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BumRushDaShow

(129,905 posts)
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 05:37 PM Mar 2023

6-year-old who shot teacher won't face criminal charges, prosecutor says

Source: NBC News

The city prosecutor in Newport News, Virginia, said Wednesday that he would not seek charges against the 6-year-old boy who shot his elementary school teacher in January but has yet to decide whether any adults associated with the case could be held criminally liable.

In an interview with NBC News, Newport News Commonwealth's Attorney Howard Gwynn said the "prospect that a 6-year-old can stand trial is problematic" given that a child that young wouldn't have the competency to understand the legal system and what a charge means or adequately assist an attorney. It's not unheard of for an adolescent of that age to be arrested in general, and theoretically, a 6-year-old child could be criminally charged under Virginia law.

But Gwynn said that he does not believe there is a legal basis to charge a child and that his office, after receiving the case in February from Newport News police, is focusing on others.

"Our objective is not just to do something as quickly as possible," Gwynn said. "Once we analyze all the facts, we will charge any person or persons that we believe we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt committed a crime."

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/6-year-old-shot-teacher-newport-news-wont-face-criminal-charges-prosec-rcna70794

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6-year-old who shot teacher won't face criminal charges, prosecutor says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 OP
If what the parents say is true, then how did this happen? Ziggysmom Mar 2023 #1
I don't believe them. RandySF Mar 2023 #5
This is America Miguelito Loveless Mar 2023 #7
The parents were either lying or in a deep state of denial when they claimed that gun was "secured." ShazzieB Mar 2023 #6
That "intentions" word in this creepy justice system on two tracks... Justice matters. Mar 2023 #9
Traditionally, a child reaches the Age of Reason at about 7 years of age. patphil Mar 2023 #2
I get the he isn't old enough part.... but.... getagrip_already Mar 2023 #3
My guess is that he's going to be in court ordered therapy Warpy Mar 2023 #11
Pretending he did nothing wrong isn't okay. onecaliberal Mar 2023 #4
Are the fucking parents being charged?? JHC. Evolve Dammit Mar 2023 #8
+ 1 nt pazzyanne Mar 2023 #17
I get the kid isn't old enough for the penal system yet slightlv Mar 2023 #10
Potentially nobody will be held accountable and/or punished for a no_hypocrisy Mar 2023 #12
In my opinion, if the child was able to get the gun, markodochartaigh Mar 2023 #13
So this is how it begins... FoggyLake Mar 2023 #14
The only remedy .... Shoonra Mar 2023 #15
Every parent whose child gets a hold of a gun Old Crank Mar 2023 #16
THIS moonshinegnomie Mar 2023 #20
A Good Kid with a Gun. ZonkerHarris Mar 2023 #18
From what I've read, this child needs to be in a locked mental hospital. He seems extremely diane in sf Mar 2023 #19

Ziggysmom

(3,431 posts)
1. If what the parents say is true, then how did this happen?
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 05:42 PM
Mar 2023

SNIP

"In the wake of the shooting, the family of the 6-year-old boy said in a statement that the weapon was "secured" in the home and that they have "always been committed to responsible gun ownership and keeping firearms out of the reach of children."

ShazzieB

(16,612 posts)
6. The parents were either lying or in a deep state of denial when they claimed that gun was "secured."
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 06:23 PM
Mar 2023

They can say all the pretty words they want about being "committed to responsible gun ownership and keeping firearms out of the reach of children." They can even believe what they're saying is true. That doesn't change the reality that THEIR KID got hold of a loaded gun (or loaded it himself), took it to school, and SHOT someone.

Whatever their intentions may have been, they were obviously not being as diligent about "keeping firearms out of the reach of children" as they needed to be.

IMO, continuing to keep firearms in their home, under the same roof as a kid who has SHOWN what he's capable of doing if he gets hold of one, would be extremely reckless and irresponsible. If they still insist on owning guns, they should be required to store them under lock and key at a location that kid has NO access to.do.

Justice matters.

(6,955 posts)
9. That "intentions" word in this creepy justice system on two tracks...
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 06:34 PM
Mar 2023

Apparently, the prosecutors must prove INTENT of providing the gun to their child to commit a crime with it.

But of course it's nothing and everything based on a case by case judgement in this system. If they're not super rich and connected... beware of the different status in society!

getagrip_already

(14,935 posts)
3. I get the he isn't old enough part.... but....
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 05:57 PM
Mar 2023

Something has to be done to keep this kid away from any situation where he can be a danger to people.

He may not be responsible, but he is very, very dangerous given a lack of empathy or reason.

Sending him home and back to school is not an answer.

Warpy

(111,420 posts)
11. My guess is that he's going to be in court ordered therapy
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 07:08 PM
Mar 2023

for some time to come. The threats he made to people around him are not normal. Let's hope early intervention can help this kid.

6 year old kids have to be taught empathy, they think it's like the cartoons when if you shoot someone, he's back in the next scene.

These parents need to be encouraged to get rid of their guns and if they're too wedded to guns to do that, to store them outside their residence. If this gun was secured (which I do doubt), the kid was good at picking locks.

slightlv

(2,866 posts)
10. I get the kid isn't old enough for the penal system yet
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 06:50 PM
Mar 2023

and I wouldn't feel good about subjecting him to it. It would probably be worse for him. However, he should be locked away in a psychiatrics facility under intensive care such that he might stand a chance of coming out at the age of majority a functioning, caring individual.

In the case of a sociopath (or psychopath) I'm not sure there is such a cure, IMO. If there is something missing in the brain that allows them to be such an individual, that individual may have to be kept from society as a safety precaution for himself and the good of society as a whole. I don't like the idea, but it may be necessary for the good of the whole. We have never wrestled with these questions to the end result. With the rise of MAGA, it is time, IMO. I believe we are seeing the rise of the psychopaths. Until we come up with a treatment plan, something that is more than a simple plan to arrest them from the cult, something that gets at them from the brain issues, (see Ginni Thomas) then they'll just be at a vulnerable state for the next dominant figure to take advantage of them.

I've got fibro brain. Forgive if this doesn't make sense. It makes sense in my rattling brain. I just now got out of bed. I studied this for ages decades ago. It was one of my disciplines in psychology. But it seemed like no one wanted to take the necessary steps to protect society. I ended up going into computers for my career.

no_hypocrisy

(46,276 posts)
12. Potentially nobody will be held accountable and/or punished for a
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 07:23 PM
Mar 2023

six year old shooting and seriously injuring his teacher.

If the teacher was allowed to carry a firearm and shot the six year old, wanna bet she'd be held accountable?

markodochartaigh

(1,166 posts)
13. In my opinion, if the child was able to get the gun,
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:25 PM
Mar 2023

ipso facto it was not properly secured.

It looks like Florida has vicarious liability laws for vehicle accidents, vandalism, theft, etc. but maybe only economic damages would be covered. I could never be an attorney. I would be too discouraged from constantly having to tell injured people that, yes, they were in the right, but the law can't really help them

FoggyLake

(60 posts)
14. So this is how it begins...
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:56 AM
Mar 2023

The lack of consequences for his behavior probably fortends this kid's descent into becoming a serial killer or a Republican.

Old Crank

(3,662 posts)
16. Every parent whose child gets a hold of a gun
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:06 AM
Mar 2023

needs to be jailed. Most of these peopel leave their weapons laying around like party favors. Yes kids are inquisitive. But putting a gun in a nightstand drawer is not security. Must have a locked gun cabinet and separate storage, locked, for the ammo.
There is no excuse for not having proper storage.

moonshinegnomie

(2,502 posts)
20. THIS
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 10:23 AM
Mar 2023

if your 6 year old shots shomeone with a gun becasue he got a hold of your gun then you should face the charges your kid is to young to face.

diane in sf

(3,919 posts)
19. From what I've read, this child needs to be in a locked mental hospital. He seems extremely
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 04:09 AM
Mar 2023

disturbed and dangerous.

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