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BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
Mon May 22, 2023, 12:10 PM May 2023

Space station welcomes 2 Saudi visitors, including kingdom's 1st female astronaut

Source: ABC News

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- The International Space Station rolled out the welcome mat Monday for two Saudi visitors, including the kingdom's first female astronaut.

SpaceX's chartered flight arrived at the orbiting lab less than 16 hours after blasting off from Florida. The four guests will spend just over a week there, before returning to Earth in their capsule.

The 270-mile-high (430-kilometer-high) docking puts the space station population at 11, representing not only Saudi Arabia and the U.S., but the United Arab Emirates and Russia. .

Saudi Arabia's government is picking up the multimillion-dollar tab for its first female astronaut, Rayyanah Barnawi, a stem cell researcher, and fighter pilot Ali al-Qarni. John Shoffner, a Knoxville, Tennessee, businessman who started a car racing team, is paying his own way. Retired NASA astronaut Peggy Whitson is their chaperone. She now works for Axiom Space, the Houston company that organized the 10-day trip, its second to the space station.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/space-station-welcomes-2-saudi-visitors-including-kingdoms-99508379





She was literally bubbling over.

There are now 11 people on the station including 3 Russian cosmonauts (the 3 at the bottom row center-right in the screencap). The cosmonauts are supposed to depart in September, and that will be it for Russia on the station.
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Space station welcomes 2 Saudi visitors, including kingdom's 1st female astronaut (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2023 OP
Is she wearing head covering in space? pandr32 May 2023 #1
Yup she is BumRushDaShow May 2023 #3
Hmm Polybius May 2023 #6
She's not wearing a hijab, which is "formal" BumRushDaShow May 2023 #8
Excellent pictures that show it more clearly. pandr32 May 2023 #11
I have some/a couple muslim families as neighbors BumRushDaShow May 2023 #12
So many seem to accept it and see it as part of their identity. pandr32 May 2023 #14
It appears specially designed for her uniform. pandr32 May 2023 #10
Probably BumRushDaShow May 2023 #13
You are likely correct about the at home audience. pandr32 May 2023 #15
The company that sponsored these astronauts (U.S. company Axiom Space) BumRushDaShow May 2023 #18
Head covering or not... pandr32 May 2023 #22
True BumRushDaShow May 2023 #23
Undoubtedly, the hijab isn't that difficult to maintain in zero gravity Warpy May 2023 #5
It's not a hijab BumRushDaShow May 2023 #9
the Saudi Space twitter account shows her without head covering mainer May 2023 #2
She definitely has one on up there right now BumRushDaShow May 2023 #4
3 trained astronauts and a boob from Knoxville as ballast? paleotn May 2023 #7
Yep..... it pisses me off that rich tourists are using the ISS as their playground groundloop May 2023 #16
Well 3 of the 4 are astronauts, scientists, and/or military BumRushDaShow May 2023 #19
Did they come bearing bone saws? Just in case someone says something bad erronis May 2023 #17
This won't be popular but Bird Lady May 2023 #20
Well to put it into perspective BumRushDaShow May 2023 #21
I never claimed we are not what we would want. I would look at your photos and ask yourself Bird Lady May 2023 #24
I'll tell you this goes back to the founding of this country BumRushDaShow May 2023 #25

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
1. Is she wearing head covering in space?
Mon May 22, 2023, 12:20 PM
May 2023

It's weird to think our religious, political, and other world ties extend out to space when we do.
Wouldn't it be great to shed those things as we leave earth and be open to the expanse?

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
3. Yup she is
Mon May 22, 2023, 12:32 PM
May 2023

Seemed to almost appear like a turban as it's not a scarf tied around her neck (but could be a modified scarf tied like a turban).

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
8. She's not wearing a hijab, which is "formal"
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:00 PM
May 2023


She is wearing something akin to a turban (or scarf tied as one). The above pic was actually caught when she first egressed into the station and was trying to adjust it. She was fiddling with it when she was on the Dragon capsule.

I did a zoom and crop of another pic and you can maybe see it better.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
12. I have some/a couple muslim families as neighbors
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:35 PM
May 2023

and the women do wear hijabs (no hair showing) and one wears a full burka (just an eye slit). Their young daughters wear sortof a modified hijab/scarf that is usually tied in the back while playing outside.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
14. So many seem to accept it and see it as part of their identity.
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:49 PM
May 2023

Patriarchy and religion are hand in hand.
Sigh. We have a long road ahead.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
13. Probably
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:40 PM
May 2023

They were switching back and forth between the NASA & SpaceX command feeds whenever they weren't showing the capsule video (or had lost that video), so I didn't really get to see when she removed her space suit. I expect she didn't have it on while in it as it could have interfered with sensors and whatnot but may have put it on as soon as she took the helmet off. I expect it is being done for her country's viewing audience that insists on austerity (although we know Saudi women don't wear that in the house).

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
15. You are likely correct about the at home audience.
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:51 PM
May 2023

Saudi women are free in their homes, but not in space.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
18. The company that sponsored these astronauts (U.S. company Axiom Space)
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:15 PM
May 2023

had a bio of her and a couple other pics - https://www.axiomspace.com/astronaut/rayyanah-barnawi

You can see what the head-covering looks like much better -



And the training/promotional vid has her in both - the hijab and her modified covering -

Warpy

(111,274 posts)
5. Undoubtedly, the hijab isn't that difficult to maintain in zero gravity
Mon May 22, 2023, 12:53 PM
May 2023

and would keep her hair corralled, but I'm sure she left the full abaya at home.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
4. She definitely has one on up there right now
Mon May 22, 2023, 12:39 PM
May 2023

(have been watching since docking and through to the ceremony)

She's been trying to keep it from moving around in microgravity too much and had to readjust when she did her egress into the station.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
7. 3 trained astronauts and a boob from Knoxville as ballast?
Mon May 22, 2023, 01:46 PM
May 2023

I still don't like the post NASA space program. This isn't a Disney ride like Everest.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
16. Yep..... it pisses me off that rich tourists are using the ISS as their playground
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:04 PM
May 2023

My tax money helped pay for the ISS, it was put up there to conduct science. Why in hell are we letting rich tourists take up valuable time and resources?

This isn't the first time either.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
19. Well 3 of the 4 are astronauts, scientists, and/or military
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:20 PM
May 2023

It's just "the boob from Knoxville" who is the non-specialist.

Bird Lady

(1,819 posts)
20. This won't be popular but
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:33 PM
May 2023

I fail to understand why we play nice with the Saudis. They are a blood thirsty and brutal people, see what they did to the American news man. Not people to trust.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
21. Well to put it into perspective
Mon May 22, 2023, 04:35 PM
May 2023

broad-brushing an entire country's people because of their criminal "royal" (in quotes) family, is no different than doing the same to the U.S. because of what "the U.S. people" (in quotes) have done, if you use that thought process -





Bird Lady

(1,819 posts)
24. I never claimed we are not what we would want. I would look at your photos and ask yourself
Mon May 22, 2023, 07:51 PM
May 2023

Who exactly was in charge when USA started doing those things to prisoners? I'll give you a hint, GWB
Just because other people treat prisoners with such disrespect and care, does not mean
it is acceptable at anytime.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
25. I'll tell you this goes back to the founding of this country
Mon May 22, 2023, 09:37 PM
May 2023

when my ancestors were treated to stuff like this -



or this -



or this -



So when the RW loons whine about "Critical Race Theory", it's obvious that others need some lessons from it as well because this has been going on well before England (as the British Empire) "installed" the Saudi Royal Family as rulers of the current boundaries of trhat country via the Treaties of Darin and Jeddah beginning around the start of WWI and through to the 1930s - https://web.archive.org/web/20160703064040/http://www.ibnsaud.info/main/3338.htm

And as a note, George Floyd's murder from a fucker kneeling on his neck in that last picture, was NOT under "GWB".

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