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Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:56 PM Nov 2012

Heineman (Gov.R-NE) opts for federal health insurance exchange

Source: Omaha World Herald

By Martha Stoddard

LINCOLN — Gov. Dave Heineman announced Thursday he has opted to go with a federal health insurance exchange.

The governor's decision came down to money, with Heineman saying a state exchange would cost Nebraska taxpayers $470 million more than a federal exchange.

“I want to share with Nebraskans that I have listened to all sides of this issue,” he said in a press statement. “As governor, my focus is on implementing the federal health care law in the most efficient and cost effective manner for Nebraskans and their families.”

Whether the state or federal government runs the exchange, he said, all citizens will have the option to purchase insurance policies through an exchange.


FULL story at link.



Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20121115/LIVEWELL03/711169995/1718

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Heineman (Gov.R-NE) opts for federal health insurance exchange (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2012 OP
We're going to have Universal Health Care before the (R)s know what hit 'em. nt DCKit Nov 2012 #1
Indeed! Bibliovore Nov 2012 #15
doesn't seem like too many states are going to set up their own exhange dlwickham Nov 2012 #2
TAKERS TAKERS TAKERS!!!!!! RandySF Nov 2012 #3
Democrats shoot---and they score! Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #4
"It came down to money." - D'oh. Stupid Republicans Berlum Nov 2012 #5
Why is it so much more expensive for states to set up their exchanges? blueclown Nov 2012 #6
I don't know that it's actually more expensive drm604 Nov 2012 #9
Or the difference between setting up 51+ exchanges, or just one. DCKit Nov 2012 #10
bigger groups, less risk, less cost CreekDog Nov 2012 #12
Thanks! DCKit Nov 2012 #18
These are "exchanges" blueclown Nov 2012 #22
the insurance offered through the exchanges can be a big group since it's offered nationally CreekDog Nov 2012 #25
Each state does run its own Medicaid program blueclown Nov 2012 #23
ding ding ccavagnolo Nov 2012 #11
There are some positive comments here Name Unpronounceable Nov 2012 #7
If you make less than $30,000 a year the federal Government will subsidize your coverage. Bandit Nov 2012 #16
but how much does it cost? mrf901 Nov 2012 #19
If you can not afford it the Government will step in and make sure you get it Bandit Nov 2012 #24
I don't see any of that happening mrf901 Nov 2012 #28
Thinking about this, why would any state not go for the federal exchange? drm604 Nov 2012 #8
because they hate the feds more than they care for their people Skittles Nov 2012 #14
Is Texas setting up a state exchange? drm604 Nov 2012 #17
LOL Skittles Nov 2012 #21
Exactly my point. drm604 Nov 2012 #26
aw, Perry screams about the feds, then requests federal disaster aid for the hurricanes Skittles Nov 2012 #27
what does an exchange do? mrf901 Nov 2012 #20
THANK-YOU GOVERNOR HEINEMAN FOR STANDING UP TO AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! justice1 Nov 2012 #13

Bibliovore

(185 posts)
15. Indeed!
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:39 PM
Nov 2012

While it doesn't yet go as far as many of us would like, the Affordable Care Act really is, as Biden put it, a big fucking deal -- not least of which because it should wind up changing minds toward taking it further. 8)

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
5. "It came down to money." - D'oh. Stupid Republicans
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:14 PM
Nov 2012

All the Republican tantrums have been pointless. Just putting their godforsaken corrupt degenerate party for fatcats above the interests of America and the American people.

Now that they are all LOSERS, they are only too happy to agree to what is sensible.

Ye gads, Republicans are a Curse Upon America.

blueclown

(1,869 posts)
6. Why is it so much more expensive for states to set up their exchanges?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:22 PM
Nov 2012

Is that the power of the private sector at work?

drm604

(16,230 posts)
9. I don't know that it's actually more expensive
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:28 PM
Nov 2012

it's just that, when a state opts for the federal exchange, the money isn't coming out of their budget, it's coming out of federal dollars.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
10. Or the difference between setting up 51+ exchanges, or just one.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:32 PM
Nov 2012

Does each state run its own Medicare program? SS? Dept of Defense? FEMA?

It's not a difficult concept.

blueclown

(1,869 posts)
22. These are "exchanges"
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:34 AM
Nov 2012

They are providing a marketplace to purchase insurance, not actually providing insurance.

I'm not sure how your example applies. I would assume the framework for creating these "marketplaces" - the information systems, the protocols, training the personel - I am sure that is where most of the cost is coming from.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
25. the insurance offered through the exchanges can be a big group since it's offered nationally
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:59 PM
Nov 2012

in theory a statewide exchange is going to be more limited in size than a product on a national exchange.

blueclown

(1,869 posts)
23. Each state does run its own Medicaid program
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:36 AM
Nov 2012

That is how the program was designed.

Your examples the Department of Defense and FEMA don't apply - and the DOD example is particularly egregious. Defense is one of the major functions of our federal government; it is one of its enumerated powers.

7. There are some positive comments here
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:24 PM
Nov 2012

and that's good and promising. I don't really understand the ins and outs of these stories relating to the health care law, though. I've tried to Google "Obamacare will lead to public option or single-payer" but all I get back are scare tactics bs from way back in 2010 about how the Marxist Kenyan is taking away our freedoms. I've read somewhere on this website a few months ago that there is some hidden clause or something like that that will lead to some kind of single-payer. Is this just wishful thinking or is it real? I've looked up some health insurance premiums for my state and the premiums are ridiculous. $2,000 a month? 3,000? And to qualify for a Medicaid program, you have to earn less than 700 dollars a month? How can someone who makes a few pennies more than that all of a sudden not be considered poor? How can someone who makes 1,000 a month afford to pay for health care on top of food, rent, clothes?

It seems like there is good feeling around that maybe something good will come of this. It's a start. But will it really lead to a single-payer option? How will that go about?

So far, so good, in any case. First, the unthinkable happened when Roberts decided to vote with the reasonable faction of the court. Then (thankfully), Obama won the election, keeping Romney and Ryan out with their detestable ideas about the poor taking care of themselves and the sick getting better by sheer will power (or whatever the hell they think).

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
16. If you make less than $30,000 a year the federal Government will subsidize your coverage.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:48 PM
Nov 2012

They can't and don't expect you to spend every penny you make on just Private Health Insurance...That is why it is a good deal for many if not most Americans...

 

mrf901

(49 posts)
19. but how much does it cost?
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:13 AM
Nov 2012

I know lots of people who take home
$250 a week.

it is not possible for them
to pay $1000 a month.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
24. If you can not afford it the Government will step in and make sure you get it
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:20 AM
Nov 2012

That is what this is all about. Thirty miilion people that did not have health insurance will now get it....If you work for a company that employs more than fifty people then that company has to provide it, if you don't and make less than $30,000 a year the Government will provide it for you..That is the big "gift" Romney was talking about to get votes for Obama..

 

mrf901

(49 posts)
28. I don't see any of that happening
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:29 AM
Nov 2012

what I do see is ...
companies will limit hours to less than 30 a week
companies will split up into smaller companies

not seen yet, but antcipated...
companies will pay a $2000 fine

drm604

(16,230 posts)
8. Thinking about this, why would any state not go for the federal exchange?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:26 PM
Nov 2012

I'm thinking that this was done on purpose so that no state could legitimately complain about a federal takeover, because they do have the option of a state exchange, but they'd all opt for the federal exchange to save money.

Of course the ironic result of that is that the wealthier states, mostly blue, end up carrying most of the burden for everyone, and the red states are once again the takers.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
14. because they hate the feds more than they care for their people
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:39 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:06 AM - Edit history (1)

reference Texas as an example

drm604

(16,230 posts)
26. Exactly my point.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 04:07 PM
Nov 2012

He says he hates the feds but he's letting them take responsibility for the exchange rather than the state. It's hypocritical.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
27. aw, Perry screams about the feds, then requests federal disaster aid for the hurricanes
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 04:11 PM
Nov 2012

there is no limit to the hypocrisy of republicans - NO LIMIT

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