DOJ Told Court to Expect a Deluge of New Jan. 6 Prosecutions

[brooklynite]

Source: Bloomberg

More than 1,000 additional people could still face charges in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol, according to a letter to the DC federal court from the US attorney in Washington.

The one-page letter, which was reviewed by Bloomberg News, was sent late last year to the chief judge and hasn’t been previously reported. It offers details on what Attorney General Merrick Garland has called “one of the largest, most complex, and most resource-intensive investigations in our history.”

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-15/doj-told-court-to-expect-a-deluge-of-new-jan-6-prosecutions?utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics&utm_medium=social&utm_content=politics

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Damn "Institutionalists".....

[Joinfortmill]

1. Oh, boy, it's getting close to 'Zero Hour'.

[Traildogbob]

2. The choir

Is gonna be HUGE, Bigly. They will drown out trumps solo pledge of allegiance with a prison choir so large. They need a lot of females for the high notes though.

[Scrivener7]

3. Oh, good. Because that is working so well to bring the organizers to justice.

Bobby Lee Maga and his Sons of the Confederacy friends who bused into D.C. from Arkansas are totally going to flip and give us Trump and the 1/5 bomber and the Willard Hotel crowd.

It was such a good idea to spend two years going from the bottom up like that. Rather than going after the organizers from the beginning.

Yee hah.

[Beastly Boy]

11. Because proving seditious conspiracy is a piece of cake

compared to proving unauthorized entry into the Capitol grounds, right?

DOJ going after 1000 criminals is such a bad idea!

[Scrivener7]

30. So you believe the defining criterium for deciding who is prosecuted first is

ease of prosecution, then?

And it has nothing to do with "flipping" the inbred Magas who car-pooled to the Capitol from their home swamps on the assumption that "flipping" those people will lead up some pyramid to the organizers? As people here have ridiculously asserted for two years?

Well, THAT is something you and I can agree on.

Where we disagree is that I feel they should have used equal resources from the start to go after the organizers as they used going after the Magas who were told "it will be wild" and showed up for the party.

I still feel that way. Your mileage, apparently, varies. Jack Smith, apparently, is going after those organizers, but much time has been wasted.

And yes, I know, you disagree.

[Beastly Boy]

33. No, i don't believe it is the defining criterium, not by any means.

Ease of prosecution may be one of the determining factors, but it is not the decisive one, not is it a factor that prevents DOJ from investigating multiple parallel cases all at once.

The dining factor is which of those cases turns out to be the one that insufficiently prepared for a successful prosecution. It's not the ease of prosecution that determines the sequence of indictments, it is the merits of prosecuting at any given time. An easy case may not have all the evidence and arguments lined up in a fool-proof manner, while a harder to prosecutecase may have all the elements ready to go. In this event, the harder case would go to a grand jury first. "Flipping" is a secondary issue: it may turn an unprosecutable case into a prosecutable one, but I don't see an iffy case that promises "flipping" taking precedence over a foolproof case that doesn't. The "flipping" only has an effect on the cases where "flipping" is required for successful prosecution of a case that cannot be prosecuted otherwise. And in this respect, and this respect alone, we certainly disagree.

You are assuming that more DOJ resources went into indicting the proverbial "small fish". That is an unreasonable assumption to make. I feel that, from the start, the lion's share of their resources went to going after the organizers, however you define those. The pace of indictments, however, is not guaranteed to be indicative of the resources that went into them. Justice is not algebra, you can't use a simplistic formula like this to make indiscriminate conclusions that you appear to be making.

And feelings are a poor barometer to gauge what is really taking place to begin with

[Scrivener7]

36. That's a lot of words to say the easiest go first.

[Beastly Boy]

38. Is this what I said? No? Oh, this is what YOU are saying!

I gave you examples of how the easiest is not synonymous with best prepared and most likely to yield results. Did you read my post?

And if this is how you see "easiest", then you are missing the point.

[sybylla]

40. One case takes lots of work. Another doesn't.

Which of the two will get scheduled for prosecution first?

You sound like you think the DOJ can't work on many cases at the same time. You sound like you don't understand how court dockets work. You sound like someone who complains about everything.

This isn't me defending anyone. This is me (and a lot of others) believing that there isn't enough info to rush to criticism, not that this has ever stopped tedious people.

[Scrivener7]

53. Oh, dear! How sad! And you sound like such a friendly, warm, kind person! But I suppose

our friendship was never meant to be. (*Swoons with back of hand to forehead.*)

[we can do it]

23. Yawn

[OMGWTF]

4. I certainly hope one of them is named Donald J. (the "J" is for Jenius) Trump.

[wnylib]

17. Or, the J is for Judas.

[republianmushroom]

5. more little fish ?

[Beastly Boy]

13. Yep, "little fish", all of them:

More than 306 defendants have been charged with corruptly obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding, or attempting to do so.
Approximately 55 defendants have been charged with conspiracy, either: (a) conspiracy to obstruct a congressional proceeding, (b) conspiracy to obstruct law enforcement during a civil disorder, (c) conspiracy to injure an officer, or (d) some combination of the three.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/26-months-jan-6-attack-capitol

...Again, just how exactly do you define "little fish"?

[republianmushroom]

34. 25 months and counting

[Beastly Boy]

35. BWAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!! That was funny, as usual!

Over 1000 indictments, and counting.

Thought you would get a kick out of this.

[republianmushroom]

37. "More than 1,000 additional people could still face charges..."

you did see the word could didn't you and not the word shall.
25 months and counting

[Beastly Boy]

39. Sure I saw the word "could", and that was way after you missed the word "did".

1000 indictment on record so far, and counting!

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

Don't tell me you forgot about this link already!

[republianmushroom]

45. "...why it has taken Merrick Garland these some 800 days to charge trump for the attempted coup..."

Nicole Wallace is on fire today. She's asking each guest

over and over why it has taken Merrick Garland these some 800 days to charge trump for the attempted coup the nation saw on national TV.

And that's not including the stolen docs case, which also should've been adjudicated by now also.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217732122
25 months and counting

[Beastly Boy]

48. Did anyone put out the fire? Is she OK?

Did she ask the guests about DOJ telling the court to expect a deluge of New Jan. 6 prosecutions? Because the last i remember, that was the subject of the OP.
Did you also listen to the answers or no?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3046982

Two bagels and counting. (yes I am having a late lunch).

[republianmushroom]

49. they were evasive

[Beastly Boy]

51. I find your response evasive.

Was there no verbal response to her question that you can quote?

Mmmm-kay!

[Beastly Boy]

6. Damn, the institutionalists at DOJ are so afraid to bring indictments,

they are overwhelming the courts with... more felony indictments!

let me guess: it's a devious plot by Garland to overwhelm the courts with more cases so the organizers are never brought to justice!

More indictments in one of the largest, most complex, and most resource-intensive investigations in our history... what a terrible thing for an AG to do! Garland needs to go!

[republianmushroom]

44. Nicole Wallace is on fire today. She's asking each guest...

over and over why it has taken Merrick Garland these some 800 days to charge trump for the attempted coup the nation saw on national TV.

And that's not including the stolen docs case, which also should've been adjudicated by now also.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217732122
25 months and counting

[Beastly Boy]

46. And?

Did anyone put out the fire? Is she OK?

Did she ask the guests about DOJ telling the court to expect a deluge of New Jan. 6 prosecutions? Because the last i remember, that was the subject of the OP.
Did you also listen to the answers or no?

Two bagels and counting. (yes I am having a late lunch).

[republianmushroom]

47. they were evasive like some others

[Beastly Boy]

50. What do you mean by "evasive"?

Let me guess: they said something like "you have to be a total idiot coconut the days", right?

That's pretty evasive, no?

[republianmushroom]

52. see you do understand evasive.

[Martin68]

7. I'm glad to hear that they are being through in their prosecutions.

[Cheezoholic]

8. These "little fish" could pose a bigger problem in a few years

I'm not saying they don't deserve what they're getting, I think a lot of them are getting off easy. But we could be looking at a couple thousand of these people getting out over the next 5 years at most. Many of them (I'd argue most) have varying degrees of mental health issues IMO and the US prison system is known for it's success in reforming individuals... not. You know they're getting their daily dose of Faux Newz and Fucker Charlatan. The anger and hatred is being given a great place to fester. To top it all off I'm sure when they get out they will be showered with praise as hero's by the extended fascist family that still exists all the way up from basements to Congress. These crazy assholes could be the beginning of an organized fascist style SS recruitment class.

I think they should have to register wherever they live just like sex offenders, they are of the same ilk IMO.

[DemocraticPatriot]

10. Maybe if they spend a few months or years in a prison,

they will "think twice" before repeating similar offences...

I think that most of them will....

[Cheezoholic]

12. Unfortunately our privatized prison system creates more criminals

than it reforms. These people are ideologically brainwashed and there are plenty of the right wing fascists, the truly violent ones, in the places they were sent to protect and praise them. They aren't isolated, they still can see the information they want to see on the outside. I'm not saying all of them but Im willing to bet a good chunk of them are being converted into even more extreme and violent incarnations of their already twisted ideologies.

[MayReasonRule]

32. "Delusionals" always produce further delusions, no matter where they reside...

Locked up's much better than free and outside!

What you purport though does largely hold true, de-indoctrination ain't easy to do.

It requires willingness, from those so afflicted, which I dare say won't happen, they're totally grifted.

May reason rule.

[Maraya1969]

16. I read somewhere that in one of the jails they are kept together

And every day they gather in the TV room, say the Pledge of Allegiance and watch Fox News. It is like the indoctrination continues.

[calimary]

20. The prison should take Pox Noise OFF its cable system.

All it does is further indoctrinate. Prisoners like these cannot be allowed to keep getting their "fix."

[Maraya1969]

41. +1000000

[Scrivener7]

31. The Beer Hall Putsch did not thwart Hitler. Instead it solidified his power.

Much as you describe.

[DemocraticPatriot]

9. If they broke the law on Jan-6---

let them face the consequences....

amen

[usaf-vet]

14. All I want for my 76 birthday in 11 days. Is to hear that the treasonous FORMER POTUS is.....

.... has been indicted. I hope this treasonous a$$hole will face any and all charges that could put him in prison for the rest of his greedy, lying existence.

He has avoided justice for too long. Let's rid the country of this evil.

Three generations of this family have taken the Oath!

To..."Support and Defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

It is way past time to rid this country of this Domestic threat, including the threat from his evil children.

[electric_blue68]

15. I toss my hat in. My 7-0 BD is in 5 days 34 mins. An indictment of (former)President Donald J Trump.

would make a wonderful "bigger picture" BD present. 🎁


I'd prefer DA Willis, but I'll take anything to get the ball rolling so to speak. 👍 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

[agingdem]

19. My 75th is in August...

I would prefer Garland/Smith indict the malignant sociopath for sedition/treason..of all the unfathomable hell he rained down on us, plotting a coup/inciting a violent murderous insurrection demands a reckoning first and then Georgia's "perfect phone call"...

[electric_blue68]

25. Sometimes J6 feels like a Surreal imposition of another Timeline...

but it's not. 😔

[agingdem]

27. we tend to bundle J6 with Trump's

never-ending atrocities but it is separate..it stands alone..

[electric_blue68]

28. It truly does...

I woke up very late 2Pish, and it had already started but not yet that widespread in the news here...

The posts were still more on Warnock and Osoff but very soon altered, and multiple OPs suddenly appeared about the attack on The Capital.

[calimary]

21. My 70th is later this year.

I know what I want for my birthday! A whole day watching the news about trump getting a nice big juicy indictment. Or several!

[electric_blue68]

26. Wouldn't that be great!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

18. This makes me smile

[bucolic_frolic]

22. A thousand MAGAts a year on the wall, a thousand MAGAts a year ..........

[ancianita]

29. The DOJ is giving a heads up to the new chief judge of the DC court, James E. Boasberg.

Chief judge, Beryl A. Howell's term ends this week.
The new chief judge, James E. Boasberg, takes over the second-floor offices at the courthouse — and a key behind-the-scenes role overseeing the grand jury that is hearing testimony in the Trump investigation.

The two jurists will hold a passing-the-gavel ceremony on Friday, dropping Judge Boasberg into tangled disputes over executive privilege and other grand jury issues central to the federal special counsel investigation into the events surrounding Jan. 6, along with Mr. Trump’s handling of classified documents after leaving office.

There is no obvious reason to believe that the turnover will bring a major new approach: Both are experienced jurists and Obama appointees, and in handing down sentences to ordinary Jan. 6 defendants, neither has been a particularly harsh nor usually lenient outlier.

Still, as their colleague Judge Randolph D. Moss noted, analyzing what the turnover could mean for oversight of the investigation is hard because “even the other judges on the court don’t have much of an insight into what has been going on in the grand jury.”

But some word has filtered out from the grand jury room that Judge Howell dispatched with claims of privilege that Mr. Trump mounted in an unsuccessful attempt to block testimony by two aides to former Vice President Mike Pence, Greg Jacob and Marc Short. (Judge Howell recently rejected a request by The New York Times and Politico to unseal her executive privilege rulings and associated materials related to the Jan. 6 grand jury.)

The turnover comes at a particularly delicate time for Mr. Trump, who -- in addition to the federal investigations being overseen by Jack Smith, the special counsel -- faces possible indictment soon on unrelated state charges in New York, and is also under scrutiny by a prosecutor in Georgia examining efforts to reverse his election loss there.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/13/us/politics/trump-judge-james-boasberg.html

[CTyankee]

42. Yes, please. Thank you!