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highplainsdem

(48,999 posts)
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:21 PM May 2023

AI-generated image of Pentagon explosion causes market drop

Source: The Independent

A fake image of an explosion near the Pentagon in Washington DC, which may have been created using AI technology, caused a brief market selloff.

The image purported to show a large cloud of smoke near the headquarters of the Department of Defense on Monday, and was shared by a string of online accounts on Twitter.

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The image, which Insider says has some characteristics of AI-generated images, was shared by the Twitter account of Russian-state media RT, among others.

The fake explosion was shared by the @Deltaone Twitter account at 10.06am ET, and by 10.10am ET the US stock market had fallen by 0/26 per cent before bouncing back, Insider reported. The account later posted that the explosion picture was fake.

-snip-

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fake-pentagon-explosion-market-drop-b2343709.html



Much more on this in the General Discussion thread at https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217935553 .
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AI-generated image of Pentagon explosion causes market drop (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2023 OP
Oh fu.... Pacifist Patriot May 2023 #1
That was fast... IthinkThereforeIAM May 2023 #2
JFC. I'm never going to be able to retire with these dipshits fucking the markets raw. Comfortably_Numb May 2023 #3
How about these market numbnuts wait for ACTUAL NEWS reports Wingus Dingus May 2023 #4
Because that's not what they were told to do. C Moon May 2023 #12
Buying opportunity. paleotn May 2023 #5
They have algorithms that will pick up stuff out of the ordinary SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #7
Better to target a single company's stock instead of the S&P Shermann May 2023 #8
How long until someone "blows up" some oil infrastructure durablend May 2023 #6
...and so it begins. LudwigPastorius May 2023 #9
That's not the Pentagon. COL Mustard May 2023 #10
People should at least know that the Pentagon is pentagon shaped IronLionZion May 2023 #11
Why am I not at all surprised that Russia is involved? Initech May 2023 #13
Our collective cynicism needs a significant adjustment Prairie_Seagull May 2023 #14
The market drop was cause by fake Twitter accounts reporting this as a real event. honest.abe May 2023 #15
AI has made it much easier. highplainsdem May 2023 #16
Headline is still tenuous at best (nt) Hugh_Lebowski May 2023 #17
You can call it tenuous if you want. Most of the news stories highplainsdem May 2023 #19
I'm calling it that because it is exactly that given the actual case at hand Hugh_Lebowski May 2023 #20
Again, see the GD thread. There were multiple tells that the hoax was highplainsdem May 2023 #21
So AI created the image and created the story entirely of it's own accord? Hugh_Lebowski May 2023 #22
I'm sorry you don't understand the role of AI here. But I'm glad journalists highplainsdem May 2023 #23
Because I'm looking at the literal words of the headline and concluding it's tenuous Hugh_Lebowski May 2023 #24
Look at the headlines of the stories at the last two links I just gave you. highplainsdem May 2023 #25
If you copied the headline exactly, then that's exactly who I'm quarreling with my friend :) (nt) Hugh_Lebowski May 2023 #26
BTW, Vice's headline is FAR more accurate Hugh_Lebowski May 2023 #27
Yes agreed but to blame AI entirely is misleading. honest.abe May 2023 #18

Comfortably_Numb

(3,809 posts)
3. JFC. I'm never going to be able to retire with these dipshits fucking the markets raw.
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:44 PM
May 2023

Potential World wide financial catastrophe because we can’t control fake shit on the web. Give me a god damn break.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
7. They have algorithms that will pick up stuff out of the ordinary
Mon May 22, 2023, 07:33 PM
May 2023

don't know how bad it has to be for them to take action. Probably need proof.

Shermann

(7,423 posts)
8. Better to target a single company's stock instead of the S&P
Mon May 22, 2023, 08:06 PM
May 2023

The dip wasn't anything to get rich quick on.

COL Mustard

(5,899 posts)
10. That's not the Pentagon.
Mon May 22, 2023, 09:05 PM
May 2023

This is the Pentagon:



The River Entrance is on the side closest to the camera. The Mall Entrance is to the right, where all the cars are.

IronLionZion

(45,450 posts)
11. People should at least know that the Pentagon is pentagon shaped
Mon May 22, 2023, 10:20 PM
May 2023

pranksters on social media are a nuisance but people shouldn't fall for this nonsense so easily

Prairie_Seagull

(3,324 posts)
14. Our collective cynicism needs a significant adjustment
Tue May 23, 2023, 07:18 AM
May 2023

to the upside. Hell I thought mine was already at say 7 or so. What the hell will AI to do trust in the near future. How long before we question what we are reading on formerly trustworthy sites...

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
15. The market drop was cause by fake Twitter accounts reporting this as a real event.
Tue May 23, 2023, 09:00 AM
May 2023

Fake images like this were possible long before AI. Easily done with Photoshop.

highplainsdem

(48,999 posts)
16. AI has made it much easier.
Tue May 23, 2023, 10:11 AM
May 2023

We're going to see a deluge of political deepfakes, thanks to AI. Even the people peddling and hyping AI are worried about that.

highplainsdem

(48,999 posts)
19. You can call it tenuous if you want. Most of the news stories
Tue May 23, 2023, 11:02 AM
May 2023

on this focused on AI as much as Twitter, for good reason. Did you see my GD post with the long Twitter thread from John Scott-Railton, who's a senior researcher at the Citizen Lab - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Lab - and researches spyware, phishing and disinformation? I linked to it in the OP.

Article from The Street there, too.

The fact that hoaxes were perpetrated before AI does not make AI's role in making them much worse now irrelevant or negligible. Even people who are real experts on AI don't downplay the risks the way some proponents of AI do online.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
20. I'm calling it that because it is exactly that given the actual case at hand
Tue May 23, 2023, 11:03 AM
May 2023

Article doesn't even say it's a definite AI-generated image.

And the spreading on Twitter/Social media is the actual cause.

highplainsdem

(48,999 posts)
21. Again, see the GD thread. There were multiple tells that the hoax was
Tue May 23, 2023, 11:18 AM
May 2023

AI-generated, and Insider wasn't the only news source saying that.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
22. So AI created the image and created the story entirely of it's own accord?
Tue May 23, 2023, 12:07 PM
May 2023

And then created bots to spread the story all over the the internet?

Because that's what "the hoax was AI-generated" implies.

The CAUSE ... was actually a human, and a buncha bots. And credulous people believing it.

The image could've been generated without AI, as could have the text. Very easily. The AI aspect is basically immaterial, but being presented front and center in the headline.

That's why I say it's tenuous.

highplainsdem

(48,999 posts)
23. I'm sorry you don't understand the role of AI here. But I'm glad journalists
Tue May 23, 2023, 12:27 PM
May 2023

and AI experts and lawmakers do.

Btw, AI-generated is the commonly used term for images and text - and hoaxes - produced by AI. And it has been for years.

https://openai.com/research/dall-e

https://openai.com/blog/new-ai-classifier-for-indicating-ai-written-text

https://www.insider.com/ai-generated-hoax-explosion-pentagon-viral-markets-dipped-2023-5

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kx84b/ai-generated-pentagon-explosion-hoax-twitter


I don't know why you're trying to insist there's anything unusual or misleading about standard scientific and journalistic usage.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
24. Because I'm looking at the literal words of the headline and concluding it's tenuous
Tue May 23, 2023, 12:32 PM
May 2023

And you're the one who said the 'hoax' was AI generated, which I also replied to in my last post.

I can use AI to generate an image and story here on my PC, and it's not going to cause a market crash. It's not going to be a 'hoax'. The hoax is created by the person who leveraged the AI, and then used bots to spew it all over the internet. The person and the bots are the 'causes', IOW.

I don't know what's difficult to understand about this

highplainsdem

(48,999 posts)
25. Look at the headlines of the stories at the last two links I just gave you.
Tue May 23, 2023, 12:39 PM
May 2023

Go quarrel with Insider and Vice and all the journalists and scientists who use the same wording if you want to. I'll continue with the standard usage, however much you want to complain about it.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
27. BTW, Vice's headline is FAR more accurate
Tue May 23, 2023, 12:45 PM
May 2023

"Verified Twitter Accounts Spread AI-Generated Hoax of Pentagon Explosion"

I wouldn't complain for one second about that one. That one's (pretty) accurate

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