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brooklynite

(94,592 posts)
Sat May 13, 2023, 11:36 PM May 2023

Tory anarchy breaks out as revolt looms on Brexit laws

Source: The Guardian

Rishi Sunak was losing control of an increasingly anarchic Tory party on Saturday as former cabinet ministers openly criticised the direction of policy under his leadership and dozens of backbench MPs plotted a new rebellion over Brexit.

Amid recriminations over the heavy Conservative losses in recent council elections, and with pro-Brexit MPs incensed that Sunak’s government is dropping plans to shred more than 4,000 EU laws within months, discipline was at risk of completely disintegrating on the right of the party.

Speaking at the inaugural conference of the pro-Boris Johnson Conservative Democratic Organisation (CDO) in Bournemouth on Saturday, former home secretary Priti Patel suggested the party’s high command under Sunak was responsible for the losses.

In a clear swipe at those now in charge, she said some senior figures at Westminster had “done a better job at damaging our party” over the past year than Labour. She also criticised MPs for removing Johnson, saying they had overseen the “ousting of our most electorally successful prime minister since Margaret Thatcher”.



Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/13/tory-anarchy-breaks-out-as-revolt-looms-on-brexit-laws
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Tory anarchy breaks out as revolt looms on Brexit laws (Original Post) brooklynite May 2023 OP
Of course it couldn't be the disaster they've wrought with brexit and the chickens coming home. bullimiami May 2023 #1
Fuck Johnson and fuck Thatcher. roamer65 May 2023 #2
Can you imagine how happy they could be, if they just stopped voting Tory? Grokenstein May 2023 #3
Cons: "We lost bc our policies suck, but let's blame the leadership for losing!" Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #4
Cognitive dissonance Javaman May 2023 #5
Accountability is kryptonite to the conservative. Dawson Leery May 2023 #10
and the solution? stopdiggin May 2023 #6
I live here Layzeebeaver May 2023 #7
Labour seems to have fallen apart since Corbyn. Happy Hoosier May 2023 #12
That depends on what you think the party is for muriel_volestrangler May 2023 #13
I hop-e they go for the majority. Happy Hoosier May 2023 #14
So in what sense do you think they've "fallen apart"? (nt) muriel_volestrangler May 2023 #15
They've had a hard time coelescing around... Happy Hoosier May 2023 #16
I hear they are going to bring in Kevin McCarthy and Gym Jordan as consultants. yellowcanine May 2023 #8
Hahahahahahahahaha not fooled May 2023 #9
Listen England edhopper May 2023 #11

bullimiami

(13,096 posts)
1. Of course it couldn't be the disaster they've wrought with brexit and the chickens coming home.
Sat May 13, 2023, 11:40 PM
May 2023

Nope must be Sunak.

Grokenstein

(5,725 posts)
3. Can you imagine how happy they could be, if they just stopped voting Tory?
Sun May 14, 2023, 12:27 AM
May 2023

But I can't really judge them, because I'm an American and we've also got a bad case of stupidvoteritis that still afflicts too many people.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
4. Cons: "We lost bc our policies suck, but let's blame the leadership for losing!"
Sun May 14, 2023, 05:31 AM
May 2023

Like the rump and McCarthy blame everybody except their own sucky policies.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
6. and the solution?
Sun May 14, 2023, 10:22 AM
May 2023

'we need to bring back the corrupt piece of sh*t .. '

ugly people don't know nothin' but ugly ---- ----

Layzeebeaver

(1,624 posts)
7. I live here
Sun May 14, 2023, 11:56 AM
May 2023

it's a shit-show

and Labour can't get it's shit together to save itself. (Idiots!)

Putin didn't need to engineer Brexit, the Tories were more than capable of making it happen.

It's all about "the city", and establishing unrestricted movement of capital without tax implications.

Fuck the little guy... Fuck society... Fuck the future....

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
13. That depends on what you think the party is for
Mon May 15, 2023, 11:13 AM
May 2023

It still has a lead of about 15 points in opinion polls: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election

and is still an odds-on favourite to get a majority in the next election: https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics

Now, you may feel that they aren't aiming for a sufficiently left-wing set of policies. But it's a matter of opinion whether a "properly together party" should be aiming for a majority win, or should be aiming for "the policies I like best".

Happy Hoosier

(7,314 posts)
14. I hop-e they go for the majority.
Mon May 15, 2023, 11:46 AM
May 2023

It is impossible to advance policies when they are not in power.

Far too many on the left make that mistake. It might feel morally superior to be "correct" on the issues, but it means sweet FA if you can't do anythig about it. But I tend to be a political realist.

Happy Hoosier

(7,314 posts)
16. They've had a hard time coelescing around...
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:51 PM
May 2023

a set of principles and a charismatic leader, though I think Starmer has the party headed in the right direction. I think he could take a general election if it were held soon enough, I just thibnk the Corbyn stink is lingering. I expect the Tories will delay it as long as they can. They KNOW they are in trouble.

edhopper

(33,584 posts)
11. Listen England
Sun May 14, 2023, 06:41 PM
May 2023

(because those were the ones who voted for Brexit) you shit your own bed, You want someone to blame, look in the mirror and think about who and what you vote for. As a great Speaker of the House said, "elections have consequences."
This is the opposite of your finest hour.

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