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BumRushDaShow

(129,228 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 12:36 PM Apr 8

Trump to Sue Judge in Last-Ditch Attempt to Avert Manhattan Trial

Source: New York Times

April 8, 2024 Updated 12:18 p.m. ET


Donald J. Trump, a week away from standing trial in Manhattan on criminal charges that he falsified records to cover up a sex scandal, has indicated he plans to file a lawsuit against the judge overseeing the case.

The lawsuit was not immediately made public, but court records showed on Monday that Mr. Trump was filing an action against the judge, Juan M. Merchan, in an 11th-hour bid to delay the case. An online court docket where Mr. Trump is filing the action showed that the related paperwork was sealed.

Two people with knowledge of the matter said that Mr. Trump’s lawyers on Monday planned to file the action calling on an appeals court to delay the trial and to challenge a gag order that Justice Merchan recently imposed on the former president. The order prevents Mr. Trump from attacking witnesses, prosecutors and the judge’s own family.

Mr. Trump’s unorthodox move — essentially an appeal in the form of a lawsuit — is unlikely to succeed, particularly so close to trial. And the appeals court might act fast to reject it. A single appeals court judge will most likely issue a preliminary ruling on Monday, setting up a full five-judge panel to consider Mr. Trump’s request in the coming days.



Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/08/nyregion/trump-hush-money-trial-delay.html



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Trump to Sue Judge in Last-Ditch Attempt to Avert Manhattan Trial (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 8 OP
His lawyers must be expecting to retire. Turbineguy Apr 8 #1
Better ask to get paid at the close of each day, and check with the bank to ensure payment didn't bounce Kennah Apr 8 #23
This law suit will fail... FarPoint Apr 8 #2
Trump wages brutal legal warfare. Irish_Dem Apr 8 #3
Filing lawsuits on the steps yankee87 Apr 8 #5
So will he be able to take this to the supremes, too? CrispyQ Apr 8 #4
How many things has he tried that experts said would fail MadameButterfly Apr 8 #10
It will be his justification to appeal after he loses. He'll say that the judge was angry over the lawsuit * Oopsie Daisy Apr 8 #6
Frivolous - this shithole lawsuit should be thrown in the dumpster. n/t iluvtennis Apr 8 #7
It probably will end up in the dumpster. ShazzieB Apr 8 #14
with the idjit asshole that filed it..... lastlib Apr 8 #25
Hair Poopy Pants is having a shit storm of fear. I'm loving it.....Merd a Lardo memo-order more ketchup. Comfortably_Numb Apr 8 #8
You'd think if he was innocent he'd want the case to be heard ASAP MiniMe Apr 8 #9
All Chump had to do was hire Stormy Daniels to be a campaign worker FakeNoose Apr 8 #11
Somehow, I doubt even this will be the "last ditch appeal" . . . Journeyman Apr 8 #12
Trying to force a recusal? SomewhereInTheMiddle Apr 8 #13
This is the trial with the greatest likelihood of sinking him. truthisfreedom Apr 8 #15
In related news, Trump is suing his mother for making him eat his vegetables. CaptainTruth Apr 8 #16
Rapist ... Crook .... Peodiphile .... Racist .... Bigot .... Woman hater... Murderer Trueblue1968 Apr 8 #17
Thank you for gifting the full article Maeve Apr 8 #18
At some point in the near future... dchill Apr 8 #19
Is the yellow haired loons .. Maxheader Apr 8 #20
Is Donald Trump trying to hide something? bucolic_frolic Apr 8 #21
I really think this should lead to sanctions, if not worse, for his lawyers lakercub Apr 8 #22
Ask for parlay Kennah Apr 8 #24
Vexatious? catnipcoffee Apr 8 #26

Kennah

(14,290 posts)
23. Better ask to get paid at the close of each day, and check with the bank to ensure payment didn't bounce
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 03:13 PM
Apr 8

CrispyQ

(36,487 posts)
4. So will he be able to take this to the supremes, too?
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 12:40 PM
Apr 8

I know the article says the ploy is unlikely to succeed but I don't have a lot of confidence in our justice system anymore.

MadameButterfly

(1,062 posts)
10. How many things has he tried that experts said would fail
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 12:57 PM
Apr 8

and he's found the necessary judges to give him just enough credence to delay. This is our last hope and if some appeals judge we don't know lets it cause delay, or if SCOTUS gets their hand on it, it's all over

Oopsie Daisy

(2,666 posts)
6. It will be his justification to appeal after he loses. He'll say that the judge was angry over the lawsuit *
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 12:49 PM
Apr 8

* and wanted to get-even. "Unfair! Unfair!"

ShazzieB

(16,451 posts)
14. It probably will end up in the dumpster.
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 02:34 PM
Apr 8

Just like a his other frivolous lawsuits.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he's had more lawsuits thrown out in his lifetime than most people ever file.

If I hear this suit actually has legs, I'll worry about it then

lastlib

(23,257 posts)
25. with the idjit asshole that filed it.....
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 03:30 PM
Apr 8

(...and I don't mean the lawyer....)

And then padlock the dumpster until the trash pickup gets to the landfill. Then quarantine the landfill.....

Comfortably_Numb

(3,809 posts)
8. Hair Poopy Pants is having a shit storm of fear. I'm loving it.....Merd a Lardo memo-order more ketchup.
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 12:52 PM
Apr 8

And nappies. And it’s time to sanction these blowhard lawyers for filing frivolous lawsuits. Fuck ‘em all.

FakeNoose

(32,680 posts)
11. All Chump had to do was hire Stormy Daniels to be a campaign worker
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 01:13 PM
Apr 8

This BS would have all gone away years ago. Who cares that he slept with her? Nobody. I don't think even Melania cares. It's the fact that he paid Daniels hush money and then tried to pass it off as a legitimate "campaign" expense. So Uncle Sam cares.

For E. Jean Carroll he could have swept it under a rug by apologizing to her (back when it happened 30 years ago) and offering her a contract to write a book or some kind of PR thing. But no, he's the worst kind of asshole and he has no idea how to behave, especially towards women.

I hope he gets every nasty thing he deserves in every one of these trials. These judges CANNOT back down.

13. Trying to force a recusal?
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 02:34 PM
Apr 8

I wonder if Trump will claim that now that he and the judge are in an adversarial state in the lawsuit that the judge must recuse himself from the criminal trial.

I would hope this would not succeed, not least because it would set precedent that anyone that wanted to force a judge out of a trial would simply need to sue them.

Anything to delay.

CaptainTruth

(6,598 posts)
16. In related news, Trump is suing his mother for making him eat his vegetables.
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 02:44 PM
Apr 8

Trump is the biggest whining crybaby I've ever seen.

Trueblue1968

(17,231 posts)
17. Rapist ... Crook .... Peodiphile .... Racist .... Bigot .... Woman hater... Murderer
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 02:44 PM
Apr 8

Evil

AntiChrist .... Demon

dchill

(38,511 posts)
19. At some point in the near future...
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 02:58 PM
Apr 8

... I expect him to fling shit like the spider monkeys at the zoo. You know - literally.

lakercub

(659 posts)
22. I really think this should lead to sanctions, if not worse, for his lawyers
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 03:11 PM
Apr 8

There are reasons you CAN sue your judge but they are pretty specific. I found this article which talks about it. There are ways to get judges removed, censured, etc, but lawsuits are almost never the way and his lawyers should know that. There really should be punishment for this level of bad legal advice. If this is Trump's idea, his lawyers, if they had any ethics, should try and resign or drop their client (this close to the case that would be tough). If it was the their idea it should be grounds for punishment because a half-decent lawyer wouldn't even go down this path.

https://www.findlaw.com/litigation/filing-a-lawsuit/can-i-sue-a-judge-.html#:~:text=Most%20of%20the%20time%2C%20however,judicial%20officers%2C%20including%20court%20judges.

Excerpt:
That said, absolute immunity does not extend protection beyond judicial functions. Certain judicial acts can be so egregious that culpable judges could face some form of criminal or civil liability for their wrongdoings. You may be able to pay a filing fee to bring a civil action against a judge who:

Acts outside the scope of judicial functions
Commits misconduct that interferes with their judicial duties
Otherwise commits an illegal action that harms you or the public at large, or which is subject to a lower standard of “qualified" immunity, as contrasted with absolute immunity
In addition, a prosecutor may be able to seek criminal charges against a judge for breaking the law.

For example, the United States Supreme Court restricted judicial immunity in a civil rights case where a woman, a subordinate court employee, sued a male judge for firing her based on her sex. The judge was found liable for violating the woman's civil rights. The Supreme Court found that the judge's action was an administrative function and not a judicial act, and therefore not protected by absolute immunity. The moral of this case is that if a judge acts outside the scope of their judicial function, you can sue.

catnipcoffee

(16 posts)
26. Vexatious?
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 04:15 PM
Apr 8

At what point does he get designated a vexatious litigant?

(Seriously, he's going to use every trick he can think of. When is enough, well, enough?)

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