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JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:46 PM Mar 2023

Fox News Journalists Sound Off on 'Soul-Crushing' Dominion Filings

Source: Daily Beast

“I think no regular person could read this and look at Fox like a news organization at this point.”

In the wake of bombshell legal filings showing that Fox News executives and stars seemingly sought to pacify their disgruntled MAGA viewers by airing election lies, while punishing and censoring the employees attempting to deliver the actual truth, the above observation has become commonplace within media circles.

But some of the shots are being fired from within the conservative cable giant.

According to nine Fox News staffers and insiders, the pre-trial filings in Dominion Voting Systems’ $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News further impugn and sully the reputation of the network’s “straight news” journalists, especially since they show Fox was “operating out of fear” over losing viewers to smaller right-wing competitors following its Decision Desk’s early (and accurate) Arizona election night call for President Joe Biden.

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-journos-sound-off-on-soul-crushing-dominion-legal-filings?ref=home

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Fox News Journalists Sound Off on 'Soul-Crushing' Dominion Filings (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Mar 2023 OP
Shut them down Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #1
+1 nt JoeOtterbein Mar 2023 #2
Would require that they lose enough of their advertisers long enough that they cstanleytech Mar 2023 #7
Yep, probably... IthinkThereforeIAM Mar 2023 #13
They get most of their money from compulsory carry fees of cable/satellite companies, not ads. PSPS Mar 2023 #24
Most but not all. Now if people really want to hurt them the ones to put their feet under the fire cstanleytech Mar 2023 #25
Been trying to get my provider to drop Fox News for year SouthernDem4ever Mar 2023 #32
Take away their FCC license UpInArms Mar 2023 #3
There is no FCC license to take away, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #4
Take away the Fox affiliates FCC license n/t aggiesal Mar 2023 #5
why? MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #6
So FOX News stories never make it to the Fox affiliates? ... aggiesal Mar 2023 #9
So that's your reason for the FCC to yank their broadcast license? MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #11
Actually there's a much larger problem on the affiliate level and it's not just fox SouthernDem4ever Mar 2023 #33
Interesting... Wuddles440 Mar 2023 #26
Well, I travel the country, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #27
Not an "anomaly"... Wuddles440 Mar 2023 #28
I'm giving you my experiences with many different Fox affiliates, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #29
On what grounds? cstanleytech Mar 2023 #8
Apparently on these grounds. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #14
Except Fox News is not the Fox tv network not to mention cstanleytech Mar 2023 #16
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #18
Lie down with dogs, wake up a-scratchin'... n/t TygrBright Mar 2023 #10
When Dominion engulfs Fox News, and the new company Dominion News Corporation NCjack Mar 2023 #12
I am loving this scenario. Grimelle Mar 2023 #31
Fox News "Journalists"?????? Thay don't have Journalists, They're Paid Actors. W T F Mar 2023 #15
They do have some actual journalists. ShazzieB Mar 2023 #17
Chris went bye-bye. czarjak Mar 2023 #19
Good for him! ShazzieB Mar 2023 #23
It's not about the red or the blue... Auggy74 Mar 2023 #20
No person who has worked for FUX in the last two decades can claim the title of "journalist" RockRaven Mar 2023 #21
Lies always get found out, ask George Santos (or whoever he is) Warpy Mar 2023 #22
" sully the reputation " Novara Mar 2023 #30
I'd have to ask: "so why are you still working there?" calimary Mar 2023 #34

cstanleytech

(26,286 posts)
7. Would require that they lose enough of their advertisers long enough that they
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:51 AM
Mar 2023

burn through their cash reserves.
That to be honest is unlikely to happen as at most the varies companies would only suspend advertising on Fox just long enough until they believe the heat has died down a bit.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
13. Yep, probably...
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:03 AM
Mar 2023

... But I think ol' Rupert is setting it all up to say, "we are registered as an entertainment entity, so we never had to tell the truth".

As they have done in past lawsuits concerning censorship and editorial hijinx.

cstanleytech

(26,286 posts)
25. Most but not all. Now if people really want to hurt them the ones to put their feet under the fire
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 04:48 AM
Mar 2023

should be the cable companies.
If the 5 largest cable companies dropped Fox that would really hurt Fox.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
32. Been trying to get my provider to drop Fox News for year
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:09 PM
Mar 2023

or at least give me a plan where my monthly fees don't feed their lying machine.

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
3. Take away their FCC license
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:05 AM
Mar 2023

and salt the ground they stand on …

they should be sent to the dustbin in ignominious fate

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,369 posts)
4. There is no FCC license to take away,
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:09 AM
Mar 2023

Faux operates over cable, of which the FCC has no authority over and no license to operate.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,369 posts)
6. why?
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:35 AM
Mar 2023


The OTA Fox affiliates are nothing like Faux cable, matter of fact, the local Fox channels are pretty good at their programming, I love watching Fox shows like American Dad, Simpsons, Family Guy plus during baseball season, they do a great job of broadcasting.

Their news casts are pretty straight forward and accurate, so why would you want the FCC to take away their license to operate on public airwaves?

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
9. So FOX News stories never make it to the Fox affiliates? ...
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:54 AM
Mar 2023

Their hosts never appear on any Fox affiliates?
They still feed $$$'s into the Fox coffers.

I feel they're guilty after the fact.
Sunday programming has FOX News Sunday.

So yes, I don't believe they're innocent in all this.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,369 posts)
11. So that's your reason for the FCC to yank their broadcast license?
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:00 AM
Mar 2023
I feel they're guilty after the fact.


The courts and repigs would have a field day with that.

What you feel and what's legal are 2 far different things, thankfully.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
33. Actually there's a much larger problem on the affiliate level and it's not just fox
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:12 PM
Mar 2023

All of the locals are being gobbled up by larger corps who are controlling the narrative of what the affiliates report. So it's not just Fux, but almost all of them. They need to be broken back up and made separate entities that serve their local communities better.

Wuddles440

(1,121 posts)
26. Interesting...
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 08:47 AM
Mar 2023

because that's not been my experience with the Faux affiliate for the Cleveland market! While not as overtly partisan as their cable sibling, they certainly have a right wing bias and promote their cable programming/hosts.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,369 posts)
27. Well, I travel the country,
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 08:54 AM
Mar 2023

spend nights in truck stops across the country and watch Fox affiliates quite often and my experience is far different than yours.
I have not once seen any promoting of Faux hosts on any of the affiliates I've watched over the few years I've been a truck driver so yours is probably an anomaly.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,369 posts)
29. I'm giving you my experiences with many different Fox affiliates,
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 09:11 AM
Mar 2023

as I said, the many Fox affiliates I've watched while in my truck are far different than what you describe.

cstanleytech

(26,286 posts)
16. Except Fox News is not the Fox tv network not to mention
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:47 AM
Mar 2023

local affiliates that carry the Fox programming are most of the time not even owned by the network.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
12. When Dominion engulfs Fox News, and the new company Dominion News Corporation
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:00 AM
Mar 2023

emerges, all management and propagandists will be replaced.

ShazzieB

(16,382 posts)
17. They do have some actual journalists.
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:57 AM
Mar 2023

Like Chris Wallace, for example. I think the so-called "personalities" (Hannity, Carlson, Ingraham, etc.) make the whole organization look so bad that I don't know why any "real" journalist would want to be associated with it, but some of them continue to hold on, for whatever reason.

ShazzieB

(16,382 posts)
23. Good for him!
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:48 AM
Mar 2023

I missed hearing about that, but it sounds like a good move for him.

It's ironic, considering that I used him as an example because he was the only Fox Noise "journalist" I knew by name, other than Shepherd Smith, who went bye-bye a while back.

RockRaven

(14,962 posts)
21. No person who has worked for FUX in the last two decades can claim the title of "journalist"
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:39 AM
Mar 2023

And don't bother with any "but Shep Smith! but Chris Wallace!" bullshit. Those guys were gleeful propagandists for years until they hit some personal limit.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
22. Lies always get found out, ask George Santos (or whoever he is)
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:41 AM
Mar 2023

and the bigger and more numerous the lies, the bigger the consequences.

Besides, you guys didn't have souls to crush. You sold them to the highest bidder years ago.

Novara

(5,841 posts)
30. " sully the reputation "
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 10:07 AM
Mar 2023

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

As soon as you become an employee, your reputation is toast.

What I want to see is Dominion winning their case, of course, then I want to see the court mandate that Fox has to publicly apologize, run constant disclaimers, and risk being fined if they report anything as "news" that is not backed up by fact. I'd like to see a running crawl on their broadcasts with a disclaimer that this is not news. And I'd like to see them prohibited from calling themselves "news."

I'd also like to see the Fairness Doctrine come back.

calimary

(81,222 posts)
34. I'd have to ask: "so why are you still working there?"
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 04:16 PM
Mar 2023

You’re accepting their money. What does that make you?

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