GOP Rep. To Introduce Bill To Stop Treasury From Creating Trillion Dollar Coins
Source: TPM
Rep. Greg Walden (R-OR) on Monday announced that he will introduce a bill to stop the much-ballyhooed proposal for the U.S. Treasury Department to mint trillion dollar platinum coins in an effort to avoid the debt ceiling.
The statement:
Some people are in denial about the need to reduce spending and balance the budget. This scheme to mint trillion dollar platinum coins is absurd and dangerous, and would be laughable if the proponents werent so serious about it as a solution. Im introducing a bill to stop it in its tracks, Rep. Walden said.
My wife and I have owned and operated a small business since 1986. When it came time to pay the bills, we couldnt just mint a coin to create more money out of thin air. We sat down and figured out how to balance the books. Thats what Washington needs to do as well. My bill will take the coin scheme off the table by disallowing the Treasury to mint platinum coins as a way to pay down the debt. We must reduce spending and get our fiscal house in order, Rep. Walden said.
Within the last week, numerous media reports (example here) have suggested that the U.S. Mint could create trillion dollar platinum coins, which would then be deposited into the Federal Reserve to be used to pay the federal governments bills or avoid hitting the debt ceiling. Rep. Jerrold Nadler, the ranking member of the Judiciary Committees Subcommittee on the Constitution, touted the proposal last week (storyhere). New York Times columnist and Princeton professor Paul Krugman suggested the idea in an article as well (click here). Other leaders in Washington, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, have urged the President to raise the debt limit unilaterally without permission from Congress.
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TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Flashmann
(2,140 posts)Wouldn't the bill proposed by this idiot,(GOP rep,idiot,toMAYto,toMAHto)have to get through the senate,then be signed by the VERY guy he wants to stop from using that tactic??
O.M.G...The stupid really does hurt!!
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)just like Michelle Bachmann introducing legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act. She should be considered a traitor for using public money for something that is going nowhere.
But for this treasury coin making scheme, the bill would first have to be taken up in the House (not sure Boehner boy wants to bring forward this kind of crap so early in the new Congress) and pass there. Then it would have to go to the Senate where Majority Leader Reid would certainly not even bring it for a vote. Even if it was brought before the Senate, the Dems would never pass it. Even if it passed in the Senate the President would veto it and I doubt Congress could muster the 2/3 necessary for an override.
This is expensive theatrics. Guy is a traitor and should be hung at sunrise.
RC
(25,592 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)to veto. You know like funding for supporting veterans or something.
pasto76
(1,589 posts)since bills funding veterans programs havent had much luck getting out of the House. And the senate doesnt fight very hard to beat a filibuster threat.
Gman
(24,780 posts)which is a lot of what this is about.
indepat
(20,899 posts)How juvenile and absurdly asinine.
meegbear
(25,438 posts)I wonder who'd be on the trillion?
the_chinuk
(332 posts)He's from the (geographic) 2/3rds of Oregon that, for some reason, thinks Republicans are honorable truth-tellers. He doesn't represent the smarter part of the state.
We keep hoping the rest of our state gets with the brain program, but you know, they're our fellow Oregonians. We love them anyhow.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)then those of us in the south can do the same with our dimwit R's
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)brooklynite
(94,571 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)marble falls
(57,083 posts)The CCC
(463 posts)It is an act of treason to call into question the full faith and credit of the US. Since Republicans are so all fired happy to keep GITMO open. That's a good place for them.
broadcaster75201
(387 posts)nt
Volaris
(10,271 posts)seems we have struck a bit of a nerve with this....
eggplant
(3,911 posts)Ouch. The stupid. It burns.
I think O should do it purely as a fuck you move.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)One a politician/citizen attempt to argument national fiscal policy by citing to their private business or their household finances ... without recognizing that the comparators have very little in common. I general request that they educate themselves by using the google to learn about "Sovereign Currency."
Further, I am amazed where these same people argue against "creat(ung)/printing money out of thin air" ... without recognizing that business (specifically, banking) is the inventor of "creating money out of thin air" (see fractional reserve requirement).
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)It is amazing how so many are so clueless about basic stuff like fractional lending.
And it is indeed creating money out of vapor, and perfectly legal.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I would love for mschool boards, across the country, to revise their 6-12th grade curricula to include Financial Literacy ... then, maybe we would be having fewer discussions like this.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)included one quarter on basic principles of government finance, taxation and our banking system, as part of the required course in American Government.
If you didn't pass AG, you flunked the year, no matter what you did on your other classes; it was a required 'pass' to graduate.
They offered it both junior and senior year, and every summer school session, so students had plenty of tries to pass it.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)your school district seems tpo be in the vast minority. My school ... way back in the 70's ... had a government course (Civics), but was just a little more in-depth than that School Rock animated video of "Bill."
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)But, yeah, we still have pretty good school system, it's one thing that is still run fairly well in our city.
shawn703
(2,702 posts)Would depositing it at the Fed in essence knock down the national debt a trillion dollars somehow? If it wouldn't hurt the economy any, why not mint a $16.4 trillion dollar coin and deposit it at the Fed?
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Theoretically, it could. What it would probably be used for is to finance future spending.
Because adding that much money would probably cause hyperinflation. $1 Trillion isn't likely to be a problem, since we could use some inflation right now to get out of the zero lower bound. But the entire debt would probably cause too much inflation.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)TygrBright
(20,760 posts)We need new charts every year the GOP controls Congress...
amusedly,
Bright
reverend_tim
(105 posts)It should be a three headed coin, Regan on one side, and the Bushes on the other.
Volaris
(10,271 posts)or would they just walk around in a happy stupor thinking "Hey, they put Reagan on a Coin. 'Bout damn time..."
reverend_tim
(105 posts)Ezlivin
(8,153 posts)I guess Rep. Walden will tend to other legislative matters once his lobbyists tell him it's time.
november3rd
(1,113 posts)I would hate to drop a $1 trillion coin on the subway tracks!
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Imagine if this was it.
That's more than a ton of solid gold Australian 50 million-dollar coin.
http://www.businessinsider.com/australia-mint-largest-gold-coin-2011-11
There must be a vending machine full of Maseratis and Ferraris somewhere.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)Only fitting.........
IDemo
(16,926 posts)Panasonic
(2,921 posts)Any bill trying to stop Democrats from doing their constitutents' work will be ignored.
Also, sanctions against the House Republicans are in order.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)...as I read Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution, there's not a problem coining the trillion and a Constitutional Amendment is necessary to change that.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)he could be stopping a future GOP President from giving
trillion dollar tax cuts to billionaires?
Shameful!
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)I wonder if they'll work at Kmart
padruig
(133 posts)Has anyone mentioned to Rep. Walden that the minting of these coins are called out in the Constitution of the United States ?
Rozlee
(2,529 posts)These guys are starting the new year with more stupid than they ended last year.