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BumRushDaShow

(134,473 posts)
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 03:59 PM Apr 2024

Billionaire whose firm backed Trump's $175 million bond reveals how the deal came together

Source: CNN Business

Updated 2:53 PM EDT, Tue April 2, 2024


CNN — Don Hankey, the chairman and majority shareholder of Knight Specialty Insurance, told CNN on Tuesday that the deal to underwrite former President Donald Trump’s $175 million bond in New York came together quickly and that Trump posted all cash as collateral. “It’s what we do. I’m happy to do it. We would have done it for anybody else,” Hankey said in a phone interview. “It was an easy transaction. It was put together very quickly.”

Based in California, Knight Specialty Insurance is known for providing subprime auto loans to car buyers with weaker credit scores. Hankey, who has supported Trump’s presidential campaigns, said initially he reached out to the Trump Organization last month when the former president was having trouble putting together a bond of $464 million. Hankey has amassed a fortune that Forbes values at $7.4 billion.

“We had a conversation about putting together a bond of that size,” Hankey told CNN. After the amount of the bond was slashed to $175 million by a New York appeals court, the Trump team eventually reached back out to Knight Specialty, according to Hankey.

At first, Trump planned to post a mix of investment-grade bonds and cash as collateral (80% bonds and 20% cash), Hankey said. Although Knight Specialty received the bonds and approved them, he said they were not posted in the end. “Ultimately, he put up all cash,” Hankey said, adding that he does not know where the $175 million in cash that Trump posted came from.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/02/investing/trump-bond-firm/index.html

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Billionaire whose firm backed Trump's $175 million bond reveals how the deal came together (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 OP
Money came from yankee87 Apr 2024 #1
Yeah... Who could guess that? hlthe2b Apr 2024 #3
Trump is likely using campaign cash pfitz59 Apr 2024 #2
Is there such a thing anymore? mucifer Apr 2024 #5
Not a violation because it didn't happen brooklynite Apr 2024 #7
Yes - but enforced by whom? Our banana republic-level FEC? peppertree Apr 2024 #11
I would imagine that he himself is not worried moniss Apr 2024 #12
Then all you need to do is check the FEC records to know if it happened. brooklynite Apr 2024 #16
We need to remember that FEC filings moniss Apr 2024 #17
Not by $17 M. brooklynite Apr 2024 #18
It's not a matter of imagining moniss Apr 2024 #19
Not with the FEC. brooklynite Apr 2024 #24
The FEC files are filled with forms that balance the money in moniss Apr 2024 #27
Trump, alone, wouldn't be able to move that amount of campaign cash. cab67 Apr 2024 #37
Some campaigns moniss Apr 2024 #38
We absolutely need to know where the money came from gilpo Apr 2024 #4
if trump had $175M in cash, why did he need the bond in the first place? eggplant Apr 2024 #6
Bingo and moniss Apr 2024 #10
He didn't. brooklynite Apr 2024 #25
Hankey may have gotten $175 million in cash to cover the bond ToxMarz Apr 2024 #28
Birds of a feather flock together JoseBalow Apr 2024 #8
In other news Trump's Flaming Bibles, Inc. is now valued at 175 million. twodogsbarking Apr 2024 #9
A Buy Here Pay Here billionaire in Amerika. Imagine that n/t Cheezoholic Apr 2024 #13
I would suggest moniss Apr 2024 #14
I don't believe 1 fucking word gab13by13 Apr 2024 #15
See if Putin withdrew 15,998,440,749.88 Rubles recently. SouthernDem4ever Apr 2024 #20
Gee, a shady sub-prime lender that exploits desperate people gets in bed with the Slobfather. catbyte Apr 2024 #21
Me too. Imagine, the scion of totally respectable slum lords dealing with sub-prime repo artists. jaxexpat Apr 2024 #36
Of course TFG used some Hankey Pankey to cover his bond IbogaProject Apr 2024 #22
This Hankey says TSF put up 100% cash as collateral vs 80% bonds and 20% cash. If TSF put up all iluvtennis Apr 2024 #23
He put up 10 % or about 17.5 millions. drray23 Apr 2024 #29
Ok. Thanks for clarifying as the article wasn't clear. n/t iluvtennis Apr 2024 #31
Hinky Hankey can kiss his $ millions goodbye dlk Apr 2024 #26
He is not worried about the money at all. Somebody guaranteed it. niyad Apr 2024 #33
You're probably right, however, whomever the guarantor may be dlk Apr 2024 #39
Learn from history truthisfreedom Apr 2024 #30
DU'er Kpete posted an OP yesterday about hankey and his scummy, niyad Apr 2024 #32
I'm guessing the word "ambassador" came into it (nt) muriel_volestrangler Apr 2024 #34
The most evil, corrupt, fraudulent Used Car Salesman maxrandb Apr 2024 #35

brooklynite

(96,825 posts)
7. Not a violation because it didn't happen
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 04:22 PM
Apr 2024

I don’t care what people imagine Trump WANTS to do. You can’t reroute $17.5 M from an FEC campaign account. Someone who’s not Trump will have to report the outflow and won’t want to go to jail. Also, an outflow that large would be a huge hit to what the campaign is doing.

peppertree

(22,268 posts)
11. Yes - but enforced by whom? Our banana republic-level FEC?
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 04:43 PM
Apr 2024

Where all enforcement is essentially blocked by one party at will and at whim - and with no recourse.

moniss

(4,587 posts)
12. I would imagine that he himself is not worried
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 04:51 PM
Apr 2024

in the least about an FEC fine. At his age by the time a fine would even be levied he may likely be gone. I agree with you about underlings being reluctant. But I believe they would try to justify all of this as simply paying his "legal costs" and fighting in court to defend including the bond in that definition.

moniss

(4,587 posts)
17. We need to remember that FEC filings
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 06:12 PM
Apr 2024

get "corrected" even years after an original filing. Things suddenly appear that weren't there before.

moniss

(4,587 posts)
19. It's not a matter of imagining
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 06:19 PM
Apr 2024

a conspiracy. I don't know which one you might be referring to but I do know we can point to several instances of fraudulent conduct by this fellow that far exceed $17 million. He didn't stop after the first crooked scam so why would he be bothered now?

brooklynite

(96,825 posts)
24. Not with the FEC.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 08:57 PM
Apr 2024

Whether or not you imagine he's cheating, and whether or not you believe the FEC will act on fraud, the money in still has to be matched to the money out.

moniss

(4,587 posts)
27. The FEC files are filled with forms that balance the money in
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 09:18 PM
Apr 2024

and out and yet are filled with lies about the what, the who and the why.

cab67

(3,090 posts)
37. Trump, alone, wouldn't be able to move that amount of campaign cash.
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 09:24 AM
Apr 2024

He may not care, but I would imagine there are others involved who would.

moniss

(4,587 posts)
38. Some campaigns
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 09:59 AM
Apr 2024

also slush the money through various "consulting" firm contracts and some finds it's way back under the table so to speak to the candidate or to a financial firm who then "loans" money to the candidate on a personal basis.

eggplant

(3,944 posts)
6. if trump had $175M in cash, why did he need the bond in the first place?
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 04:21 PM
Apr 2024

why wouldn't he just put up the cash with the court?

or is it because he didn't /actually/ hand the cash over to this guy, just showed him that it theoretically existed?

ToxMarz

(2,179 posts)
28. Hankey may have gotten $175 million in cash to cover the bond
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 09:22 PM
Apr 2024

but it wouldn't have been Trumps cash as you said because he could do that himself. He had to go through the bond to hide/launder the source of the money.

moniss

(4,587 posts)
14. I would suggest
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 05:01 PM
Apr 2024

requesting a review report from the overseer that is monitoring his NY companies for all significant transaction amounts for the last 6 months at least. Did this group of companies "loan" him money he is simply now handing back? Promise of future business and big "cash flows" from foreign "friends" doing cash real estate deals? Lot's of financial transactions to profit from to more than make back the $175 million? Has there been some recent huge deposits in the bank? Big transfers? Lots of questions.

gab13by13

(22,989 posts)
15. I don't believe 1 fucking word
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 05:10 PM
Apr 2024

That comes from Hankey’s mouth.

Trump moved money a year ago to Axos bank.

catbyte

(34,910 posts)
21. Gee, a shady sub-prime lender that exploits desperate people gets in bed with the Slobfather.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 07:28 PM
Apr 2024

Quelle surprise.

jaxexpat

(7,249 posts)
36. Me too. Imagine, the scion of totally respectable slum lords dealing with sub-prime repo artists.
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 08:23 AM
Apr 2024

* No legs were broken in the writing of this totally free speech endowed critique. It was an accident, falling down the stairs. Angry stairs.

BTW, did Parker and Stone write this script? Has Cartman set up this whole thing from the beginning?

iluvtennis

(20,232 posts)
23. This Hankey says TSF put up 100% cash as collateral vs 80% bonds and 20% cash. If TSF put up all
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 08:34 PM
Apr 2024

Last edited Tue Apr 2, 2024, 11:12 PM - Edit history (1)

cash collateral why did he need Hankey - he could have paid the bond himself. Something smelly here.

drray23

(7,713 posts)
29. He put up 10 % or about 17.5 millions.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 09:30 PM
Apr 2024

Typically you put up 10 % and the bond company assumes the risk for the rest.

dlk

(11,888 posts)
39. You're probably right, however, whomever the guarantor may be
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 12:58 PM
Apr 2024

It’s pretty much a given, they will lose their money. Putin has deep pockets, though.

niyad

(116,418 posts)
32. DU'er Kpete posted an OP yesterday about hankey and his scummy,
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 11:45 PM
Apr 2024

shady dealings. It referred to an article in Roll8ng Stone, 13 March 2022, "The Totally Dodgy Backstory of the Bank That Refinanced t#### tower", by Tim Dickinson and Andy Kroll. Absolutely disgusting. Completely unsurprising. (note: I managed to read the entire sickening article yesterday, but when I went back just now, hit a paywall.)

maxrandb

(15,658 posts)
35. The most evil, corrupt, fraudulent Used Car Salesman
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 08:14 AM
Apr 2024

received a "bond" from the subprime auto-loan king.

Nothing to see here, move along.

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