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alp227

(32,034 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:09 PM Dec 2012

Most Governors Refuse to Set Up Health Exchanges

Source: NYT

The Obama administration said Friday that more than half the states had rejected its pleas to set up their own health insurance exchanges, dealing a setback to President Obama’s hopes that Republicans would join a White House campaign to provide health insurance to all Americans.

Friday was the deadline for states to notify the federal government of their plans, and administration officials had been hoping that Mr. Obama’s re-election would overcome resistance to the new health care law.

Federal officials said they knew of 17 states that intended to run their own exchanges, as Congress intended.

Two of those states, New York and Kentucky, won conditional federal approval on Friday for their plans to create and run state-based exchanges. Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, also approved an application from the District of Columbia.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/us/most-states-miss-deadline-to-set-up-health-exchanges.html

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Most Governors Refuse to Set Up Health Exchanges (Original Post) alp227 Dec 2012 OP
That's ok in the long game Flatpicker Dec 2012 #1
Actually it could do that, because the HEW exchanges will have bigger pools, ergo more pricing & patrice Dec 2012 #5
that's what I'm thinking LynneSin Dec 2012 #7
They'll still get health care insurance exchanges, just that those exchanges will be designed by patrice Dec 2012 #2
Maybe all states should have declined then we could have set up a federal system. dkf Dec 2012 #3
Maybe in the long run this is better? I trust the Federal gov. more to set this up than TPTB RKP5637 Dec 2012 #4
I feel the same way about our Wis. Gov. midnight Dec 2012 #10
I am with you on this ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #12
To me, there should be consistently from state to state and it would seem having RKP5637 Dec 2012 #22
Agreed KatyMan Dec 2012 #24
but I bet those bastards support the NRA Skittles Dec 2012 #6
They love them there guns here. Can't be a man without a big gun! RKP5637 Dec 2012 #23
California has a website devoted to its healthcare exchange. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #8
that page needs a summary description of the exchange and what it actually does, including msongs Dec 2012 #9
I suspect that they are in the process of setting up the exchange. Don't know that for a fact. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #15
I imagine it would include a policy search BadgerKid Dec 2012 #26
The exchanges will work like Travelocity or Priceline type websites underpants Dec 2012 #28
"... President Obama’s hopes that Republicans would join a White House campaign ..." Seriously? markpkessinger Dec 2012 #11
Oh good grief.. PBO had hoped but that doesn't mean Cha Dec 2012 #17
Having both a federal exchange and a number of state exchanges is a good thing Kennah Dec 2012 #13
"Gun Owners of America Claims Obamacare will "Take Away Your Guns" TomCADem Dec 2012 #14
I can think of two people who need their guns taken away jmowreader Dec 2012 #19
Yep HawkeyeLibkid Dec 2012 #16
Where's that? And Welcome to DU, Cha Dec 2012 #18
This is nothing more than wanting the feds to do it for them because that is the way it will be. jwirr Dec 2012 #20
Then the federal government will do it. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #21
And IN is another one. Brigid Dec 2012 #25
I thought that donco Dec 2012 #27

patrice

(47,992 posts)
5. Actually it could do that, because the HEW exchanges will have bigger pools, ergo more pricing &
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:17 PM
Dec 2012

services covered options.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
7. that's what I'm thinking
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:33 PM
Dec 2012

I was reading the article about Corbett rejecting it and first thing I thought is that thanks to people like Corbett - in 10 years we'll have single payer.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
2. They'll still get health care insurance exchanges, just that those exchanges will be designed by
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:12 PM
Dec 2012

HEW and the states themselves will have less say in what their exchange is like.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
4. Maybe in the long run this is better? I trust the Federal gov. more to set this up than TPTB
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:15 PM
Dec 2012

in my teabagger state.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
12. I am with you on this
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:33 AM
Dec 2012

I never understood the state exchanges and tend to think the Feds will do better than some of the states would.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
22. To me, there should be consistently from state to state and it would seem having
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:41 AM
Dec 2012

the Feds do it would ensure consistency.

msongs

(67,420 posts)
9. that page needs a summary description of the exchange and what it actually does, including
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:33 AM
Dec 2012

services. it is not that useful as published

BadgerKid

(4,553 posts)
26. I imagine it would include a policy search
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:58 AM
Dec 2012

akin to what people can do on the Medicare web site. Just a guess, though.

underpants

(182,830 posts)
28. The exchanges will work like Travelocity or Priceline type websites
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:54 PM
Dec 2012

you enter in your info (age, sex, smoker?, weight, zip code, etc.) and the site gives you the insurance plans that are available to you. You then decide which to go with.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
11. "... President Obama’s hopes that Republicans would join a White House campaign ..." Seriously?
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:28 AM
Dec 2012
". . . dealing a setback to President Obama’s hopes that Republicans would join a White House campaign to provide health insurance to all Americans."


I really, sincerely hope that was a bit of editorializing on the part of the NY Times, because if it wasn't, and the President really was banking on such hope, it is inexcusably naive.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
17. Oh good grief.. PBO had hoped but that doesn't mean
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:19 AM
Dec 2012

he thought they would. What was he was suppose to say?.. That he knew they were too fucking determined to not help their citizens out to implement OBAMACARE?

Kennah

(14,276 posts)
13. Having both a federal exchange and a number of state exchanges is a good thing
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:45 AM
Dec 2012

We will get to see a live experiment as to whether a federally healthcare program, like the UK NHS, or something mandated by a future federal law but run by the state, a bit more like Switzerland though not entirely, would work better.

Here in Washington, we are doing our part leading the charge to build an exchange. It's all good. Just part of the experiment for a future universal healthcare law.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
14. "Gun Owners of America Claims Obamacare will "Take Away Your Guns"
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:47 AM
Dec 2012

The right wing has been pendaling the idea that Obamacare is a means of gun control.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/gun-owners-america-claims-obamacare-will-take-away-your-guns

Larry Pratt, head of the Religious Right group 'Gun Owners of America,' recently appeared on VCY America’s Crosstalk radio show where he claimed that Obamacare would be used by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to take away guns from law-abiding Americans, reports RightWingWatch.org.

Pratt said: &quot Obamacare) says that all of our medical records are available to be pawed through by bureaucrats somewhere in Washington, looking for a reason to disenfranchise gun owners, to say: ‘Oh you have a medical diagnosis that means you might be a danger to yourself or others so we’re going to come and knock on the door for the BATF to take away your guns.’"

There is a law that screens out people, such as the mentally ill, through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System to prevent them from purchasing guns. However, this law was signed by President Bush.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
19. I can think of two people who need their guns taken away
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:14 AM
Dec 2012

Larry Pratt and Wayne LaPierre have this weird delusion that lets them see everything the president does as a reason to take away your guns. This makes themself a danger to themselves and others, mandating the government take away not only their guns but also their microphones.

HawkeyeLibkid

(76 posts)
16. Yep
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:27 AM
Dec 2012

At least my Republican Governor Terry Branstad is smart enough to know what to do. He's not my favorite guy by any means, but he's got something right here.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
20. This is nothing more than wanting the feds to do it for them because that is the way it will be.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:55 AM
Dec 2012

Then they can set back and either take credit for success when it works or blame the feds if it fails. Cowards.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
21. Then the federal government will do it.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:23 AM
Dec 2012

How stupid of these governors.

When the Feds come in and set it up themselves, these same people will scream and shout about big-government's "intrusion" into the affairs of states -- even though they had the opportunity to do this themselves at the state level.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
25. And IN is another one.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:55 AM
Dec 2012

I don't want to hear any whining from that idiot Pence when the Feds do it for him.

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