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BumRushDaShow

(128,932 posts)
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 10:25 AM Jun 2023

GM to invest more than $1 billion to produce new heavy-duty pickups

Source: CNBC

DETROIT – General Motors plans to invest more than $1 billion in two Michigan plants for production of next-generation heavy-duty trucks, the company said Monday. The investment includes $788 million to prepare its Flint Assembly plant to build the heavy-duty gas and diesel trucks. Another $233 million will be invested in the automaker’s Flint Metal Center to support production of the vehicles. Both plants are located in mid-Michigan.

Despite GM’s commitment to exclusively offer all-electric vehicles by 2035, the company continues to invest in traditional vehicles such as the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra heavy-duty pickups.

The notably profitable trucks are in high demand, and sales are needed to assist in funding the automaker’s investments in EVs. In 2022, GM reported sales of its heavy-duty pickups increased by 38% compared to the prior year, amounting to nearly 288,000 trucks sold.

The investment announcement comes ahead of contract negotiations between the Detroit automakers, including GM, and the United Auto Workers union this summer. For investors, UAW negotiations are typically a short-term headwind every four years that result in higher costs. But this year’s negotiations are expected to be among the most contentious and important in recent memory, fueled by a yearslong organized labor movement across the country, a pro-union president and an industry in transition to all-electric vehicles.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/05/gm-to-invest-in-new-heavy-duty-pickups.html

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GM to invest more than $1 billion to produce new heavy-duty pickups (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 OP
Just read this morning True Blue American Jun 2023 #1
Yeah because we need more of these with pristeen beds and higloss sheens in our cities. Here ... marble falls Jun 2023 #2
Heavy duty trucks mostly purchased by men with heavy duty inferiority complexes... Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #4
If the big 3 started making 6 door pickups KS Toronado Jun 2023 #7
Check this out ... marble falls Jun 2023 #11
You're right: the cleaner the bed, the dirtier the psyche. marble falls Jun 2023 #9
My sister always holds up her pinky when she sees one of them. Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #10
often just leased pstokely Jun 2023 #26
Well, shoot! People need those giant trucks! What if they need to pick up a quart of milk? Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #8
They can't pick up a quart of milk with one of those ... marble falls Jun 2023 #16
I call them Bubba Mobiles Major Nikon Jun 2023 #14
Knew a guy in NJ who owned his own construction biz for maybe... TreasonousBastard Jun 2023 #17
A friend has a landscaping business. He wanted a new working truck. He didn't Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #22
As long as safe, old vehicle ok, run as long as well as old airplanes..just machines, maintenance. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #28
Pavement Princess n/t hibbing Jun 2023 #20
Biden's creating manufacturing jobs in Michigan IronLionZion Jun 2023 #3
Commute, work, die. That's the accepted corporate created mantra that needs another look! Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #5
Lots of industries profit from commuting IronLionZion Jun 2023 #6
Intel in Ohio. True Blue American Jun 2023 #31
Just sold my Chevy 1 ton van with multigraincracker Jun 2023 #12
We have 2 trucks Bayard Jun 2023 #13
Thank you, GM, for investing in Flint Auggie Jun 2023 #15
Guess GM is hedging their bets as I've heard that E-pickups on ranches and farms... brush Jun 2023 #18
Best analysis I've read says it's the CVT transmission that causes the load hauling issues Kennah Jun 2023 #19
Oh, I hadn't heard that. That's sounds kinda like an "if it ain't broke... brush Jun 2023 #21
Electric trucks have Disaffected Jun 2023 #25
Yes, but easily remedied add a gearbox, just for torque. Then it's a two speed. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #29
I thought that's what some of them already have (a two speed gearbox). Disaffected Jun 2023 #30
I am looking at the True Blue American Jun 2023 #32
I always have one question whenever I see yet another Testosterone Shitwagon . . . hatrack Jun 2023 #23
My prejudice, but I always wonder 'how big is the stack of unpaid child support bills?'. mpcamb Jun 2023 #27
I used to drive a Chevy S-10, which by the way could do about 90-95% LT Barclay Jun 2023 #24

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
2. Yeah because we need more of these with pristeen beds and higloss sheens in our cities. Here ...
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 10:37 AM
Jun 2023

... in Texas these vehicles are 75% transportation and not work horses.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
4. Heavy duty trucks mostly purchased by men with heavy duty inferiority complexes...
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 10:57 AM
Jun 2023

and now a heavy duty debt load to carry in the always empty truck bed.

America!

KS Toronado

(17,230 posts)
7. If the big 3 started making 6 door pickups
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 11:07 AM
Jun 2023

people would rush out to buy them just for bragging rights, and like most 4 door pickups would have
an empty bed and only one passenger,,,,,the driver.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
10. My sister always holds up her pinky when she sees one of them.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 11:17 AM
Jun 2023

In my town there are a number of streets where there is nose-to-curb parking on both sides of the street. The trucks are getting so big that their asses hang out into the street and they're blocking traffic, causing traffic jams.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
8. Well, shoot! People need those giant trucks! What if they need to pick up a quart of milk?
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 11:14 AM
Jun 2023

What if they need to take their 2.1 kids to school? What if they want to go to Baskin & Robbins?

(It's like those tv shows where people are looking for a house to buy. They can't possibly settle for a house that doesn't have a separate bathroom and bedroom for each child, plus a "teen hangout space" and a "man cave" and a "craft room" and a "she shed." We have become complete and utter morons in the name of consumption.)

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
14. I call them Bubba Mobiles
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:09 PM
Jun 2023

They are modified to the point at which they are totally ill suited to perform the purpose for which they were designed. Then they are only good for creating massive amounts of emissions and giving Bubba an inflated sense of self worth.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
17. Knew a guy in NJ who owned his own construction biz for maybe...
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:41 PM
Jun 2023

30 years. His truck was placed together and had 40 years of sawdust and concrete drips on it.


He hired a new guy with a new truck but who was afraid to go down the dirt road with it. Had to grab a ride with someone on the site.

Same thing around here. Trucks working the farms and vineyards are beat to shit, but trust fund guys have all new ones.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
22. A friend has a landscaping business. He wanted a new working truck. He didn't
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 02:34 PM
Jun 2023

want a video system or cup holders or seat warmers. He wanted to be able to carry huge root balls and blowers and rakes.

None of the new ones were workable between the cost and the ridiculous features. He ended up with a 10 year old working truck with low mileage.

IronLionZion

(45,435 posts)
3. Biden's creating manufacturing jobs in Michigan
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 10:37 AM
Jun 2023


People like big trucks and Flint needs jobs. So much for job killing socialism.

Electric vehicles are nice but I would also like to see more public transit and options to work remotely long term. Those are how we deal with traffic and pollution

IronLionZion

(45,435 posts)
6. Lots of industries profit from commuting
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 11:05 AM
Jun 2023

oil companies, vehicle maintenance, stores along major commuting routes, road construction, and even local governments who like revenue from tickets. Some cities will levy fines of like $200 for speeding. Then there are the parking tickets and tow trucks. It's a racket.

multigraincracker

(32,675 posts)
12. Just sold my Chevy 1 ton van with
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 11:48 AM
Jun 2023

the 6 liter motor. One of best, under $2K vehicles I've ever had. Used to haul cars with it. No longer in that business, so I sold it.

Bayard

(22,063 posts)
13. We have 2 trucks
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:08 PM
Jun 2023

Both of them have beds full of leftover crap from stuff we've hauled (hay, bags of feed, tools, mulch, firewood, building materials, etc.) I'm also still hauling my horse trailer with my 1997 Chevy dually. My truck has the discounted farm license plate.

Sorry to say, both of them needed a bath and swept out about a year ago!

Auggie

(31,169 posts)
15. Thank you, GM, for investing in Flint
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:20 PM
Jun 2023

Wish the market was stronger for light pick-ups and electric vehicles.

I certainly hope these manufacturing facilities are adaptable too. Any major spike in oil prices could kill demand.

brush

(53,776 posts)
18. Guess GM is hedging their bets as I've heard that E-pickups on ranches and farms...
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:52 PM
Jun 2023

Last edited Mon Jun 5, 2023, 01:45 PM - Edit history (1)

I mean trucks used for hauling heavy loads or running farm or ranch equipment, can run out of charge in the middle of a job.

And who has time to go to the charger set-up and wait for the battery to recharge.

Not practicle at all. Wonder how that problem is going to be solved?

brush

(53,776 posts)
21. Oh, I hadn't heard that. That's sounds kinda like an "if it ain't broke...
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 01:51 PM
Jun 2023

don't fix it" issue. What beats a standard manual, transmission on a sometimes off-road, working farm or ranch truck?

That transmission problem on top of E-batteries running out of charge would sure discourage buyers who need functioning work trucks.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
30. I thought that's what some of them already have (a two speed gearbox).
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 01:26 PM
Jun 2023

But not a CVT which would not be robust enough for heavy duty application (for that matter, they tend to be problematical even for passenger vehicles especially if driven hard).

hatrack

(59,585 posts)
23. I always have one question whenever I see yet another Testosterone Shitwagon . . .
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 04:17 PM
Jun 2023

"How many 8' sheets of plywood can the bed hold?"

Four times out of five, the answer is "zero".

LT Barclay

(2,598 posts)
24. I used to drive a Chevy S-10, which by the way could do about 90-95%
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 07:02 PM
Jun 2023

of what a big truck can haul,
At the time my boat was a 23’ sailboat that weighed about 3000 pounds and it was fun to see the look on the face of the guy pulling a 14’ fishing boat behind a 3/4 ton pickup when I pulled up pulling my boat behind the S-10.
I have a bigger boat now but between the cost of gas, insurance and property taxes it is far cheaper to rent a truck for the few times I need to move it.

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