles to the east of me. Illinois plates fill its parking lot every day. I don't know what the rules are if you're an out of state buyer. They must be easily overcome, given the amount of out of state customers.

I know it's not the sole reason for Chicago's crime problem. But access to guns is tough to address when you've got candy/gun stores on the other side of the border.

In 1974, 970 people were killed in Chicago. In 2022, 675 people were slain. So violence and crime have been around for a long time in that city. The violence in 2020 brought the inner racist in many whites, I'm afraid.
 

Middlevoter

(13 posts)
19. I'm sorry, I can't buy that
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 02:48 AM
Mar 2023

Chicago's problems come mainly from lack of prosecution on violent crimes and complete lack of prosecution on gun crimes. Laws don't make sense unless you enforce them. And as far as the white supremacy angle, the data doesn't support that at all. Most of the murders are inner city conflicts, and most are gang related. Hopefully they can find a solution to these problems.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
22. Chicago's poor need a college education and good jobs.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 03:15 AM
Mar 2023

Chicago used to be the #1 industrial center in the U.S. Now its growing industries are health-related and IT, which doesn't help the uneducated poor, who used to be able to get low skill but relatively good paying factory jobs. Now they can only get minimum wage jobs as fast food workers, etc. Hopefully the Infrastructure Act will be a big help to Chicago.

You're right, Chicago's gun laws need better enforcement, especially in high crime neighborhoods. Folks in those neighborhoods are the first to say so, and are even suing over that. https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-pritzker-illinois-gun-laws-foid-tom-geoghegan-michael-pfleger-20220906-aaeaigxtmzb3nncnfexomrniqq-story.html Hopefully they can shake loose some funding for that.

But Gary, Indiana being basically a suburb of Chicago does not help matters. Less than half the guns used in Illinois crime come from Illinois. https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-crime-shooting-guns-illinois-gun-laws/11937013/

shrike3

(3,583 posts)
35. Guns are everywhere in Indiana. No need to put it all on Gary.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 04:07 PM
Mar 2023

I know people who live out in the middle of cornfields and are armed to the teeth. You ask them what exactly they are afraid of and they can't tell you. I remember overhearing one man say that he was on his way to Walmart (fifty miles from Gary), realized he'd left his gun at home and was "a nervous wreck" until he'd finished his shopping and got out of there.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
36. Wow, I can't imagine living with than kind of paranoia.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 04:34 PM
Mar 2023

Can't go to Walmart without a gun? That's nuts.

shrike3

(3,583 posts)
37. I know. It's only going to get worse.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 04:47 PM
Mar 2023

There's a whole new generation of men, young men, white men, who are getting indoctrinated in this kind of thinking. I'm on FB with one (he's a relative) and he was going on about the complexity of gun categories. "Where do you draw the line?" he said.

I said, "We draw lines all the time. It's what civilized societies do. Is it perfect? No. But we don't just throw up our hands and do nothing." He had no answer for that.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
26. Really; the DA probably needs to get the hook as well
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 08:22 AM
Mar 2023

Lax prosecution just encourages MORE crime. Proven everywhere.

The Mouth

(3,149 posts)
30. Used a gun in a crime, go to jail forever
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 12:05 PM
Mar 2023

or at least 30 years. Period, no exceptions, no exclusions, no excuses.

That would be the place to start.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
31. I'm about to that point myself. By God there IS a deterrent at some point.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 01:26 PM
Mar 2023

People talk about the death penalty not being a deterrent but we've never really tried to see if it was. When you are really just doing life because they wait 20-30 yrs to DO it.
But for the DP, the law must be changed before I'd push for 6mo executions.

shrike3

(3,583 posts)
32. You're entitled to not buy it. Chicago's problems do go back decades
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 03:03 PM
Mar 2023

Almost a hundred years, to the 20s in fact. No one ever seems to have the means or the will to fix them. I have no idea how well the new mayor will do. I do predict that he will be despised, in time. The only question is, how soon?

I bring up my state, Indiana, because so many guns flow across state line. Hoosiers mock Chicago's gun laws while providing a good number of its criminals with firearms. Given the way things are going in this state, it'll become even easier.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
16. They might need someone like Karen Bass
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 02:06 AM
Mar 2023

Someone who is kind of low key but knows all the policy and procedures and other "boring" things.

She has been able to get things done when it comes to the homeless issue. Not that it's solved but you can see changes taking place.

But I do think the issue in Chicago is more complicated .

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
20. Karen Bass has a thriving economy and rich tax base to help her here in CA.
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 02:53 AM
Mar 2023

Chicago still hasn't been able to shake off the rust belt issues that have plagued it for decades now. It boomed in the era of industrialization, but declined during post-industrialization. Chicago was, for a long time, the #1 industrial center in the U.S. Now its growing industries are health-related and IT, which doesn't help the uneducated poor, who used to be able to get low skill but relatively good paying factory jobs. Now they can only get minimum wage jobs as fast food workers, etc. Hopefully the Infrastructure Act will be a big help to Chicago.

beaglelover

(3,469 posts)
39. Really? What has she done? The homeless problem is definitely worse here in the SFV
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 07:23 PM
Mar 2023

area of L.A. since she took office. Not saying it's her fault, but I have yet to see any improvement since she's been in office. The homeless are now camping in the center median under the overpasses which makes driving at night here very dangerous. The new tiny home villages built around L.A. did seem to help get a lot of the homeless off of the streets, but things appear to be getting back to how bad it was in 2020.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
25. This has to be good for Chicago. She just wasnt up to the job
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 08:19 AM
Mar 2023

I think Johnson is the better of the two, but I'm not up to speed fully on either.

 

BlueManiac

(19 posts)
29. Maybe 2024
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 10:15 AM
Mar 2023

will find her better place to use her talents on the nationwide stage. She still has a lot to offer America afterall.

lees1975

(3,850 posts)
33. It appears that Vallas has hit the limit of his support
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 03:40 PM
Mar 2023

and that Johnson will be able to pull together enough of a coalition to win.

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