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riversedge

(70,246 posts)
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 06:07 PM Feb 20

Kansas House bill invites chaplains to deliver Godly counseling to public school students

Source: raw story





Tim Carpenter, Kansas Reflector
February 20, 2024 4:41PM ET



Rep. Bill Rhiley proposed the Kansas House pass a bill granting public school districts the opportunity to hire unlicensed chaplains or welcome volunteer chaplains to serve as trusted Biblical advisors and Godly counselors to students, teachers and staff in school buildings.

Rhiley said the legislation was a slimmed-down version of a Texas statute adopted in 2023 that similarly gave school districts the option of bringing on chaplains even if they lacked a state education license. He said appointment decisions would be up to local school boards in Kansas, but he preferred districts follow guidelines of the National School Chaplain Association or a comparable organization rather than policies developed by the elected Kansas State Board of Education.

He said mental health challenges experienced by educators and students were linked to a disconnect from spirituality. He said calamities of bullying, low self-esteem, depression, peer pressure, anxiety and violence could be deflated through direct intervention of chaplains with faith-based advice.
“In this era of conflict, discord and loneliness, the role of chaplain has never been more critical,” said Rhiley, a Wellington Republican who has served in the House since 2019. “Chaplains will be in schools as a moral compass and a moral spiritual guide.”

Skeptics of House Bill 2732 pointed to the one-page bill’s failure to include language setting a prohibition on proselytizing about theology. The bill elicited concern it would resemble a Trojan horse enabling evangelical Christian activists the chance to recruit in public schools. The bill didn’t feature provisions enabling students to request chaplains from a specific faith or denomination. ................

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Repugs just keep pushing and pushing.




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Kansas House bill invites chaplains to deliver Godly counseling to public school students (Original Post) riversedge Feb 20 OP
Atheists need their own ordination just to compete bucolic_frolic Feb 20 #1
that is an interesting concept rurallib Feb 20 #3
More emboldenment than brainwashing. The Grand Illuminist Feb 21 #25
I'm sure the Satanic Temple would be very interested DBoon Feb 21 #26
Priestly counseling led to attempted rape in my life rurallib Feb 20 #2
Paging Freedom from Religion Foundation. no_hypocrisy Feb 20 #4
Calling The Satanic Temple... eggplant Feb 20 #5
This sounds like a job for Lucien Greaves and The Satanic Temple! Gore1FL Feb 20 #6
They will want to include the Godly advice in Genesis 19:32-35 Permanut Feb 20 #7
they should also see the sep of church and state segment along with treaty of tripoly re sec 14 AllaN01Bear Feb 20 #9
Roger that, and the Danbury Baptist letter. Permanut Feb 20 #15
they the rs keep shoving the same stuff on us over and over and over again. AllaN01Bear Feb 20 #8
High school teenagers can't wait to have some Bible thumper tell them what to do dalton99a Feb 20 #10
Letting potential pedo 'ministers' into school pfitz59 Feb 20 #11
The easy cure is for rabbis and imams to volunteer TomSlick Feb 20 #12
I highlighted the statement that really raised my hackles... slightlv Feb 20 #14
Keep your kids protected from the three "C's". republianmushroom Feb 20 #13
What did happen to "the separation of church and state??" Rhiannon12866 Feb 20 #16
These Christian fascists get on my last nerve. SamKnause Feb 20 #17
So, this gives those "youth pastors" a larger Bettie Feb 21 #18
Yuck Owl Feb 21 #19
I've seen this movie. limbicnuminousity Feb 21 #20
Personally I would like any minister accepting such an offer to suffer severe consequences. LiberalFighter Feb 21 #21
cant the FFRF get involved? Theyve got great lawers... samnsara Feb 21 #22
I've been to a few weddings where the groom's best friend/college roomate/younger brother has obtained a..... EarnestPutz Feb 21 #23
Does it allow non believers Conjuay Feb 21 #24
I suspect any student opting out would get severly beaten by other students DBoon Feb 21 #27
Way to open the schools up to Pedo's kimbutgar Feb 21 #28
Texas does this Zincwarrior Feb 21 #29
It's voted on in each district TexasBushwhacker Feb 22 #30

Permanut

(5,615 posts)
7. They will want to include the Godly advice in Genesis 19:32-35
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 06:59 PM
Feb 20

"Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father."

pfitz59

(10,381 posts)
11. Letting potential pedo 'ministers' into school
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 07:38 PM
Feb 20

sounds like a great idea. part of the counselor certification process is extensive background checks and close evaluation of methodology. Letting 'Brother Billy Bob' go one-on-one with troubled youth is sure fire disaster.

slightlv

(2,823 posts)
14. I highlighted the statement that really raised my hackles...
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 08:48 PM
Feb 20

"The bill didn’t feature provisions enabling students to request chaplains from a specific faith or denomination."

This keeps the rabbis and imams, as well as pagan counselors, etc., from even volunteering without being thrown out the front door. -Of course- this is a direct affront to the 1st Amendment. Any student that refuses counseling from these "preachers" will not be looked upon kindly, and probably singled out for intensive counseling on pain of being kicked out of school. At this point, these states (and KS is mine) don't care if it's blatantly unconstitutional or not. The Theologists are going to have their way, and the constitution be damned.

*rump is dangerous, there's no denying it. But these people are in positions now, thanks to R's through the years and D's who just went along with previous placements, to do real and lasting damage. These are the people who want to turn our country into a Theocratic nation, ala Iran. And they're achieving their goal and people are so blase at it, that's what's worrisome.

Rhiannon12866

(205,552 posts)
16. What did happen to "the separation of church and state??"
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 10:01 PM
Feb 20

Wasn't "religious freedom" one of the major reasons that our first immigrants came to these shores??

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
17. These Christian fascists get on my last nerve.
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 11:13 PM
Feb 20

I don't believe your bullshit.

Prove your imaginary friend exists or shut the fuck up.

limbicnuminousity

(1,403 posts)
20. I've seen this movie.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:42 AM
Feb 21

It was the prequel to Children of the Corn, right before the children cannibalize the adults out of self-defense.

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
23. I've been to a few weddings where the groom's best friend/college roomate/younger brother has obtained a.....
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:10 PM
Feb 21

......mail-order minister's license so he can officiate at the ceremony. This is just another reason why this will backfire on Kansas, though just the thought of a Catholic/Jew/Hindu/Muslim/Satanist/Woman counselor will probably be enough discourage some school boards.
Edit: Are there snake-handlers in Kansas, or is that more of a Missouri thing?

Conjuay

(1,392 posts)
24. Does it allow non believers
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:27 PM
Feb 21

To go out Into the hall and have a smoke while all booggly- boogly is going on?

DBoon

(22,372 posts)
27. I suspect any student opting out would get severly beaten by other students
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 05:02 PM
Feb 21

I almost specified "male student", but then realized female students are just as apt to administer a beating.

Zincwarrior

(66 posts)
29. Texas does this
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 05:45 PM
Feb 21

This was recently enacted in Texas as a substitute for counselors.
At time of writing I do not believe any schools have done that option.

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