This Man Helped Save Six Children, Is Now Getting Harassed For It

[cer7711]

Source: Salon.com

“I don’t know what to do,” sighed Gene Rosen. “I’m getting hang up calls, I’m getting some calls, I’m getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I’m lying, that I’m a crisis actor, ‘how much am I being paid?’” Someone posted a photo of his house online. There have been phony Google+ and YouTube accounts created in his name, messages on white supremacist message boards ridiculing the “emotional Jewish guy,” and dozens of blog posts and videos “exposing” him as a fraud. One email purporting to be a business inquiry taunted: “How are all those little students doing? You know, the ones that showed up at your house after the ‘shooting’. What is the going rate for getting involved in a gov’t sponsored hoax anyway?”

“The quantity of the material is overwhelming,” he said. So much so that a friend shields him from most of it by doing daily sweeps of the web so Rosen doesn’t have to. His wife is worried for their safety. He’s logged every email and every call, and consulted with a retired state police officer, who took the complaint seriously but said police probably can’t do anything at the moment, and he plans to do the same with the FBI.

What did Rosen do to deserve this? One month ago, he found six little children and a bus driver at the end of the driveway of his home in Newtown, Connecticut. “We can’t go back to school,” one little boy told Rosen. “Our teacher is dead.” He brought them inside and gave them food and juice and toys. He called their parents. He sat with them and listened to their shocked accounts of what had happened just down the street inside Sandy Hook Elementary, close enough that Rosen heard the gunshots.



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Refusing to acknowledge that this atrocity even took place is to victimize the children, parents and townspeople of Sandy Hook--twice.

[NICO9000]

1. This is just too sick

That asshole who came up with this "crisis actors" bullshit is one evil SOB. I can't believe people are this awful that they could believe something this ridiculous. What an insult to the dead.

[freshwest]

2. Some people are determined to exercise their 1st and 2nd Amendment 'rights' no matter who's hurt.

These are the brownshirts history taught us about but it's all legal...

[siligut]

12. This is gang stalking, a form of domestic terrorism

If they are trying to hide behind their 1st and 2nd Amendment 'rights', it is a fail. They have ventured into the area of gang stalking. Mr. Rosen's rights are being violated and the FBI can get involved.

The Newton police told him that there is nothing they can do, so the poor guy feels helpless, this is the goal of gang stalking.

[freshwest]

17. If the Newtown PD says it can do nothing, I'm sure the FBI can't either?

How many have threatenened Obama's life and not been punished? How many have gone to disrupt town hall meetings, threatened the lives of representatives and their families who voted for the ACA, and are in jail?

Not enough. I suspect that those with more genteel feelings will leave the area. This man will never be at ease again, Infowars is the one who started this and named him as conspirator, and they are immune from prosecution. It's a form of stochastic terrorism, but in no case have the ones who egged people on been punished.

Not one, to my recollection. Because all Americans value their freedom of speech so highly that these guys are being allowed to do this nationally. At times it gets down to such things as the man in Arkansas whose GOP opponent in a local race put out his address on his radio program. He came home to find his children's pet cat beaten to death with the word LIBERAL painted on it in front of the door, so they'd see it as they came home from church.

Nameless thugs do these things, their only punishment is losing an internet account if caught threatening to kill. They're working on killing this man slowly, because they hate Obama and believe anything he is being accused of, Tucson, Aurora, Newton. All of it.

I see no solution to this at all if the local PD can't stop them from intimidating the man in a public place. We have a problem with domestic terrorism by people who would profit from it.

[siligut]

19. He said he opened himself up to it

Seriously, this guy needs to know he is not the problem. He just needs to know that this is not an isolated incident and read the stories of others subjected to this kind of harassment. But right now, it doesn't seem that he has that kind of support. I was hoping that the FBI would have information for him to help himself. Hell, if I could get through to him, I could give him information to help himself.

[bullwinkle428]

20. One of those "Infowars" assholes passed me on the highway today. How do I know?

The huge "Infowars.com" sticker in his back window was the tip-off!

[freshwest]

21. So you know what he's up to, then. Most of them just tear everyone else down.

Because they're the only ones with the truth, ya know!

[JDPriestly]

23. Exercising First Amendment rights never hurt anyone.

It's when you go beyond speech, assembly, religion and petition into violence that people get hurt.

So don't condemn people who exercise their First Amendment rights. That is the essence of democracy, the necessary prerequisite for democracy.

Martin Luther King exercised his First Amendment rights, and thanks to that fact, our nation is on the road to offering equal opportunity that he could not have dreamed of.

The brownshirts are the ones who want no First or Second Amendment rights.

As a nation, we do have the right to defend ourselves against invasion and crime.

[Laurian]

3. This makes me despair. I can accept that there

might be one or two nuts who voice this opinion, but that there are more than that is alarming. What world do they live in? How miserable they must be.

[Canoe52]

4. These "truthers, birthers, gun nuts, republicants"

Have lost their humanity and any feelings for the world at large.

If they didn't have such a negative impact on the rest of us I would pity them.

What a sick bunch.

[ellenrr]

74. Unfortunately, it's not just republicans..

There are a lot of people on a Greens list I'm on - who are very progressive in all areas - who buy this clap. They post about the Aurora shooter and a connection to LIBOR, that Adam Lanza was a victim of UltraK (CIA made him into a killing machine). Any airline that goes down with a more-or-less famous person on board is not an accident. It's weird.

[Rhiannon12866]

5. Please edit to post actual article title, per LBN rules. Thanks!

This man helped save six children, is now getting harassed for it

[cer7711]

7. Thanks, Rhiannon12866!

Salon.com was using two article names: one on the main page, the other on the article proper. I have edited the thread to reproduce the second, longer title name as the header.

[Rhiannon12866]

14. Thank you so much!

Much appreciated...

[duhneece]

6. Some government agency should track these nuts

They need to be on a list of those who cannot, should not have guns of any kind. They are so seriously mentally ill as to be a threat to society.

[Hugabear]

8. This is what NRA gun-nuts have lowered themselves to.

They're more concerned about their goddamned assault weapons than they are the lives of children.

[Blue_Tires]

15. +1

[Spitfire of ATJ]

9. This is typical....

The Right Wing is TERRIFIED of people having ANY feelings.

It's like when they claimed Michael J. Fox was faking his tremors. Their tactic is to say, "It's all a trick" whenever there is an emotional event. Then you are supposed to get mad over the idea that you actually had an emotional reaction. You are supposed to be a cold, dead in the center, unfeeling asshole if you wish to remain in their exclusive club.

Further, you are to think the other side uses tactics you yourself would come up with and remember always that YOU are the victim of oppression.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

84. If you're sick, they say you are faking it "to get attention".

I was married once to a sociopath like that. He said I was faking it and bribing my doctor to put me in the hospital!! All just to hassle him, since the world revolves around him!!And I was embarrassing him at work, using his health insurance that he was paying for and I was entitled to as his wife!!



being sick is a moral failure to them. They said that Hillary was faking her concussion so as not to testify about Benghazi.

SCUM. Utter scum.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

85. "being sick is a moral failure to them."

Actually, it's a sign of weakness.

Until they get sick.

Then the whole world should pamper them.

[judesedit]

10. Some asshole at FAU started it.He is a member of the NRA and they're afraid they're gonna lose $$$$$

so they are trying to get people to blame the government...NOT the shooter who shot his mother with her own GUN! Can you believe these criminals get away with this bullshit. I hope they all have to go to court and the judge makes fucking fools out of all of them. If they would have acted like normal people about the whole thing, the rest of us wouldn't be so outraged. I hope the local, state, and federal government takes as many guns as possible from this club of PARANOID LUNATICS! I don't want to be anywhere near them with or without guns.

[SunSeeker]

11. Sick assholes.

[obama2terms]

13. What bunch of asshats

[Rhiannon12866]

16. This is just unconscionable!

These traumatized children couldn't have found a better safe haven. This kind man is another hero...

[hrmjustin]

68. Shame on you! And you were PPR'ed right away thank you MIRT.

[siligut]

69. He is actually quite convincing

But that may be because it isn't an act.

[ButterflyBlood]

18. Reminds me of the people who sent death threats to the woman who took the Flight 93 photo

Conspiracy theorists aren't harmless nutjobs unfortunately.

[Archae]

25. I know, I got a death threat about 15 or so years ago.

You see, I had the *GALL* to on a message network, say that John F Kennedy was shot by Oswald.

Since the message board had us using our real names, I got a death threat in my snailmail.
Pretty much a "Oswald the commie got shot and so will you" message.

I turned it over to the Sheboygan cops, and that was that, haven't had anything since.

Once in a great while I'll get stuff in my snailmail from Jesus freaks, since at the Sheboygan Press I had the *GALL* to question their blind belief.

Usually it's pre-printed "You're going to hell!" bullshit.

[AAO]

22. I have no problem if they'd round them all up into a DEMA camp!

[IDemo]

24. Paging Anonymous

These suckers need their personal info outed.

[sasha031]

26. that is the best idea I've heard so far

how & who do we contact, bet they would love to pick up this cause.

[DinahMoeHum]

27. Yeah, there are more rocks that must be overturned. . .

. . .to expose the maggots underneath.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

28. Sadly...

There is a HUGE RW conspiracy theory that the Gov't planned the whole thing to take guns away. I have a buddy (former drummer in my band) who is CONVINCED that this is true. He's young (20 or 21), and seems to be easily persuaded, but the band he's in now is full of tinfoil hat wearing, Alex Jones watching fuckwits. And he can't be argued with. I told him that there's a conspiracy, alright. The conspiracy is pulled off by people like Alex Jones to bring us a completely misinformed populace that believes in the most absurd of explanations for the most clear-cut events.

[secondvariety]

30. Really, dude?

That's Emilie Parker's little sister with the President. Douche.

[yardwork]

33. OMG. This is disgusting. Have you no shame?

[Rex]

35. Can you believe this shit?

Sad.

[yardwork]

38. No. This is one of the worst things I've ever read on DU.

And I remember reading a vile post directed at a beloved DUer right after he died. This post is actually worse.

[Rex]

46. I agree this is the worst thing I've seen posted

just beyond that pale.

[Glimmer of Hope]

40. It this didn't pertain to little children I would find it amusing. This digusts me beyond belief!

[Dr Hobbitstein]

62. That would be the shit of which I speak...

It's sad, and utterly fucked up. I begin to wonder if the internet encourages mental illness...

[blm]

34. There are 2 little sisters. Ever hear of hand-me-downs? Ask ANY younger sister about hand-me-downs

But, you KNOW you're fullofshit, dontchya?

[Squinch]

32. You are vile. Crawl back under your rock.

[Rex]

42. I hope they do not enjoy their stay here.

.

[yardwork]

45. Two trolls served on the jury and voted not to hide it!

At Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:06 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

questions questions
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=369654

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

YOUR COMMENTS:

This post is "shows that the author is a wingnut" and includes "crazy talk," as does the next post by this poster. MIRT, please remove from the premises.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:08 PM, and voted 4-2 to HIDE IT.

Thank you.

[Squinch]

47. I think that's sadder than the post.

[yardwork]

49. They probably voted to leave alone with no comment. I'd like to see the results.

Mine wasn't the first alert so I didn't see the comments, but my guess is that the TROLLS who voted not to hide left no comments. They're probably being paid too.

[Squinch]

53. I only got the summary without comments, 4-2 to hide. Which means there are at least two horrors

lurking around who come from the same circle of hell this one did.

Ugh.

[yardwork]

55. The full jury results were just posted in Meta

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=369654
Author: NCthraxman
Subject = questions questions

Alerter comments: CT woo, please remove. Sandy Hook truther.



Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: Good God.. The little girl was wearing her killed sister's dress in homage. This kind of CRAP has NO PLACE on DU
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: The woo is strong with this one.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: There is a discussion about the facts and the poster has a right to express doubt no matter how crazy it may seem.

[Squinch]

59. I just saw your post of the results. I can't tell whether I am overcome by fury or sadness.

I'm sure we'll soon be hearing some spew from Juror 6.

The only good that can come from any of this is for people to see just how polluting gun worship is.

[CreekDog]

75. see this Meta thread: "user allrevvedup (31 juries served on) is a Sandy Hook Truther Troll-"

user allrevvedup (31 juries served on) is a Sandy Hook Truther Troll--please MIRT him ASAP.

Last edited Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:15 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

See this thread--several examples.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2002781


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1240205809

[Rex]

48. I am really starting to think we need more standards

for jury duty. That is shameful and vile.

[yardwork]

50. It's another example of the troll problem on juries.

The full jury results have been posted in Meta.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1240205726#post1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=369654
Author: NCthraxman
Subject = questions questions

Alerter comments: CT woo, please remove. Sandy Hook truther.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: Good God.. The little girl was wearing her killed sister's dress in homage. This kind of CRAP has NO PLACE on DU
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: The woo is strong with this one.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: There is a discussion about the facts and the poster has a right to express doubt no matter how crazy it may seem.

[Rex]

54. I agree and think something needs to be done.

This is just more proof imo. That was an obvious 6-0 hide.

[zappaman]

56. the results

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1240205726

[yardwork]

57. Thanks for posting that. Incredible and disgusting that anybody would defend this.

[Squinch]

52. The POS is PPR'd. And yet I still feel dirty.

[Rex]

58. It is because you have a soul

I need a shower now, that was vile beyond the pale.

[Auggie]

51. It's gone. PPR.

[sasha031]

36. your in the wrong message board you POS

go back to the loon Alex Jones, your to disgusting for words POS!!!!!!

my comment is meant for that shit for brains NCthraxman

[niyad]

37. welcome to DU for your (no doubt) short stay. wishing you and yours absolutely everything you

deserve.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

39. If I were a parent of a Newtown victim, I'd want to smash your stupid skull

I really wish I had an opportunity to spit in your face, just to see how you'd handle it.

[RomneyLies]

41. What a sad excuse for a human being you are

Why are trying to stir Sandy Hook Truther shit?

[yardwork]

43. You are a horrible human being. How much are you getting paid to post this here?

I don't even care if this post is hidden. I will wear that hide with pride. Before you are thrown off DU (probably not for the first or last time) I want to tell you what I think of a person who would post vile, horrible things about the six year old victims of a massacre and their families for money. I think that you are the lowest form of life there is.

Go home and rethink your life.

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. Ok, ok I'll byte with an obvious question

If it's the same kid, why would the powerful government, who staged this, would have the same kid in a high profile photo, that will literally go every where...with POTUS?

I mean, makes zero sense to blow cover this way...

(Logic and how these things work are not the strong point of ct folks)

[sasha031]

60. media who are interviewing him are getting harassed too

Karen Lee WFSB ?@KarenLeeWFSB
We will not plug the blogs/videos of these conspiracy theorists. Gaffers tape to make sure the web address is blocked. pic.twitter.com/99EYQ73Q

Mr Rosen is speaking to police, not sure how much good it will do, this is a job for Anonymous.

[siligut]

61. Yahoo article says he is going to contact the FBI

“The quantity of the material is overwhelming,” Rosen said, adding that he's sought the advice of a retired state police officer and plans to alert the FBI.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-155033813.html

This is gang stalking and falls under domestic terrorism, it is under the jurisdiction of the FBI.

[mountain grammy]

63. I swear I'm at the end of my rope; the rhetoric is heartless

I see pictures of assault weapons posted on facebook with the usual NRA, "nobody's gonna get my guns" stupid mentality and wonder how anyone close to this tragedy feels about those pictures and posts and the pro gun fervor of the right wing.
I know this is wrong and a disgusting idea, but maybe we need to see actual photos of what these assault weapons do to a 6 year old child's body.
Most of the people screaming about their "2nd Amendment rights" are too mentally ill to possess any weapons of any kind. And, really, if you think that's over the top, fuck off!

[cer7711]

64. I'm With Ya, Mountain Grammy!

But we mustn't forget the legions of kind, caring, decent, intellectually-acute and spiritually-astute people fighting to make the world a better place--one issue, one day--at a time. Good salt-of-the-earth people just like you!

Love your passion and outrage though. I share it.

:::hugs:::

[kentauros]

77. Great post and thoughts!

And I agree

[kentauros]

76. My educated guess is that some of them do know

what that kind of flesh-damage looks like and don't care, or they actively ignore such mental images in order to continue to assure themselves that it's their Right to have these weapons.

I would also guess that there's a fair number of these deranged individuals that enjoy seeing such images.

Some things do have to be shown to people before they allow their consciences to have a little time in their normally dulled hearts. It's shocking, but sometimes that's what it takes to get through to people.

[mountain grammy]

79. I'm sure your educated guess is right

just heard Hal Sparks relate how gun shows do not allow attendees to carry guns!!!! People are REQUIRED to check their guns at the door. They're intelligent enough to not trust each other.

[kentauros]

80. Or, they're intelligent enough to know that stupid people

will try to bring their guns on the premises, despite the rules. However, they're not intelligent enough to not sell to stupid people willing to break known rules in the first place!

[mountain grammy]

81. It's absolutely mind boggling!

[BadGimp]

65. that's some sick shit right there!

[Ash_F]

67. This man is a hero. With a kind soul.

I wonder if there is anything we can do to help him.

[Tx4obama]

70. Kick! n/t

[uppityperson]

71. kick, disgusting.

[jambo101]

72. Right wing gone insane..

The way the rightwing is dragging down the moral fabric of America i'd say another civil war or some breakup of the country may be in order for the future as these righties are becoming sicker by the day, i'm at the point now where i detest them,they're like a cancer on society.
Thanks for Democratic Undergound ,the rightie extremists seem to have infested most other forums..

[obamanut2012]

73. Does CT have a terroristic threats and stalking law like CA and NJ?

If so, they can get them for that.

Also, if they are using the internet to directly attack him, bingo with the Feds being able to do something.

[Sunlei]

78. All kids should evac out of the school with an emergency like this, right out a class window and to

a pre determined shelter area, area homes,businesses,fire station or safe spots.

Having a class shelter in place, with just lock the doors or get in the class closet when a shooter is active firing in the school, I don't think is the best plan. This would add no additional cost at all and it would be safest for all, to move out away from the school grounds.

The man getting harrased, charge them with a harrassment crime.

[Judi Lynn]

82. The country's deviant fringe is getting desperate

when there's an attack on a man who can prove he gave shelter to children and their busdriver who knew he might be delivering children to empty homes since the parents would be streaming to the school to find their children.

He showed real strength, and organization in taking them in, calming them, and contacting their parents. He thought of OTHERS, unlike right-wingers.

The right-wing unfolds itself daily in providing new looks at unlimited spiritual disease, a bottomless pit of treachery, and unyielding ill will toward everyone.

Their belief they can operate anonymously, without threat of retaliation allows them to behave like hyper-stimulated predatory clowns. Unhitched, unhinged, pointless, frenzied assholes.

Pity their chldren. It will take generations before the ugly idiocy wears out.

[Arkana]

83. What fucking lunatics.

How sad does your life have to be to see conspiracy and threats around every fucking corner?

Sometimes a tragedy is just a fucking tragedy. There's no hidden agenda here. Kids were killed by a lunatic with a gun.

[remember who you are]

86. I have never heard of this dude...

He could be part of the hoax, as well...