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kpete

(72,031 posts)
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:52 PM Dec 2012

GOP Rep. to former Bush staffer: Investigate WMD claims before attacking Susan Rice

Last edited Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Raw Story

Rep. Tom Cole, a Republican from Oklahoma, says that if lawmakers are going to go after U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice over her initial public assessment of the September attack in Benghazi then maybe Congress should also look at how President George W. Bush pushed bad intelligence about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Dan Senor, who worked to spin the Iraq war for the Bush administration as the chief spokesman for the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), told a Sunday panel on ABC that Rice deserved to be scrutinized because she was “front and center” as the voice of the Obama administration after the Benghazi attack.

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“There is a legitimate concern that she was used five days after the fact to propagate a story that we should have known at the time was not the case,” Cole agreed, adding that there were also “serious questions about our own intelligence people.”

“We saw President Bush out front defending something wasn’t true too,” the Oklahoma Republican recalled. “Maybe we should ask those guys some questions too.”




Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/02/gop-rep-to-former-bush-staffer-investigate-wmd-claims-before-attacking-susan-rice/

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GOP Rep. to former Bush staffer: Investigate WMD claims before attacking Susan Rice (Original Post) kpete Dec 2012 OP
Yeah, Baghdad Dan, what about it? Just where ARE those WMD anyway? calimary Dec 2012 #1
Been saying this since 9/16/12! CindyinIndy Dec 2012 #2
Absolutely not. GatorLarry Dec 2012 #31
That's an interesting line of inquiry. Not real sure that it will produce anything much more than an patrice Dec 2012 #3
nothing will come of the wmd question heaven05 Dec 2012 #4
If they truly could blame it on Bill Clinton zbdent Dec 2012 #5
That's my thought on the matter. This is a feint to justify attacking Rice in order to get patrice Dec 2012 #6
'Oooh, we need someone with more gravitas to attack Rice.' freshwest Dec 2012 #28
Some people think those "other-dimentional entities" are all about hocus-pocus, soft-minded patrice Dec 2012 #32
You nailed it. We are surrounded by repetition. freshwest Dec 2012 #34
Cole was the one who said they should accept the president's tax plan muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #7
Tom Cole's district is conservative, but... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #12
I agree. Andy823 Dec 2012 #20
not "a" reasonable Republican, "the" reasonable Repubican NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #48
K++-Yes, He might be the "Canary" fredamae Dec 2012 #50
Tom Cole.. who would have thunk it OKNancy Dec 2012 #8
Thanks for the history, OKNancy nm Cha Dec 2012 #11
sounds like one of those elitist communist whatever the wingnuts are always going on about JI7 Dec 2012 #19
A man that just might favor fact and reality over Woo. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #21
wow -- awesome credentials. nt grasswire Dec 2012 #43
I think hell's frozen over! I'm beginning to like this ultra-Con, Tom Cole! BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #9
In addition.. Richard Clark's advice. cyclezealot Dec 2012 #10
Condi was brushing up The Wizard Dec 2012 #22
Or shopping for that new pair of Chanel pumps (nt) tex-wyo-dem Dec 2012 #40
Senor...asshole supreme. SoapBox Dec 2012 #13
Wow! xxxsdesdexxx Dec 2012 #14
Yes they both need to be investigated and brought into the light. dkf Dec 2012 #15
Not Addressing What Earlier? DallasNE Dec 2012 #18
I was actually talking about Bush but I don't think Obama came clean on Benghazi either. dkf Dec 2012 #38
What Part? n/t DallasNE Dec 2012 #41
+1000. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #55
Fuck off. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2012 #29
Classic. Kingofalldems Dec 2012 #35
Sorry, not buying the GOP Benghazi bull...you can if you want. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #54
So Why Do They Only Go After Dr. Susan Rice DallasNE Dec 2012 #16
I am under the impression it is because we didn't want the IdaBriggs Dec 2012 #23
Petraeus said it wasn't his people. dkf Dec 2012 #39
This Is News To Me DallasNE Dec 2012 #42
Got a link to back up your statement? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #56
K&R! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #17
We are truly down the rabbit hole. Next thing you know, Cole will be calling coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #24
+1 nt Live and Learn Dec 2012 #46
great link kpete pipewrench Dec 2012 #25
thanks pipewrench kpete Dec 2012 #33
Very simple. SCVDem Dec 2012 #26
Ruh Roh. progressoid Dec 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #30
This is part of Boehner's "Fiscal Cliff" negotiation n/t Pryderi Dec 2012 #36
Indeed. Fuck yes. n/t Blandocyte Dec 2012 #37
Why couldn't a Dem say that? yurbud Dec 2012 #44
Not fair. Not only has DU been saying it for years Live and Learn Dec 2012 #47
absolutely, I meant a Dem "leader" in Congress or Obama yurbud Dec 2012 #59
A lot of times, they do say it NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #49
Where were you while plenty of Dems were saying that? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #57
see my reply #59 yurbud Dec 2012 #60
I read your reply #59 and wasn't impressed by your comment. Again, where were you? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #61
Which Dems are you talking about? The ones that gave Bush the use of force authorization? yurbud Dec 2012 #62
No shit. Quantess Dec 2012 #45
“Maybe we should ask those guys some questions too.” Flashmann Dec 2012 #51
Did Bush see the first attack or did her hear about it? KansDem Dec 2012 #52
And if W did see the first attack as he claims, how did he know to watch? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #58
Yeah, how did he know? KansDem Dec 2012 #63
Bush had just left the Colony Resort in Sarasota at about 8:35am..... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #65
K-n-R, Howz about some cover-up for those war crimes? Royal Sloan 09 Dec 2012 #53
k&r nt steve2470 Dec 2012 #64

calimary

(81,551 posts)
1. Yeah, Baghdad Dan, what about it? Just where ARE those WMD anyway?
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:58 PM
Dec 2012

What about all the lies you told all over Christendom when YOU were "front and center" as the voice of the bush administration in the Green Zone?

CindyinIndy

(90 posts)
2. Been saying this since 9/16/12!
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:59 PM
Dec 2012

Why do they talk out of both sides of their faces? Clearly Rethugs were not taught "Good for Goose / Gander" saying.

GatorLarry

(55 posts)
31. Absolutely not.
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 08:55 PM
Dec 2012

They can always dish it out but never take it.

Can you guys remember when they actually said, almost daily, when Bush II was in the White House, that any criticism of a sitting President during a time of war was treasonous?

patrice

(47,992 posts)
3. That's an interesting line of inquiry. Not real sure that it will produce anything much more than an
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:01 PM
Dec 2012

excuse to attack Rice, without actually being productive on the BushCo cohort, after-all we're talking Dick fucking Cheney here, if he has anything to do with BOTH of these front-persons, he also has the ability to control what is revealed about whichever one he chooses.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. nothing will come of the wmd question
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:07 PM
Dec 2012

as with the august 2001 nsa/cia warning. alquaida looking to crash planes in us. nothing. whimpers here, whimpers there. but nothing.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
5. If they truly could blame it on Bill Clinton
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:14 PM
Dec 2012

then the Repugs would have been screaming (with their control of enough of the House, control of the Senate, and all the other parts of the govt. at the time) for a thorough investigation.

See "whitewater" for their willingness to find SOMETHING on a Dem to make into a (literal) federal case ...

patrice

(47,992 posts)
6. That's my thought on the matter. This is a feint to justify attacking Rice in order to get
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:14 PM
Dec 2012

Senator Kerry's seat.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
28. 'Oooh, we need someone with more gravitas to attack Rice.'
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:48 PM
Dec 2012
Let's call Dick Cheney. He'll tell them off good! Come on, Darth, bring down Obama with your light saber, Dark Lord! We worship you!

Does anyone believe this goon really cares about the crimes of BushCo?

Someone on DU had this as a sig line and I never forgot it:

Republicans serve The Beast. From the dawn of mankind they are the regressive element that's been holding back and destroying our civilization. They nourish other-dimensional entities that feed on misery, pain, and chaos. Republicans are their minions, and hope to share in these entities' power, or be spared the pain. But The Beast never shares; The Beast never spares.


I'll buy that before I think this gent from OK wants to get to the truth. About anything.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
32. Some people think those "other-dimentional entities" are all about hocus-pocus, soft-minded
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 09:01 PM
Dec 2012

superstition, but they aren't. It's as obvious as wide-spread and deep synchrony in any kind of trait(s), big and small, behavioral tendencies distributed across groups, potentialities for good and bad that are multiplied at meta- or archetypical levels.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,397 posts)
7. Cole was the one who said they should accept the president's tax plan
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:17 PM
Dec 2012

this year, and then make more proposals next year: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/27/tom-cole-obama-taxes_n_2201479.html?1354073594

He seems to be marking out the territory as a 'reasonable' Republican congressman.

reACTIONary

(5,789 posts)
12. Tom Cole's district is conservative, but...
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:47 PM
Dec 2012

...the mean annual income is hovering a little under 50K. Which means most of his constituents fall into the economic segment that Romney's adviser was bragging about loosing. And loosing big. Cole seems to know which way the wind blows.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
20. I agree.
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:48 PM
Dec 2012

And it was mentioned here that his district has a lot of people making $50,000.00 or less. Polls have shown that the vast majority of republicans are in favor of ending the tax cuts for the rich, so maybe those who voted him into office have let him know how they feel.

I think there may be more republicans that will come around and decide that the actual will of the people who voted them into office means more than people like Grover who want to keep giving the breaks to the rich no matter how much it hurts the rest of the country. I hope that more republicans start following the lead of rep. Cole and tell Grover to take a hike!

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
50. K++-Yes, He might be the "Canary"
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:51 AM
Dec 2012

..I understand hes close friends w/Boehner-I believe Maddow was talking about this when he came out on the Tax issue..and now this.

I agree, he's checking the "GOP territory of reason" to see what TP backlash they may get..

Todays Mr Cole is very representative of "Old School GOP" when the far right extremists like McCarthy were in the minority...the Pendulum Swung--we have paid the price--I think maybe they "heard us" on Nov 6th, but won't admit it.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
8. Tom Cole.. who would have thunk it
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:19 PM
Dec 2012

He is in a very safe district. He is a Chickasaw tribe member. He is also not a dumbass.

From wiki:
His postgraduate degrees include an M.A. from Yale University (1974) and a Ph.D. from the University of Oklahoma (1984), both in British history. Cole did research abroad as a Thomas J. Watson Fellow and was a Fulbright Fellow (1977–78) at the University of London. He was a college professor in history and politics before becoming a politician.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
21. A man that just might favor fact and reality over Woo.
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:49 PM
Dec 2012

Good to see that there are few left with some emblance of sanity.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
13. Senor...asshole supreme.
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:50 PM
Dec 2012

What a jag off...shut the fuck up or go to jail.

All of BushCo. should be shipped to Gitmo.

xxxsdesdexxx

(213 posts)
14. Wow!
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:06 PM
Dec 2012

First he agrees with the President and other Democrats and wants to extend the Bush Tax Cuts for 98% of Americans and now he wants to investigate WMD claims before attacking Susan Rice? This is amazing -- finally a break in the ranks and some common sense. I hope this trend continues with him, and I hope others join him in his "based in reality" approach.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
15. Yes they both need to be investigated and brought into the light.
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:24 PM
Dec 2012

No administration should ever mislead the public for a political benefit or even worse to trick us into going to war. Any allegations to this effect should be investigated and exposed as thoroughly as possible so that future administrations never ever feel this is an option.

Bush getting away with WMD allegations sets an awful precedent, especially now that Iran is an issue. Obama made a huge mistake not addressing it earlier.

DallasNE

(7,404 posts)
18. Not Addressing What Earlier?
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:45 PM
Dec 2012

The day after the attack Obama called the attack "an act of terror" in a Rose Garden statement. If there was a problem it was in giving out too much information too quickly and before the facts had all been sorted out. Rather than not addressing it earlier he was too transparent and that is just the opposite of a cover-up.

DallasNE

(7,404 posts)
16. So Why Do They Only Go After Dr. Susan Rice
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:39 PM
Dec 2012

And not Gen. Petraeus when it was his department that provided the talking points Rice used. Any reasonable person would place the blame on the faulty message rather that the messenger and the Republicans are doing here. Frankly, all this posturing by Republicans has caused is for some classified data to be unclassified, showing terrorism was always suspected and the CIA was simply trying to hide from al Qaeda how much they really knew about the attack. Romney, who was privy to the classified data, really forced the issue with his press conference the night of 9/11 (for political gain). Obviously, there is another reason they let Petraeus and Romney off the hook while going after Rice with both barrels. They need to come clean.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
23. I am under the impression it is because we didn't want the
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:00 PM
Dec 2012

Specific terrorists to know we had their information.

I frankly support a little bit of "need to know" details not being released, and felt Obama's statement was sufficient code to make clear our people were investigating.

But I am not a Republican playing political theater.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
24. We are truly down the rabbit hole. Next thing you know, Cole will be calling
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:03 PM
Dec 2012

for Cheney's indictment for war crimes!

Wow-zer!

Response to kpete (Original post)

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
47. Not fair. Not only has DU been saying it for years
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 07:40 AM
Dec 2012

but so have some of our reps. Kucinich and Grayson are two that come to mind easily. Sanders too (of course he isn't quite ours but I like to claim him) and I am sure their are others.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
59. absolutely, I meant a Dem "leader" in Congress or Obama
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 07:50 PM
Dec 2012

Unfortunately, those Democrats in Congress who simply state the facts are treated like they're wearing tinfoil hats by the leadership of the party.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
49. A lot of times, they do say it
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:29 AM
Dec 2012

It just doesn't get coverage. When a Republican says it, it's along the lines of a "man bites dog" story.

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
51. “Maybe we should ask those guys some questions too.”
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 10:10 AM
Dec 2012

What's this?.....A rethug using reasoned logic??......How can this be??...I am thoroughly confused.....

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
52. Did Bush see the first attack or did her hear about it?
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 11:21 AM
Dec 2012

He's stated he did both.

Which is it? I'd like to know. It might help to explain the rest of his bizarre behavior...

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
63. Yeah, how did he know?
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:06 PM
Dec 2012

He saw it--



He was told about it (0'50&quot --



Which is it? Why don't our crack investigative journalists ask him?

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
65. Bush had just left the Colony Resort in Sarasota at about 8:35am.....
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:00 PM
Dec 2012

....and supposedly wasn't told about the crash until he arrived at the school at 8:55am. There is absolutely no way his staff waited to tell Bush from the time of the first impact on the WTC at 8:46am until his arrival at the school at 8:55am. No way.

Additionally, Bush's presidential limo was LOADED with communications gear to include a closed-circuit television system. He stated that he saw the first impact and that cctv system is the only way he could have done that. That implies the Bush Administration had prior knowledge of the terrorist attack, does it not?

And doesn't that lead to a ton of other questions?

Royal Sloan 09

(406 posts)
53. K-n-R, Howz about some cover-up for those war crimes?
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:19 PM
Dec 2012

remember those DOWNING STREET Memos, official British government docs. Yeh me, neither!

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