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jsr

(7,712 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:39 PM Dec 2012

Ala. hospital must pay $140M in ex-patient's death

Source: Associated Press

BAY MINETTE, Ala. (AP) -- The family of a 59-year-old diabetic woman who was mistakenly given a lethal dose of insulin at an Alabama hospital has been awarded a $140 million judgment.

AL.com (http://bit.ly/Y3h1tT) reports that a Baldwin County Circuit Court judge ordered Thomas Hospital and three other firms to pay the family of Sharron Juno, of Daphne, who died in 2008.

The website reports when Juno was discharged from Thomas, her doctor dictated prescription information by phone that was then computerized and relayed to India. The orders were incorrectly copied and the woman died after being given 10 times the amount of insulin she needed at another hospital.

A Thomas Hospital administrator expressed condolences toward the family, but says the verdict was excessive and the hospital plans to file an appeal.



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ala-hospital-pay-140m-patients-death-17979811





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Ala. hospital must pay $140M in ex-patient's death (Original Post) jsr Dec 2012 OP
How dare that hospital appeal? lbrtbell Dec 2012 #1
Guess that transcription by Indian workers was not as cheap as expected. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #2
Pretty much a nutshell of why healthcare costs are stupid high Dreamer Tatum Dec 2012 #3
Not so much. phylny Dec 2012 #4
No, it's a bill for malpractice insurance Dreamer Tatum Dec 2012 #16
Deal with it? phylny Dec 2012 #23
that's not insane SemperEadem Dec 2012 #6
So, yours is worth less than that. Occulus Dec 2012 #9
$1 is as goofy as $140M. marble falls Dec 2012 #11
Mine is absolutely worth less than $140M. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2012 #17
You're absolutely and completely wrong. The Stranger Dec 2012 #12
Oh brother. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2012 #18
"Logical fallacies?" Just try Google. The Stranger Dec 2012 #22
Buying a few judges will be cheaper than 140 million. It's clear the hospital valerief Dec 2012 #5
It's probably the decision of the attorney for the insurance company unless the juajen Dec 2012 #8
It seems her Rx was 8 units of Levemir and the hospital injected 80 struggle4progress Dec 2012 #7
$1.4 million is rediculous. marble falls Dec 2012 #10
The policy behind punitive damages is to create an economic disincentive to an organization that is The Stranger Dec 2012 #13
That's the concept as faulty as it is. Ford building exploding Pintos because it was cheaper to .... marble falls Dec 2012 #19
All the more reason this person shouldn't have died from something so (apparently) routine. The Stranger Dec 2012 #21
When dealing with human beings, terrible mistakes do happen. zellie Dec 2012 #14
The Mr has diabetes arikara Dec 2012 #15
My thoughts exactly. du_grad Dec 2012 #20

lbrtbell

(2,389 posts)
1. How dare that hospital appeal?
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:40 PM
Dec 2012

They murdered that patient through inexcusable negligence. They should shut up and pay up.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. Guess that transcription by Indian workers was not as cheap as expected.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:04 PM
Dec 2012

The thing is, the Dr. is supposed to read and sign off on all completed transcriptions in a patient's chart, thus hopefully insuring mistakes are caught, so I can't figure out how that did not happen.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
3. Pretty much a nutshell of why healthcare costs are stupid high
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:23 AM
Dec 2012

Because a judge decides that one 59-year-old life is worth $140M. That is insane.

phylny

(8,381 posts)
4. Not so much.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:47 AM
Dec 2012

The judgment is also a warning to this and other hospitals that being careless and negligent is costly.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
16. No, it's a bill for malpractice insurance
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:07 PM
Dec 2012

which finds its way into salaries and hospital bills.

Sorry - deal with it.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
6. that's not insane
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:45 AM
Dec 2012

your life might not be worth that, but clearly others think differently about this woman.

$140m is the punishment to the hospital whose choice to outsource a job across the globe as a cost cutting measure caused the unforeseen death in a woman who should not have died as a result of seeking care through their facility. If they can afford to pay an company in India to get scripts wrong, they can afford this judgment.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
17. Mine is absolutely worth less than $140M.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:09 PM
Dec 2012

In fact, mine is worth the mortality-weighted average of my life insurance and my expected future earnings plus an amount
for the pain and suffering of my loved ones.

Which makes my life worth roughly $6mm, or a small fraction of that $140m.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
5. Buying a few judges will be cheaper than 140 million. It's clear the hospital
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:35 AM
Dec 2012

has no regard for doing what is right or for the benefit of their patients. It's just another money machine.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
8. It's probably the decision of the attorney for the insurance company unless the
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:57 AM
Dec 2012

hospital is self insured. Appeals on that amount of money are automatic mostly. I actually know quite a bit about hospital malpractice.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
7. It seems her Rx was 8 units of Levemir and the hospital injected 80
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:50 AM
Dec 2012

Last edited Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:26 PM - Edit history (1)

People have survived much more massive overdoses, so she probably could have survived that if anyone had been monitoring her regularly and had caught the error in time

... staffers gave Juno 80 units of Levemir insulin – 10 times the dosage prescribed ...
Fatal outsourcing? Thomas Hospital hit with $140 million verdict in death of Daphne woman
Brendan Kirby
on December 14, 2012 at 4:42 PM
updated December 14, 2012 at 10:47 PM
http://blog.al.com/live/2012/12/fatal_outsourcing_thomas_hospi.html

... A 52-year-old insulin-dependant diabetic man presented to the Emergency Department 2 hours after a deliberate massive overdose of 2100 units of long-acting Levemir insulin and a large quantity of whisky ... He experienced his last hypoglycaemic episode 41 hours after taking the overdose and dextrose infusions were continued for 62 hours in total. Metformin was restarted 10 hours after stopping the dextrose infusion ... Von Mach et al. have shown that half of cases of overdose present within the first six hours after the overdose. 2.7% of insulin overdose patients will have long-term cerebral defects whilst mortality is 2.7%. Prognosis is poorer in patients who are admitted unconscious 12 hours after overdose ... Levemir is a long-acting insulin which delivers a constant level of insulin between meals. The long duration of action of Levemir and concurrent alcohol usage may have contributed to the persistent hypoglycaemic episodes ...
Case Reports in Medicine
Volume 2012 (2012), Article ID 904841, 3 pages
doi:10.1155/2012/904841Case ReportMassive Levemir (Long-Acting) Insulin Overdose: Case Report
Mamatha Oduru and Mahmood Ahmad
http://www.hindawi.com/crim/medicine/2012/904841/

The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
13. The policy behind punitive damages is to create an economic disincentive to an organization that is
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:26 PM
Dec 2012

(apparently) grossly negligent. For decades, automobile companies manufactured vehicles known to be defective. However, until the economic costs of settling the deaths and maimings from the defect became more than the cost of re-outfitting the vehicles, the automobile companies deemed it was financially feasible (if not advisable, from that very narrow standpoint) to continue manufacturing defective vehicles that were killing people.

This is the reason why courts must be able to issue damages awards like this.

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
19. That's the concept as faulty as it is. Ford building exploding Pintos because it was cheaper to ....
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:17 PM
Dec 2012

settle wrongful death than to pay $50 a car to fix the flaw is not the same as the case above, a very rare circumstance. People are given insulin 1000's of time a day in hospitals.

 

zellie

(437 posts)
14. When dealing with human beings, terrible mistakes do happen.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:39 PM
Dec 2012

doctors
cops
firemen
hairdressers
chimney sweeps

arikara

(5,562 posts)
15. The Mr has diabetes
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:00 PM
Dec 2012

and we are very aware of the insulin dose he takes. Any medical person - doctor or nurse - who administers the drug on a regular basis to patients should likewise be aware of dosages. Sure the orders were wrong, which is bad enough but I can't understand why the person who administered it didn't question the dose. Unless of course staff has been cut back and are stressed to the max trying to cope with the workload and don't have a chance to think. That's my guess since the bastards are farming out what they can to India to maximize profit.

This shit makes me so angry.

du_grad

(221 posts)
20. My thoughts exactly.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:15 PM
Dec 2012

I am not a nurse, but I am a medical technologist in a clinical laboratory and my mother has a history of diabetes controlled by insulin. A dose of 80 units is pretty high. Somebody should have checked on the previous dosage. Of course, if they are hiring agency nurses who don't know the patient's history this could be part of the problem. The other part is that nobody monitored this patient.

It makes me angry too, arikara.

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