Hamas says it accepts UN-backed Gaza truce plan, US cites 'hopeful sign'

[iemanja]

Source: Reuters

TEL AVIV/CAIRO (Reuters) -Hamas accepts a U.N. resolution backing a plan to end the war with Israel in Gaza and is ready to negotiate details, a senior official of the Palestinian militant group said on Tuesday in what the U.S. Secretary of State called "a hopeful sign".

Conversations on plans for Gaza after the Israel-Hamas war ends will continue on Tuesday afternoon and in the next couple of days, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in Tel Aviv after talks with Israeli leaders. "It's imperative that we have these plans." . . .

Ahead of Blinken's trip, Israel and Hamas both repeated hardline positions that have undermined previous mediation to end the fighting, while Israel has pressed on with assaults in central and southern Gaza, among the bloodiest of the war.

On Tuesday, however, senior Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri, who is based outside Gaza, said it accepted the ceasefire resolution and was ready to negotiate over the details. It was up to Washington to ensure that Israel abides by it, he added.



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[Turbineguy]

1. So they figured out a work-around then.

[SunSeeker]

14. No, Hamas hasn't agreed to any specific terms.

They basically agreed to negotiate.

[Orrex]

17. Well, we know that Netanyahu will certainly find a work-around.

Not equating the two; Hamas is a terrorist regime that should be wiped from the earth to its last member, while Israel is a long-standing US ally.

However, Netanyahu has shown that he's not afraid to push the boundaries of what's allowed, typically by claiming something about "human shields" and "Hamas embedded among civilians," etc.

[sarisataka]

2. I realize it is Reuters headline, but it is inaccurate

They did not accept the ceasefire, they accept that there was a resolution for a ceasefire.

As for the actual ceasefire- "was ready to negotiate over the details". They have replied to the proposed ceasefire with some "remarks"

[iemanja]

4. As opposed to rejecting it ouright

like the Israelis? You think that's the better way to go?

[sarisataka]

5. Israel has not rejected it

not since the UNSC vote.

SoS Blinken says Israel is on board with the deal as offered, do you think he is lying?

Clearly though Hamas has not accepted the deal if they are adding conditions

[iemanja]

6. If they have changed their position

that is wonderful.

[sarisataka]

7. I trust Biden's SoS is intelligent

and truthful

[iemanja]

8. Can you provide the quote from the article that says that?

Because it repeats Netanyahu's former position: that he will only agree to a permanent ceasefire when Hamas is destroyed.

Israel has said it will agree only to temporary pauses in the war until Hamas is defeated, while Hamas has countered it will not accept a deal that does not guarantee the war will end.

[sarisataka]

9. Not in this article

but here is Blinken's statement from another

“Everyone’s vote is in, except for one vote, and that’s Hamas,” Blinken told reporters in Tel Aviv after meeting with Israeli officials. He said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had reaffirmed his commitment to the proposal when they met earlier in the week.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/hamas-says-it-gave-mediators-its-response-to-gaza-ceasefire-plan-with-some-remarks/GZFJMKKURBDC3FVGIJ5JE5KLKM/

The proposal includes a permanent (or extended or ongoing or whatever other terms are bandied about) ceasefire.

[iemanja]

12. That's excellent!

Thanks for the info.

[muriel_volestrangler]

10. What is Israel's response to it?

The best I can find is this "we'll still be able to eliminate all Hamas's capabilities under this":

In response to yesterday’s UN Security Council vote calling for both Israel and Hamas to agree to a ceasefire deal, an Israeli official says that “Israel will not end the war before achieving all of its goals — eliminating Hamas’s military and civil capabilities, returning all of our hostages, and ensuring that Gaza never again represents a threat to Israel.”

“The proposal that was presented allows Israel to meet these conditions, and it will do so,” says the official, reiterating previous statements on the ceasefire terms that US President Joe Biden outlined in a speech late last month.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-official-says-current-truce-proposal-allows-israel-to-meet-its-war-aims/

And I can't really see how that fits the resolution:

Phase one includes an “immediate, full, and complete ceasefire with the release of hostages including women, the elderly and the wounded, the return of the remains of some hostages who have been killed, and the exchange of Palestinian prisoners”.

It calls for the withdrawal of Israeli forces from “populated areas” of Gaza, the return of Palestinians to their homes and neighbourhoods throughout the enclave, including in the north, as well as the safe and effective distribution of humanitarian assistance at scale.

Phase two would see a permanent end to hostilities “in exchange for the release of all other hostages still in Gaza, and a full withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza”.

In phase three, “a major multi-year reconstruction plan for Gaza” would begin and the remains of any deceased hostages still in the Strip would be returned to Israel.

The Council also underlined the proposal’s provision that if negotiations take longer than six weeks for phase one, the ceasefire will continue as long as negotiations continue.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/06/1150886

I don't see the "phase in which Israel starts fighting Hamas again" there.

[sarisataka]

11. I do not believe Israel has formally responded to Hamas changes

but to the original proposal, Blinken's statement from another article today:

“Everyone’s vote is in, except for one vote, and that’s Hamas,” Blinken told reporters in Tel Aviv after meeting with Israeli officials. He said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had reaffirmed his commitment to the proposal when they met earlier in the week.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/hamas-says-it-gave-mediators-its-response-to-gaza-ceasefire-plan-with-some-remarks/GZFJMKKURBDC3FVGIJ5JE5KLKM/

[muriel_volestrangler]

15. So Israel is committed to a six week ceasefire, extended indefinitely if needed until a permanent ceasefire is agreed

meaning it's committed to not restarting any fighting, unless Hamas does first. But it will still somehow end Hamas's civil capabilities under this, as well as its military ones (I can see that if there's a permanent ceasefire, Hamas has no meaningful military capability, because it only attacks Israel).

[sarisataka]

16. If it get the Palestinian people

Out of the line of fire and frees hostages I think it is good

Once the hostages are home it would be much more difficult for Netanyahu to refuse the fighting without Hamas give cause

[Ponietz]

3. There's an ocean between '"accepting" and "negotiating over details"

Last paragraph:

Blinken said the Hamas statement was "a hopeful sign" but definitive word was still needed from the Hamas leadership inside Israeli-besieged Gaza. "That's what counts, and that's what we don't have yet."

Those pesky details. Let’s just run it with “accepts”.

[SunSeeker]

13. Really misleading headline. Hamas did not accept any of the proposed terms.

They just agreed to negotiate.