New color scheme unveiled for Air Force One that discards Trump's design
Source: CNN Politics
CNN The US Air Force unveiled a new color scheme for the new Air Force One jets under construction on Friday, doing away with the darker red, white, and blue chosen by former President Donald Trump and opting for a modernized version of the classic design of the presidents aircraft.
The color scheme also scraps the design Trump wanted for Air Force One, which featured a deep red stripe down the middle of the aircraft and a dark blue underbelly. It was confirmed that Trumps preferred color scheme had been rejected last year because it would require additional engineering, increasing the time it would take to build and the cost of the aircraft, which has already suffered numerous delays. The dark blue paint threatened to overheat sophisticated electronic components on board and would have required additional Federal Aviation Administration qualification testing, the Air Force said.
Instead, the Next Air Force One, as its known, will feature largely the same colors as the aircraft it is replacing, with one subtle exception. Renderings provided first to CNN show the shade of blue around the nose and engines of the aircraft will be a darker color than the current robins egg blue. The overall scheme stays true to the design Air Force One has sported since President John F. Kennedy was in the White House 60 years ago.
This rendering shows the Air Force One color scheme.
A model of President Donald Trump's proposed redesign of Air Force One on display in the Oval Office of the White House in October 2019.
According to the Air Force, President Joe Biden had to select the new livery so that Boeing could conduct engineering, certification preparation, and more for the VC-25B aircraft, which is a modified 747-8i. These steps will occur as Boeing is also modifying and testing the fleet of two aircraft currently under construction.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/10/politics/air-force-one-color-scheme
LOL good.
hlthe2b
(102,509 posts)THat is such welcome news!
(more annoyance for TFG... )
BumRushDaShow
(129,951 posts)It's almost the same blue that the Philly police cars used in the '70s -
(that blue had been a switch from decades of being red but now they have been white since the mid-80s)
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,951 posts)And the ketchup starts to fly!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)And Depends filling regularly.
BumRushDaShow
(129,951 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)May he never have a good day again!
machoneman
(4,016 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Tfg's looked like a Fed-Ex package.
SharonAnn
(13,781 posts)louis-t
(23,310 posts)so he could get paid every time someone flew the thing.
hlthe2b
(102,509 posts)"Trump Force One"
thenelm1
(859 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,380 posts)The six smaller splashes represent his future plans for the court.
So, yeah, a scorecard of sorts.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,301 posts)Meadowoak
(5,571 posts)moonscape
(4,676 posts)ZZenith
(4,136 posts)Meadowoak
(5,571 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,743 posts)Now you owe me a keyboard!!!
riversedge
(70,441 posts)aggiesal
(8,955 posts)We serve him, for my sisters wedding.
Every time we'd eat at the reception, we would tease her with
"Look we're eating Stupidface"
2naSalit
(86,920 posts)Auggie
(31,230 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,927 posts)Air Force and airlines have confirmed that the darker colors add significant weight which requires more fuel burned over the cumulative number of times a plane accelerates, takes off and lands.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)2015:
New livery:
calimary
(81,594 posts)His darker color scheme looks ALL WRONG.
Downright ugly, if you ask me. Actually looks rather sinister.
sheshe2
(84,057 posts)Traildogbob
(8,884 posts)Forever more.
OMGWTF
(3,987 posts)ladies group for their monthly luncheon. I make sure the red hat I wear doesn't look anything like a MAGAt hat.
Layzeebeaver
(1,646 posts)Any critical aircraft should have a paint scheme that helps reduce hostile forces identificaiton and targeting capability.
That Trump design of dark blue and red would have clearly helped hostile forces.
That said, AF1 has an incredible set of threat aversion technology.... but still... paint it an effective defensive colour scheme.
BumRushDaShow
(129,951 posts)there are some commercial airlines like KLM that use that light blue color and that can sortof camouflage AF1 as something not "official/governmental" (outside of the big "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" on the side) if someone was trying to target it.
Captain Zero
(6,861 posts)That blue is almost a black.
Shipwack
(2,180 posts)I would never have thought that somethings as "trivial" as a paint scheme would have such a huge impact on design and testing.
BumRushDaShow
(129,951 posts)(and yes, the paint was a big part of it)
MyOwnPeace
(16,951 posts)Our President tRump NEW that we had a 'stealth plane' that was truly invisible! He nose what he's talking about - after all, he's got the bestest brain!
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-genuinely-seems-believe-f-35s-are-literally-invisible-n1131361
BumRushDaShow
(129,951 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,951 posts)And he's there in the back there on the golden sh*tter sending out another tweet now that he's allowed back on!
wendyb-NC
(3,344 posts)and color scheme.
Xipe Totec
(43,892 posts)Riverman100
(277 posts)Undue everything he did! Next get rid of the idiotic space force and give whatever they are doing to the usaf!
Butterflylady
(3,556 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,735 posts)Easier to shoot down. The underside should be the color of the sky, as far as I remember.. Maybe different these days.
machoneman
(4,016 posts)painted that way to reflect heat & light emanating from the just dropped nuclear bomb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-flash_white
jmowreader
(50,589 posts)Trump:
The new Air Force One livery will be this. Pulls out picture.
Fuck you, asshole. We are NOT going to paint Air Force One to look just like your personal airplane, just upside down. Who the fuck do you think you are?
Biden:
Theres nothing wrong with the current livery. Dont change a thing.
Sir, the jet would look sharper if we changed the color from Robins Egg Blue to UNC Blue and kept the design.
Fine by me.
MyOwnPeace
(16,951 posts)Someone leading with brains as opposed to someone with an 'ego.'
Wounded Bear
(58,773 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,430 posts)moniss
(4,274 posts)if they would put the US flag a little higher on the tail and the rainbow flag underneath it.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Bayard
(22,228 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,893 posts)based on what Putin would have liked......
The Russian Flag is three horizontal stripes, of White, Red, and Blue.......
Whatthe_Firetruck
(558 posts)twodogsbarking
(9,913 posts)Heads would spin.
Butterflylady
(3,556 posts)Historic NY
(37,460 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,504 posts)live love laugh
(13,204 posts)Martin68
(22,951 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)chosen could cause safety issues.
BumRushDaShow
(129,951 posts)https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104588/vc-25-air-force-one/
They were due for replacement after 30 years and under Obama in 2015, the model was selected. Just ahead of the 2016 election, 45 inserted himself into the process by insulting the effort and once elected, got personally involved and it all went downhill from there. Boeing didn't help by having cost overruns and a decision was made to retrofit 2 Boeing craft originally built for (but not yet delivered to).... brace for it... Russia.
Biden tossed 45's mess over the summer (although from what I have found, they will still be using the planes originally built for a now-defunct Russian airline but have basically been gutting it and reconstructing portions) and the OP's announcement is the result of the change.
Part of the problem, as some have mentioned in this thread, is that apparently the dark color scheme that had originally been chosen, would have impacted the plane's exterior temperature near certain components/sensors, exceeding the spec, as anyone who owns a dark car and dark-colored seating knows they heat up faster than a light car and light-colored seating. That's physics and chemistry.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,179 posts)And it raises the question as to how much a new President's family redecorates or re-does any and all things under the umbrella of the Presidency.
I can bet that Trump took advantage of this as much as he could.
DENVERPOPS
(8,893 posts)of this size, costs a fortune, and the weight of the plane's paint is substantial.
A United Pilot told me the smartest airline was American because their planes exterior was mostly aluminum. He said it saved them a fortune in paint, as well as the reduced weight allowed them to carry more freight, therefore making more profit.
Even worse than painting, is REPAINTING a jetliner. The plane has to be stripped of the previous paint using an incredibly strong paint remover to loosen the epoxy paint. That paint remover is very toxic. So toxic that the workers have to don full PPE hazmat protection to accomplish it. He said it actually takes longer to remove the old paint than it does to just paint the new colors....
Another interesting thing he said was that he was always shocked, every time an Airline gets a new CEO, he wants to make a statement by re-doing the existing logo, and repainting the planes an entirely new color. He laughed and said that the airlines have enough problems trying to make money without that phenomenal expense. He said think about it, and it's not only the planes, but every one of the incredible number of paperwork and forms all being re-printed, the ticket counters at all airports being totally re-done, etc etc
He also talked about the considerable amount of time the planes weren't in operation during the massive repainting, and stated that if a plane isn't in the air, it isn't making money........
Orange Buffoon
(189 posts)They should have kept it the way it was.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,839 posts)musclecar6
(1,693 posts)Missing on the Orange Deplorables rendering of what his idea of a paint job should be, is instead of United States of America emblazoned on the side, it should say Nazi States of America to be in keeping with his ceaseless efforts to be a modern day Hitler.
Delarage
(2,186 posts)First: I must be blind and can't really tell a difference between the 2015 version and the new one--is it just the engines that are darker now?
Second: I love 747s. It's a shame they're not making them anymore, but more efficient planes for hub-and-spoke travel these days were needed.
BumRushDaShow
(129,951 posts)Proposed Biden (render)
ETA -
45's -
This is the "blank" (to show the Boeing model) -
newdayneeded
(1,959 posts)I noticed up-thread an older smaller version of the 747 is shown with the new paint scheme. Which model 747 are they using?
BumRushDaShow
(129,951 posts)or using 2 already-built models destined for Russia due to cost over-runs.
The supposed decision was to retrofit the already-built models for a now-defunct Russian airline, which were 747-8s. More on that.
The current AF1 is a 747-200.
Had to dig but here is a size comparison -
(from here - https://www.ft.com/content/d2bd472b-0e5d-459f-8503-04633aefeb87)
newdayneeded
(1,959 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,951 posts)and one article I scanned that mentioned how they were gutting the insides of the already-built craft, highlighted that.
Cha
(298,021 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,839 posts)RobinA
(9,903 posts)light blue better than the previous light blue, but I kinda lean toward the Trump model. I hate to say it. I think the light blue is nice, but it doesn't say Air Force I to me, it says Pan Am. Or, United Nations.