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brooklynite

(94,516 posts)
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:15 PM Jan 2013

Campos wants Harvey Milk's name on SFO

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

A San Francisco supervisor wants to rename the city's airport in honor of civil rights leader Harvey Milk, a change supporters said would send a global message about the importance and struggles of gays and lesbians for equality.

Supervisor David Campos will introduce legislation Tuesday that would place the proposal to rename San Francisco International Airport as Harvey Milk San Francisco International Airport before voters in November. To send the name change to voters, Campos needs the support of five other supervisors, and Monday he already had four co-sponsors.

Campos said about 80 other U.S. airports are already named for individuals, none of whom are gay, and that SFO - which moves 40 million passengers annually, including 9 million international travelers - has a particularly high profile. He believes it would cost between $50,000 and $250,000 to implement, citing the cost other cities have incurred to do the same, but said he hopes to attract private donations to fund the change.

Milk was a San Francisco supervisor when he and Mayor George Moscone were shot and killed by Dan White, a former supervisor, at City Hall on Nov. 27, 1978. He was one of the first openly gay people elected in the United States, and "has become an international symbol of civil rights, not just LGBT rights," Campos said.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Campos-wants-Harvey-Milk-s-name-on-SFO-4194091.php



I'm happy with the change; just don't join in the recent habit of "appending" the new name onto the old one.
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Campos wants Harvey Milk's name on SFO (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2013 OP
Gosh we are landing at Milk Airport. Na doesn't sound right. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #1
Probably "Milk International" brooklynite Jan 2013 #2
No offense to Mr Milk I just don't think they should name it Milk. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #4
How about Harvey International? Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #8
I just don't like the name. It has nothing to do with the person who I think was a very southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #18
Why not? Do think he is worthy of the honor? dbackjon Jan 2013 #13
Oh no I think he deserves many honors but I just think Milk is odd to name an airport. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #17
And Bush is? Or Reagan? dbackjon Jan 2013 #22
I wish they wouldn't name any airport after politicans, period. Name them the state they are in. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #23
Name them for the state? There would be half a dozen "California Airport"s within driving distance. LeftyMom Jan 2013 #53
The city within the state. Such as Nashville Airport,Baltimore Airport or the city capital of the southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #55
It is right there in the OP-Harvey Milk San Francisco International Airport Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #9
not to me it doesn't CreekDog Jan 2013 #38
When I think Milk I think of drinking it, not an airport. But name it what you want. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #48
I detest the "naming" of airports Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #3
I don't mind airports. There aren't that many of them. But... Smarmie Doofus Jan 2013 #6
When was the last time you really complained about the Major Deegan Expressway? brooklynite Jan 2013 #21
I don't know about Deegan The Second Stone Jan 2013 #31
He was a Brooklyn Party boss... brooklynite Jan 2013 #49
Deegan is a CLASSIC example. THREE names for one hiway. Smarmie Doofus Jan 2013 #35
In fairness... brooklynite Jan 2013 #50
And who in the world EVER thought pangaia Jan 2013 #52
Point is it was *always* the GWB. If someone tells you to go over the GWB... Smarmie Doofus Jan 2013 #54
What I don't like is when an airport is already known by its location and a name gets attached Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #46
I cringe of the name, but I'll go for it Victor_c3 Jan 2013 #5
I welcome the new name, should have been changed years ago putitinD Jan 2013 #7
Is SFO actually in San Francisco alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Jan 2013 #11
Why don't you like it? dbackjon Jan 2013 #14
None of the people who are against the name will say why. Of course. Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #15
yup! dbackjon Jan 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Jan 2013 #28
Really? this is the SHIT you come up with? dbackjon Jan 2013 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Jan 2013 #30
So fucking what if he sponsored a pooper scooper law dbackjon Jan 2013 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Jan 2013 #41
and they are actually wrong about Milk too CreekDog Jan 2013 #47
Well, Mayor Moscone already has the convention center KamaAina Jan 2013 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Jan 2013 #36
you have no more character assassination of Harvey Milk to do? CreekDog Jan 2013 #45
You are a disgrace to San Francisco and an ignorant one as well CreekDog Jan 2013 #42
the airport isn't in South San Francisco CreekDog Jan 2013 #43
SFO is run by San Francisco, although it's in San Mateo County CreekDog Jan 2013 #40
That is better than selling corporate naming rights. Like maybe the Samsung International Airport olddad56 Jan 2013 #12
Funny how I don't remember people finding "John Wayne" a strange name for DryRain Jan 2013 #19
Or "Reagan National" . . . HughBeaumont Jan 2013 #20
Just wondering, were Reagan and John Wayne ever in a movie together? DryRain Jan 2013 #24
I'm ok with the name change. RexDart Jan 2013 #26
Or even worse, Dulles International. named after John Foster Dulles. olddad56 Jan 2013 #25
Or Bob Hope or Louis Armstrong KamaAina Jan 2013 #33
Not the entire airport. SCVDem Jan 2013 #27
Why the airport? Turns out there's a very good reason. KamaAina Jan 2013 #34
That, I approve. Much better selection then say, Ronald Reagan Airport Stringfellow Hawke Jan 2013 #37
It will be appended. They are proposing "Harvey Milk San Francisco International Airport " Xithras Jan 2013 #44
I. Love. This! Politicub Jan 2013 #51
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. How about Harvey International?
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:42 PM
Jan 2013

Milk sound better for landing than Deadhorse Airport, Eek Airport, or Ronald Reagan or John Wayne Airports.
They are not suggesting naming the airport simply 'Milk' if you read the OP the name would be Harvey Milk San Francisco International Airport.
What are you specific complaints about that?

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
18. I just don't like the name. It has nothing to do with the person who I think was a very
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:36 PM
Jan 2013

honorable man who lost his life way to early. I don't like naming airports after people anyway. If they want to name an airport name it after the state the airport is in.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
23. I wish they wouldn't name any airport after politicans, period. Name them the state they are in.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:11 PM
Jan 2013

No I don't like Bush or Reagan either.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
53. Name them for the state? There would be half a dozen "California Airport"s within driving distance.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:21 PM
Jan 2013

Think, then post.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
55. The city within the state. Such as Nashville Airport,Baltimore Airport or the city capital of the
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:53 AM
Jan 2013

state. Those are just two but I guess you get my point.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
48. When I think Milk I think of drinking it, not an airport. But name it what you want.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:05 PM
Jan 2013

It's your airport. Like I said I don't want any airport named after any politician.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
3. I detest the "naming" of airports
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:25 PM
Jan 2013

but as long as National is named Reagan, I'm good with SFO be named for Milk.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
6. I don't mind airports. There aren't that many of them. But...
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:56 PM
Jan 2013

... I detest the short-sidedness and plain stupidity behind the serial renaming of bridges, tunnels and streets.

New York is the worst offender. One now travels from NJ to BKLYN by using the Joe Dimaggio Hiway ( West Side Hiway) to the Robert F Kennedy ( Triborough) Bridge and come back thru the Hugh Carey (Brooklyn- Battery) Tunnel.

It's not confusing enough traveling around this town.

brooklynite

(94,516 posts)
21. When was the last time you really complained about the Major Deegan Expressway?
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:58 PM
Jan 2013

It wasn't even named for a war hero (he was in the Army Corps of Engineers).

How about the Holland Tunnel (named for the project engineer)?

Or the Outerbridge Crossing (named for the Port Authority Chairman)?

Only difference is that you're used to them.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
31. I don't know about Deegan
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jan 2013

but military engineers are definitely capable of being heroes. They build stuff that gets wars won, while under fire.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
35. Deegan is a CLASSIC example. THREE names for one hiway.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:15 PM
Jan 2013

1. Deegan; 2. NYS Thruway; 3. Interstate 87.

Completely idiotic. I thought so thirty years ago when I was driving a cab and I think so now. Only politicians could think this is a good idea.

Name a *statue* after him, ferchrissakes.

Holland Tunnel has ONE name.

We had a Port Authority Chairman named "Outerbridge Crossing"? ( Just kidding; Bronx humor. )

brooklynite

(94,516 posts)
50. In fairness...
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:24 PM
Jan 2013

...it's only the Deegan up to the Westchester County line, and the Thruway north of there.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
52. And who in the world EVER thought
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:13 PM
Jan 2013

of naming a bridge after a Revolutionary War General who cut down cherry trees and crossed a river standing up in an open boat..in the middle of winter...without earmuffs?

(PS we always just call it-- The Bridge)

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
54. Point is it was *always* the GWB. If someone tells you to go over the GWB...
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:25 PM
Jan 2013

.... you know what to do.

If you *rename* it in 2013... or decide to give it multiple names for some idiotic political reason.... you create a needlessly confusing situation. Do this with *every* bridge, tunnel, bypass and thoroughfare ( not to mention the crazy-quilt of renamed streets and squares all over Manhattan and the Bronx; e.g. Father Duffy Square) and you create a traffic hazard rivaling DUI or texting while driving.

The difference is that this one is very easy to avoid.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
46. What I don't like is when an airport is already known by its location and a name gets attached
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:14 PM
Jan 2013

Like Norman Mineta San Jose airport, or Ronald Reagan National airport. Dulles,Logan,LaGuardia & others that are known principally by such names rather than location are okay IMO, it's the trend to hybridize the name to include location that creates unwieldy names and makes the change mostly symbolic. In Boston everyone calls the airport "Logan." In San Jose hardly anyone calls it "Mineta San Jose".
No one calls it "Mineta."

Harvey Milk should have prominent things in this city named for him -- no question that Milk was a giant of his era and had a lasting effect on the city. If people would actually call the airport "Milk" or "Harvey Milk" it'd be one thing, but most people will continue to call it SFO.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
5. I cringe of the name, but I'll go for it
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:28 PM
Jan 2013

Milk international airport just sounds strange.

Harvey Milk had a major impact on the civil (gay) rights fight in our country and I can't think of a better person for San Francisco to name its airport after. I'm looking forward to seeing this take place.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
10. Is SFO actually in San Francisco
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jan 2013

I made so many trips back and forth when I lived there. Isn't it south of Daly City?

Does San Francisco municipal government run SFO?

Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #10)

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
15. None of the people who are against the name will say why. Of course.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:47 PM
Jan 2013

Perhaps we should just name it El Gay X to really get their goats. Interesting that so many had the need to say 'it sounds odd' and such but none of them can offer specifics nor discuss their objections. Seen it and seen it.

Response to dbackjon (Reply #14)

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
29. Really? this is the SHIT you come up with?
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:16 PM
Jan 2013

If this is what you think of Harvey Milk, then why the fuck on you on this site?

Response to dbackjon (Reply #29)

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
39. So fucking what if he sponsored a pooper scooper law
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:25 PM
Jan 2013

Harvey Milk was a pioneer - helping lead a movement to stand up for gay rights.


Yet you keep briinging it up - you are a fucking pathetic, sad person.


Response to dbackjon (Reply #39)

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
47. and they are actually wrong about Milk too
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jan 2013

before they self deleted...their statement that all Milk did was pass the pooper scooper law is factually wrong.

even though Milk only had 11 months as supervisor, he did get the anti-discrimination ordinance passed, with almost universal support among his colleagues, as well as a supportive mayor.

and he was a supervisor who cared about the everyday concerns of his neighborhood district, and as mundane as the dog law might seem, it's exactly what supervisors do, necessary even.

while he was a groundbreaking supervisor for what he represented and was, it was also groundbreaking that his neighborhood, a place with many gays in it, was a neighborhood with regular, mundane concerns and a supervisor who was attentive to them --just like Anyplace, USA.

i was too young to remember clearly any details about when Milk was killed, but in the years that followed, i can assure you that the people that mentioned his name around me didn't think that's all he did.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
32. Well, Mayor Moscone already has the convention center
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jan 2013

has since it was built, a few years after his death.

Response to KamaAina (Reply #32)

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
45. you have no more character assassination of Harvey Milk to do?
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jan 2013


and no, I'm a native of San Francisco, and NO, Milk is known for far more among locals than the Pooper Scooper law.

and in fact, if you asked younger people what he's known for, they won't mention that law, they will mention the things he did and stood for.

the things that you have ignorantly omitted here.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
42. You are a disgrace to San Francisco and an ignorant one as well
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:32 PM
Jan 2013

Harvey Milk wasn't even supervisor for a full year before he was assassinated and among his work passing a non discrimination ordinance in San Francisco that was a landmark by any measure.

at the same time, his efforts in defeating the Briggs' initiative was instrumental in its defeat.

AND AND...that pooper scooper law was actually an important quality of life measure aimed at making parks and dog walking more sanitary than it used to be.

How dare you lie about Milk in this thread.

I don't love renaming the airport, but if anybody deserves it, it is someone who gave his life to end discrimination as he did.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
43. the airport isn't in South San Francisco
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:32 PM
Jan 2013

get it right, but judging by posts down below, you have no interest in getting it right.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
40. SFO is run by San Francisco, although it's in San Mateo County
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:26 PM
Jan 2013

the police at SFO are San Francisco police and sheriff staff.

the Airport Commission is a City and County of SF operation.

the airport borders three cities: South San Francisco (different city and county than San Francisco), San Bruno, and Millbrae.

 

DryRain

(237 posts)
19. Funny how I don't remember people finding "John Wayne" a strange name for
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jan 2013

an airport.

Which guy did more for the advancement of human rights? Which one got rich by making movies demonizing native Americans?

 

DryRain

(237 posts)
24. Just wondering, were Reagan and John Wayne ever in a movie together?
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jan 2013

Just wondering if killing off a few hundred native Americans on the big screen is a ticket to getting an airport named after you.

RexDart

(188 posts)
26. I'm ok with the name change.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jan 2013

However "Harvey Milk San Francisco Interantion Airport" doesn't flow very well.

Anyway, everybody I know will still call it SFO. Except for my grandmother who always refered to it as Mills field.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
25. Or even worse, Dulles International. named after John Foster Dulles.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:36 PM
Jan 2013

A partner in crime of Prescott Bush.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
27. Not the entire airport.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:26 PM
Jan 2013

I think a terminal, like the Bradley terminal at LAX, where there can be a proper display honoring Harvey Milks life.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
34. Why the airport? Turns out there's a very good reason.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:01 PM
Jan 2013
"To be clear, there are other people who (also) merit consideration," he added. "San Francisco has always been at the forefront of the fight for LGBT equality, and so people come here from around the country and around the world because of that, and for 40 million people a year to land at Harvey Milk International Airport sends an incredible message to the world."...

"When you think of the 9 million international visitors, coming from many of the 77 countries where it's still illegal to be LGBT - people forget that there are still 77 countries where it's criminal to be who you are," he said. "To be in Dubai, and see on the board a flight that ends at Harvey Milk San Francisco International Airport, or to be a young Pakistani, in a country where it is illegal to be gay, look up and see the name of a gay icon and feel, 'I am not alone' - it resonates back to my uncle and the calls he got from places like Altoona, Pa., when he was elected."


Flights from (Harvey Milk) SFO serve 68 of those 77 countries.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
44. It will be appended. They are proposing "Harvey Milk San Francisco International Airport "
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:35 PM
Jan 2013

Of course, to those of us who fly through it, it'll keep the existing FAA LID and simply remain "SFO".

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