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Wed May 24, 2023, 11:20 PM

House Dems take pessimistic tone on debt as McCarthy pushes to 'finish up' talks

Source: Politico

House Democrats, whose votes will be needed to pass any debt deal that steers the nation away from a painful default next month, are beginning to sound the alarm as White House-GOP talks stretch on.

Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries struck a pessimistic tone on Wednesday, shortly after Speaker Kevin McCarthy dispatched his Republican negotiators to the White House to continue the talks.


“It’s increasingly clear to me that House Republicans are intent on crashing the economy and defaulting on our debt,” Jeffries told reporters. “That’s wrong. It will hurt everyday Americans in the brinkmanship.”

He cited several recent developments in the talks between McCarthy’s emissaries and President Joe Biden’s in darkening his outlook on the high-stakes negotiations — including comments like Rep. Matt Gaetz’s (R-Fla.) comparison of the standoff to hostage-taking and the growing influence of former President Donald Trump.



Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/24/debt-limit-talks-wednesday-kevin-mccarthy-00098564

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Reply House Dems take pessimistic tone on debt as McCarthy pushes to 'finish up' talks (Original post)
brooklynite Wednesday OP
RockRaven Wednesday #1
sprinkleeninow Wednesday #2
ronatchig Thursday #15
f_townsend Wednesday #3
PortTack Thursday #7
jaxexpat Thursday #10
ExWhoDoesntCare Thursday #13
agingdem Thursday #4
PortTack Thursday #6
turbinetree Thursday #5
Bayard Thursday #8
jaxexpat Thursday #11
brooklynite Thursday #12
jaxexpat Thursday #14
Marthe48 Thursday #9
honest.abe Thursday #16

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2023, 11:38 PM

1. I wonder if instead of talking about "debt default" the emphasis should be on things like

"your next Social Security check won't be sent" or "your hospital/clinic closing because of no Medicare payments" or "the VA turning veterans away" even if those aren't quite accurate.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2023, 11:45 PM

2. Bluntness is required. nt

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #2)

Thu May 25, 2023, 05:57 PM

15. Indeed use words

Like traitors,treason, and throw in some tar and feathers, along with long long prison terms

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2023, 11:48 PM

3. Again (once again), there's the failure in effective messaging

There's plenty of talented people out there who could help the party. Why aren't they in charge of messaging?

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Response to f_townsend (Reply #3)

Thu May 25, 2023, 12:49 AM

7. The Dems are doing fine with messaging....look at all dark Brandon has done..there's a good message!

Dem are the ones Winning special elections be it school boards, or congressional races not the gqp..and that takes good messaging!

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Response to PortTack (Reply #7)

Thu May 25, 2023, 10:33 AM

10. In 2022 red states got no less red.

They're a juggernaut only because the proliferation of misinformation remains unchecked. That and too many Americans are stupid and lazy in their souls.

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Response to f_townsend (Reply #3)

Thu May 25, 2023, 02:11 PM

13. Stop it.

Seriously.

There's nothing wrong with Democratic messaging. The problem is that the traitor media treat the Democrats like they have cooties, trash them constantly, but give them little if not zero ability to air their views in response.

Go look at their Sunday shows alone: They routinely host 3 traitor party shills for every liberal allowed on their shows--and that's on a good day. Most of the time, the tilt towards the traitor party is worse than that. Some weekends, they have zero Democrats or liberals on their stupid shows.

This is consistent behavior with the traitor media.

WAKE UP.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 12:10 AM

4. This is Politico..

everything is gloom and doom for Biden and the Democrats...and as per usual Politico transcribes Kevin's verbal garbage as fact.."positive talks"/"talks stalled"/"talks resumed" blah blah blah... in truth, we have no idea what's in motion out of the public eye or in the confines of the Oval Office..and you can bet Biden is not going to allow the economy to crash...

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Response to agingdem (Reply #4)

Thu May 25, 2023, 12:46 AM

6. Exactly....always overstating making things look much worse than they are, and that's being kind

The facts…kevieeee doesn’t have the votes. They are at least 50 short. If he is winding up talks, this is why. They will not succeed and will be blamed for this nonsense.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 12:28 AM

5. Maybe 63 million seniors on Medicare and Social Security should sit out front Geatz home and

office and take him hostage, ,,,and then head on over to that other assdumb Marco telling him and his entire fascist bunch were is my treasury bonds, that I have been paying for since I was 16 and I am now 72 ....and my social security bonds that are backing that bonds.money we the 63 million.....from being held hostage and blackmail .......we are coming make no mistake .....

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 09:29 AM

8. I don't think President Biden has a choice

He will have to invoke the 14th amendment. Then give an address in prime time as to why he has to do it.

Its that, or give away the store to rethugs.

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Response to Bayard (Reply #8)

Thu May 25, 2023, 10:36 AM

11. Also in prime time the Republicans will be allowed a rebuttal.

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Response to jaxexpat (Reply #11)

Thu May 25, 2023, 01:30 PM

12. Not required .

The only Presidential speeches that get rebuttal time are SOTU.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #12)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:33 PM

14. We shall see.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 10:00 AM

9. r's ordered dinner, ate it

and now want to skip out on the bill.

Raising the debt limit is one thing. Talking about future spending is another. r's are combining the 2 to create havoc. I haven't heard a single news report that explains the situation in such a way the difference between what one and the other is. The media is just mouthing r talking points.

And the public is anxious, maybe hoping that the crash won't happen, not believing it will happen. It will, unless Presdient Biden invokes the 14th and judges uphold his power to do so.

The only thing that r's could successfully operate is a boring drill, because that's the only thing meant to be run into the ground.

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