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Polybius

(18,272 posts)
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:38 PM Jul 2024

Democratic Leader Tells Joe Biden Party Needs More 'Energetic Candidate'

Source: Newsweek

A member of the Democratic leadership has said the party needs a more "energetic candidate" than President Joe Biden to take on Donald Trump in the 2024 election.

In a statement, Senator Patty Murray, a six-term veteran of the Senate who serves as the upper chamber's president pro tempore and has been part of the party's leadership since 2001, said the incumbent president "must do more" to win November's vote.

Biden has faced growing calls to leave the 2024 race following a presidential debate on June 27, in which he gave a series of incoherent and confusing responses and appeared to trail off at times without finishing sentences. A Biden aide previously told Newsweek that the president had a cold. He also said he had been tired from international travel and had no plans to drop out of the race.

"More than a week since the debate, and after talking with my constituents, I believe President Biden must do more to demonstrate he can campaign strong enough to beat Donald Trump," Murray said on Monday.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-patty-murray-2024-election-1922598



Now that Biden has undoubtably stated that he's not leaving the race, this doesn't help.
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Democratic Leader Tells Joe Biden Party Needs More 'Energetic Candidate' (Original Post) Polybius Jul 2024 OP
The Party needs to support the current nominee! 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2024 #1
I've yet to see you break dancin... OneBlueDotS-Carolina Jul 2024 #2
She's got moves like Elaine Benes. So I'm told. oasis Jul 2024 #19
Subject Line not what the OLD Senator said. 6 x 6 36 years nodding off in the senate Traurigkeit Jul 2024 #3
But Murray did NOT say the party needed a more energetic candidate... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #4
More energetic? The problem with that is 2 yr olds aren't allowed to run for president unless you can get the fascist ImNotGod Jul 2024 #5
As a corollary, when I've gone to court for a client, no_hypocrisy Jul 2024 #6
Disappointing. Basing this on the debate performance? livetohike Jul 2024 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Jul 2024 #8
Why don't they just take no for an answer? BlueKota Jul 2024 #9
Yeah, energetic, that's what we need in a President. bullimiami Jul 2024 #10
Well, what are the qualities a POTUS needs? maxsolomon Jul 2024 #15
I value decency, empathy, competence, honesty. Bidens got all that. bullimiami Jul 2024 #16
you've got to articulate those values as a politician, unfortunately. maxsolomon Jul 2024 #18
She's talking stupid JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #11
You're not helping, Patty. nt SunSeeker Jul 2024 #12
My senator since the 1990s with all my support for her needs to stop helping TSF and hurting our great POTUS! keopeli Jul 2024 #13
Shut up Patty. This is essentially meaningless and doesn't help anything. maxsolomon Jul 2024 #14
You beat me to it! Linda ladeewolf Jul 2024 #17

Think. Again.

(18,928 posts)
4. But Murray did NOT say the party needed a more energetic candidate...
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:45 PM
Jul 2024

...Murray said the party's candidate needed to be more energetic.

(Don't tell me newsweek writers don't understand how words work.)

ImNotGod

(460 posts)
5. More energetic? The problem with that is 2 yr olds aren't allowed to run for president unless you can get the fascist
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:45 PM
Jul 2024

scotus to rule against that law.

no_hypocrisy

(49,139 posts)
6. As a corollary, when I've gone to court for a client,
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:45 PM
Jul 2024

I've prevailed without seeming "energetic". I've laid out well-organized, logical, evidence-supported arguments, which may or may not be interesting. As an attorney before the bar, my energy has to be enough not to make the jury and the judge fall asleep. That's it.

Joe Biden is not Donald Trump at a rally, shaking it up. We don't need entertainment. We need reliable leadership.

livetohike

(23,036 posts)
7. Disappointing. Basing this on the debate performance?
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:46 PM
Jul 2024

Energetic? I’d like to see her keep up with Pres. Biden’s schedule for one week. She’s 73, so maybe her constituents will be closely watching her energy level.

Response to Polybius (Original post)

BlueKota

(3,720 posts)
9. Why don't they just take no for an answer?
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:56 PM
Jul 2024

He already said he won't drop out. All this does is keep it in the news, thereby helping Trump. Bad strategy.

maxsolomon

(35,338 posts)
15. Well, what are the qualities a POTUS needs?
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 04:08 PM
Jul 2024

Is oratory important? It's a big part of why Obama mopped the floor with McCain & Rmoney.

I require a clear moral center. Biden's got that.

maxsolomon

(35,338 posts)
18. you've got to articulate those values as a politician, unfortunately.
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 08:21 PM
Jul 2024

what we're looking at is a crisis of confidence in Biden's ability to sell himself.

keopeli

(3,579 posts)
13. My senator since the 1990s with all my support for her needs to stop helping TSF and hurting our great POTUS!
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 03:00 PM
Jul 2024

maxsolomon

(35,338 posts)
14. Shut up Patty. This is essentially meaningless and doesn't help anything.
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 04:05 PM
Jul 2024

Biden just needs to stop swallowing the start of his sentences. He's both quieter and more slurred, and its more pronounced than in 2020. The change is noticeable. I know he has struggled with stuttering.

Perhaps some elocution practice a la Geoffrey Rush in The King's Speech?

Linda ladeewolf

(477 posts)
17. You beat me to it!
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 05:08 PM
Jul 2024

I scrolled all the way down just to say “shut up Patty!” These people need to shut up and get a clue and support our nominee.

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