Romney Claims He Lost Because of Obama "Gifts"
Source: New York Times
A week after losing the presidential election to President Obama, Mitt Romney blamed his overwhelming electoral loss on what he said were big gifts that the president had bestowed on loyal Democratic constituencies including young voters, African-Americans and Hispanics.
In a conference call on Wednesday afternoon with his national finance committee, Mr. Romney said that the president had followed the old playbook of wooing specific interest groups especially the African-American community, the Hispanic community and young people, Mr. Romney explained with targeted gifts and initiatives.
Read more: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/romney-blames-loss-on-obamas-gifts-to-minorities-and-young-voters/
I was sort of feeling sorry for the guy, until I read this.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)I guess that his promises to the rich, and brain dead, that taxes would not change, or be lowered were something quite different. The man surely has no shame. Jim
SoapLovah
(23 posts)He's a racist tool. Was, is and will be.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)But he definitely is clueless and out of touch.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:17 AM - Edit history (1)
well he is an out and out racist. All the dog whistles of free stuff, phones ect during campaign. His whole campaign was geared to white low information voters, not minorities at all in any respect. His religion has racist doctrine still adhered to even though in 1979 they allowed that black people had souls and could go heaven, thank kolob! I'd be willing to bet that the reason they changed this doctrine is because they were facing lawsuits. Please, not a racist per se???? Right. You are entitled. Oopps I'm sorry I used that entitlement word that only the lazy 47% expect.
jsmithutes
(3 posts)The federal government was threatening to take away the mormons tax exempt status. One vision from god later, and black's can hold the priesthood. I haven't read the fine print to see if they are allowed in heaven. Mormons are famous for telling what they think you want to hear. (See Mitt Romney). Jim
SoapLovah
(23 posts)toddmiller
(75 posts)Walter Lippmann said that public minds should be herded like cows which Romney endorses with his Romnesia and his view on the 47% tape that he liked the way his Chinese women worker slaves making $1.35/hr working 80 hours a week were grateful for their work.
And remember he had a whole room of like-minded millionaires that were supporting his views on the 47% tape. Plutocrats like Romney and the Koch Brothers truly believe they deserve everything and ordinary people deserve no more than cows get and these people fund the GOP.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)and that's worse than being personally bigoted.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)I just don't like to use the racist label lightly. It's a serious charge and I think it gets overused.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)overused??? Go to utube and bring up Obama comments during the election season. See if you think the nword is overused in this country. See if dog whistle politics was not overused? There is a large group of RACISTS in this country and thank god I know where most are now because of this election and the color of our POTUS. This and a few other sites are the only savings grace for me in making the judgement that there still are reasonable, rational people out there with a different skin color than most minorities. Women of all racial persuasions saw mittshit for the person he is and that contributed in a large way toward the victory we had, so, when and if our group is overwhelmed with the racial hate out there in the land of the free and home of the brave I hope I'll be dead and gone. Mittshit tried to stir the melting pot to see if the "cream" would rise to the top, but this time the mix held. Next time? Who knows.
Heywood J
(2,515 posts)That made him a believer in the "curse of Cain" bullshit.
madaboutharry
(40,219 posts)One of the main characteristic of a sociopath.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)So it's unfair to promise to invest in education and wide-spread health? Compared to tax breaks for the already really wealthy? Old fashioned democracy at work, no wonder Obama won.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)did so for any reason other than deep, altruistic and genuine concern for the fate of the Nation?
For shame!
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)For repeating fox news and rush limbaugh.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Sometime soon would be nice.
Basically, Romney is the Mormon Thomas Dewey.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Guess I was wrong. What a sore loser. And I mean LOSER.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Be attractive to his core constituency without screwing up the country which is what Obama did and did so proudly.
Much better than giving gifts of tax cuts to the rich and deregulation of the crooks as Romney's proposed gifts which end up hurting the country.
Qutzupalotl
(14,327 posts)except a brilliant president who will do right by the people.
And that old white guy (Romney) will never understand why I supported Obama. So long, you arrogant, self-centered prick. Enjoy your unemployment.
Arkansas Granny
(31,528 posts)You know, that 47%.
msongs
(67,440 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,528 posts)NICO9000
(970 posts)That such a bald-faced liar could get within spitting distance of the White House is a goddamn disgrace. Everyone in this country who voted for this scumbag should just sign the secession petitions and leave us reasonable people to decide our own destiny.
I said for months he was a sociopath and this is just the icing on the cake. If you look at checklist for sociopathy, Mittens ticked off way too many boxes for my liking.
lumpy
(13,704 posts)political party, has sunk to such depths that they would nominate a bare-faced liar, greedy, ignorant low-life for the office of president.
daleo
(21,317 posts)Though you would have to add a few more adjectives, like war Mongerer.
thucythucy
(8,086 posts)at least not since Reconstruction.
Before the Bush's and Reagan you had Nixon, whose "Southern strategy" appealed directly to white racists, who used the IRS to harass political opponents, who prolonged the Vietnam war and invaded two other countries (Laos, Cambodia), who overthrew the democratically elected government of Chile, who started "the war on drugs," etc. etc.
Before Nixon we had Eisenhower, who was silent in the face of McCarthyism (Joseph McCarthy R-Wisconsin), who overthrew the democratically elected governments of Guatemala and Iran, leading to brutal dictatorships in both nations, planned the Bay of Pigs, hugely accelerated the arms race (it was only at the END of his term did he warn us about the military-industrial complex he did so much to create), and appointed a red-baiting sociopath (Richard Nixon) to be his vice president.
Before Eisenhower was Dewey, who ran campaigns in 1944 and 1948 that accused Democrats of trying to overthrow American democracy and replace it with communism--who in 1944 ran a campaign that accused FDR of wanting to establish a monarchy, criticised his war leadership, etc. Among the GOP's strongest supporters back then were folks like the Jew-baiting, race-hating Father Coughlin, the Rush Limbaugh of his time.
Before Dewey we had Harding-Coolidge-Hoover. Hoover was a fairly decent businessman who was clueless about dealing with the depression--but I'll admit he was a humanitarian (did great things relieving hunger in Europe post WWI). Coolidge made his reputation as a union busting pro-business hack ("The business of America is business" . Harding was so corrupt ("Teapot Dome" he would probably have been impeached if he hadn't died in office.
Even TR--who was progressive in some respects--was a believer in eugenics, imperialism and "the white man's burden" and waged a brutal counter-insurgency to keep control of the Philippines after we took that region from Spain.
Andrew Johnson WAS impeached--for defying progressive Republicans in Congress and pandering to the sensibilities of the southern racist oligarchy who launched the Civil War.
I'm not saying Democratic history was all roses--especially not the southern wing of the party up until the 1970s--but the GOP record for the most part is not what I would call "fairly decent." I WOULD be willing to say that until recently it had managed to keep its worst elements from completely dominating its establishment and national agenda, but that's about as far as I'd be willing to go.
I guess all things are relative. And so I would agree that, relatively speaking, this GOP is the worst it's been since, say, 1932.
PS: I left out Reagan and the Bushes, figuring their administrations were all recent enough not to need any elaboration here.
MurrayDelph
(5,301 posts)ethics, honesty, loyalty, consistency, and likability.
Blue4Texas
(437 posts)lumpy
(13,704 posts)n
lyingsackofmitt
(105 posts)you lying sack of shit, just go fuck yourself!
heaven05
(18,124 posts)struggle4progress
(118,334 posts)It doesn't have a car elevator yet, but I think it will when I take possession
Bucky
(54,065 posts)Nika
(546 posts)And of course the lies continue, he knows no other way to operate.
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)A penniless, powerless labor force?
Cue the DU "Cry Me A River" String Quartet!
rocktivity
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)No doubt, Romney shit himself over that.
Duval
(4,280 posts)Rob H.
(5,352 posts)Including one huge one that Mitt seemed to forget about completely: people who don't like shameless, flip-flopping liars. I hear there are a fair few of us out there.
Caeser67
(156 posts)"Gifts" Are.
srican69
(1,426 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Those are the 'Gifts' that Obama has that Romney and Ryan SORELY lacked
Smilo
(1,944 posts)1. He will be our President for the next four years and continue to get things done.
2. He beat you.
Oh and Mitt - I am not from the African American or Hispanic community and am definitely not a young person, but President Obama can woo me any time
zwyziec
(173 posts)Ineeda
(3,626 posts)he HAZ them. Gifts like intelligence, compassion, humanity to name a few. rMoney lacks those gifts, as we clearly saw. Buh bye, loser.
Lars77
(3,032 posts)lumpy
(13,704 posts)The only "special interest groups", I can think of, are the obscenely wealthy. Way past time to give up differentuating between citizens of the US.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)and freedoms from the WHITE power structure. Interesting that Mitt is mouthing O'Reilly's theories.
frylock
(34,825 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)what is this country coming to when you can't even buy a simple presidential election because your opponent had convinced too many people to vote for him.
Lets face it, this Romney gut couldn't buy an erection, let alone an election.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)Mitt Romney himself. He was his own worst political enemy.
Sam
Anthony McCarthy
(507 posts)TBF
(32,090 posts)Anthony McCarthy
(507 posts)about African-Americans and Latinos from things like Birth of a Nation?
They're doubling down on the racism, the code language.
Mitt, McCain is still a bitter loser, hating the fact that he was bested by a black man. It's so unattractive when that happens.
lumpy
(13,704 posts)n
diabeticman
(3,121 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)goclark
(30,404 posts)Cry yourself to sleep everynight.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)The majority of Americans didn't like you because of your lies and shit...
And NOW, even less Americans are gonna like you!
Shut the Fuck up and go away.
(...I'm predicting another new low for the Pukes and Baggers...RMoney is NOT going away...they will pony him out in front of the cameras at every chance, to criticize the President. Another new name for Mittens, No Shame Romney.)
lumpy
(13,704 posts)n
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)He probably cheated as far back as when he played GO FISH.
liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)With the delusions of his supporters.
horsedoc
(81 posts)What a tool!! How about the "gifts" your Daddy gave you? You didnt have to work very hard like most of the "47%"
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Those are Obama's gifts.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Andy Stanton
(264 posts)John2
(2,730 posts)I didn't get my gift?
kennetha
(3,666 posts)He's basically repeating his slur of Obama voters as the 47%. He's basically saying Obama voters are takers not makers, people looking for hand-outs. What an out of touch jerk. So glad he was defeated. Can't think of a less worthy candidate. And I love the invincible blindness of him and his cronies not seeing it coming. Makes his defeat all the sweeter.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)That's both the blessing and the curse of the Democratic establishment mindset all wrapped up in one frustrating example...
on point
(2,506 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,879 posts)Take that magic underwear and shove it up your ass Mitt the Loser!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11872356
truthisfreedom
(23,154 posts)of his party, and Obama saw to it that they were taken care of. Without that help, they might not have made it. He bitterly calls it "gifts" but what he's really saying is that his polices were not aimed at the new America, only directed at the old right whities.
qwlauren35
(6,150 posts)The executive order to give status to "Dreamers" was aimed at the Hispanic community, and it worked.
Pell Grants and lower interest on student loans help middle-income young people. I'm okay with that.
Not sure what he think Obama did for our (black) community.
Romney can call it however he wants. The bottom line is that he lost. And that huge donations from fat cats Lost.
And that makes me very happy.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Citizens United is a legal way for any rich person in trouble with the law to buy a pardon.
DaveJ
(5,023 posts)"Gifts" are stock dividends that the rich receive just for sitting on their butts.
These assholes are motivated by the "what's in it for me", "least work for the most reward" mentality.
Obama voters just want a fair country where they have shot at success in exchange for their hard work.
dawn frenzy adams
(429 posts)Gifts? You're the one receiving gifts, Romney, with your millions in wealth without paying taxes.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)Go, begone, and good riddance.
Mdterp01
(144 posts)So he wasn't "wrong" as he claimed about his 47% remarks. Fall back douchebag!!! YOU LOST!!!
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)...Democratic presidents aren't ALLOWED to do that...WAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!"
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)If Romney keeps talking, he'll eventually say something that's true. But not yet.
AnnaLee
(1,041 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)David__77
(23,500 posts)"You won't have Nixon to kick around any more," but so much worse.
And make no mistake, the real insult here is aimed not at Obama at all, but rather at the people themselves.
tanyev
(42,610 posts)Go get your hearing tested, Mittens.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)But apparently the 47% wasn't a gaffe...it's what he truly believes.
For the record, I think Obama probably could have won even without Romney's gaffes, but I'm not 100% sure of that. Even though I think he deserved re-election, the narrative that took hold was that he didn't. I hate the way the post-election spin has been all about what Romney did wrong and not about the fact that maybe, just maybe, the majority of Americans thought the president deserved another four years.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)compared to the $$$$$$$$$$$$ his billionaire buddies were spewing to sway the election.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Most of his votes were from racists. A small percentage were part of the 1%. The rest were just plain stupid.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)That is a pretty extreme statement. I know several people at my school who voted for Romney and I don't consider any of them racist. Like it or not, some people do legitimately believe in unregulated markets and believe that the right to keep more of your paycheck is more important than maintaining a social safety net. Obviously, I believe in the social safety net or I wouldn't be here. But there are legitimate arguments on the other side and we don't do anyone any favors by writing off all or "most" of the people who don't agree with us as racist or stupid.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Based on your anecdotal evidence, not much racism. Based on my anecdotal evidence, lots. Truth is in the middle of, course, so I'm willing to concede "Many of his votes"
Bottom line, not many voted for HIM, they voted against something else.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)But I am not prepared to say that Obama's race was the reason most people opposed him. Some, sure, but many of them wouldn't have voted Democratic anyway.
Interestingly, in the 2008 exit poll, people who said the race of the candidate was a factor in their vote were actually more likely to have voted for Obama than those who said it was not a factor. Of course, people for whom it was a negative factor were probably less likely to say so, but it was surprising how many people said it was a positive factor.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)friends like yours I don't need any enemies. The whole campaign...ohh never mind. Mittshit, Murdock, Akins, Walsh, lost for racist, sexist, anti-veteran remarks. Remember 47%. All or most who voted for mittshit were, to be nice about, intellectually challenged.
Red Mountain
(1,737 posts)The majority voting in their best interests and all.
Who'd have thought it would come to that?
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)harun
(11,348 posts)In a Democracy 1% doesn't mean much though.
srichardson
(81 posts)Romney lost Bc of Obama's gift of loving all Americans, of fighting for a fair chance for everyone, of his ability to see beyond skin color, of forgiving those who hate him and especially of not lowering hmself to their juvenile level.
Apologies to those who texted similiar posts. Just had to make this point.
Edited to add: don't forget the gift so my daughter can go to college wo acquiring insurmountable debt she would never be able to pay off. And could I not go on and on and on.
Jim__
(14,083 posts)DallasNE
(7,403 posts)One guess would be the extension of low interest loans for college students. But those have been around for a long time. Another would be the executive order on part of the Dream Act but George W. Bush was also for that. Besides, a lot of Republicans have changed their tune on that since the election. Maybe it was bailing out the auto industry. But Romney claimed that Obama stole his plan. I'm looking for what those gifts are that Romney is so upset with but I'm coming up blank. The term that comes to mind to explain Romney here is "sore loser".
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)And for what it's worth, I would like to point out that grad students got no gifts. In fact, I got an unpleasant surprise this year when I looked at my student loans and discovered that the $8,500 subsidized Stafford loan had been completely eliminated for grad students.
Needless to say I still voted for Obama.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)DallasNE
(7,403 posts)And I didn't want to burn one of those on this because I could pretty much guess what he was talking about if he indeed listed the "gifts".
Turns out my anticipation was pretty darn good. And his points were pretty darn weak as he repeated his 47% argument. So much for learning lessons.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)only money.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Momgonepostal
(2,872 posts)ZERO gifts! And I voted for Obama! Total ripoff!
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)when they eliminated the subsidized Stafford loans for grad students.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)maybe you voted for the wrong person. I'm sure if mittshit had won, you and your friends would have got everything you desired.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)But I certainly don't think he would have done a better job on the issue. Even if I did, I still would have voted for Obama. I don't vote solely on what the government does for me personally - that was the point I was trying to make.
RobinA
(9,894 posts)and I have yet to see a gift. And I was originally a Hillary supporter who thinks NONE of them are anywhere near liberal enough. I would think I would get a gift just for voting this time around, since I wasn't going to vote at all until the "PA is in play" meme got going in the last couple weeks.
athena
(4,187 posts)I volunteered in PA, just to get voters like you to vote for Obama.
Please continue to vote. Never assume that your vote doesn't count. Even in a blue state, your vote adds to the popular vote. Furthermore, there may be congressional or local candidates who need your vote.
athena
(4,187 posts)The 47% comment was very revealing, but I didn't feel personally insulted by it because I pay income taxes. Moreover, the statement was obviously false: clearly, many people who don't pay income taxes vote Republican, and many people who vote Democratic pay income taxes.
The statement about gifts, on the other hand, I found extremely offensive. I volunteered for the Obama campaign. I made more than a thousand calls and knocked on more than 300 doors. I donated as much as I could afford, and I took an unpaid day to get out the vote on election day. I got no gifts in return, other than the pleasure of seeing the President re-elected, nor did I expect any. In fact, my husband and I together are earning enough this year to be in the income tax bracket that will have its tax rate increased. I find the suggestion that Obama won essentially by bribing people extremely insulting on a personal level.
If anything, Romney wooed his wealthy voters with promises of major tax breaks if he got elected. If anyone was offering "gifts", it was Romney.
I shudder to think that this guy could have been president today.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Robme is a perfect case of projection. Make it an example in Psychology 101 text books. That will make him famous for years to come.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)I can't say that I disagree with the Governor.
But if he's talking about civil rights, he's mistaken since they're not gifts. It's our birthright as Americans.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Obama is a gifted politician...I will give him that.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)is the gift of a sane and responsible govt.
BigAnth
(320 posts)question everything
(47,532 posts)33Greeper
(188 posts)5 Stages of Grief, Republican Style:
--1. Whining
--2. Signing up for secession
--3. Buying extra ammo
--4. Drinking Bud and flinging stuff
--5. Falling asleep watching Fox