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Fri Feb 3, 2012, 12:54 PM

Fears held for Russian scientists exploring "alien" Antarctic lake, Vostok

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/business-tech/science/120203/alien-lake-vostok-russia-science-exploration-antarctica

Fears held for Russian scientists exploring "alien" Antarctic lake, Vostok

2/3/12

Russian scientists preparing to explore the "most alien lake on Earth," Lake Vostok, have reportedly not been in touch with American colleagues in over five days.

Vostok, buried over two miles or 13,000 feet beneath the great Antarctic ice sheet, is one of the world's largest lakes. However, it hasn't been exposed to air in more than 20 million years, Fox News reported.

The team from Russia's Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute (AARI) have been drilling for weeks to reach the isolated, subglacial water, part of a network of more than 200 subglacial lakes in Antarctica, according to the Washington Post.

Some of the lakes existed in warmer times, when the continent was connected to Australia.

According to the website io9.com:

Vostok is thought to harbor conditions similar to those of Jupiter's moon Europa and Saturn's moon Enceladus, and the discovery of life in the lake's inky depths would significantly strengthen the prospect of discovering life on either of these icy bodies.

However, the lake is "characterized by extremes, as geothermal heat from the Earth's interior warms the lake's bottom keeping it in a liquid state.



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Reply Fears held for Russian scientists exploring "alien" Antarctic lake, Vostok (Original post)
G_j Feb 2012 OP
Johnson20 Feb 2012 #1
G_j Feb 2012 #2
Javaman Feb 2012 #8
sharp_stick Feb 2012 #3
G_j Feb 2012 #4
leveymg Feb 2012 #5
FailureToCommunicate Feb 2012 #18
librechik Feb 2012 #34
Octafish Feb 2012 #6
eyewall Feb 2012 #7
Roland99 Feb 2012 #9
bathroommonkey76 Feb 2012 #10
MountainLaurel Feb 2012 #16
flying rabbit Feb 2012 #11
eyewall Feb 2012 #12
AnnieBW Feb 2012 #25
jpak Feb 2012 #27
Hayabusa Feb 2012 #30
Ferretherder Feb 2012 #32
Tikki Feb 2012 #13
Vehl Feb 2012 #14
Kermitt Gribble Feb 2012 #15
Hawkowl Feb 2012 #17
Selatius Feb 2012 #24
Lochloosa Feb 2012 #19
tawadi Feb 2012 #20
Canuckistanian Feb 2012 #21
thelordofhell Feb 2012 #22
dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #23
HotRodTuna Feb 2012 #26
jpak Feb 2012 #28
Baclava Feb 2012 #29
Poll_Blind Feb 2012 #31
Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #33

Response to G_j (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 01:03 PM

1. "Oh my God its full of stars." :)

 

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Response to Johnson20 (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 01:09 PM

2. good

answer...

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Response to Johnson20 (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 01:56 PM

8. Here's what I wrote on the same topic in GD...

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 01:09 PM

3. There isn't a lot of time left to get in there to them

Lake Vostok is more isolated than the actual pole and it doesn't have the capability to overwinter more than a dozen people or so.

I hope they're OK.

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Response to sharp_stick (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 01:11 PM

4. I do too

time is short indeed

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 01:17 PM

5. Or some THING else . . . Watch the skies!

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Response to leveymg (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 03:54 PM

18. Yikes...not much of a makeup job

for a vegetable.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 02:14 PM

34. lol

except, maybe....

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 01:18 PM

6. What could go wrong?

Last edited Sat Feb 4, 2012, 11:25 AM - Edit history (1)



Apart from contaminating the lake with modern day germs and such?

Touching the Oldest Water on Earth.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/quirks-quarks-blog/2012/02/touching-the-oldest-water-on-earth.html

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 01:49 PM

7. Here it comes...

oops, we seem to have unleashed a deadly 20 million year old virus for which there are no known existing antibodies. Sorry.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 02:12 PM

10. One of John Carpenter's best movies

 

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 03:25 PM

16. My first thought as well

And a prequel is even in the works/was recently released.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 02:18 PM

11. The Elder Things.

At the Mountains of Madness.

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Response to flying rabbit (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 02:34 PM

12. all of the above

and don't forget the original, The Thing From Another World. A milestone for SciFi movies and one of the most intelligent of all 50's scifi movies.


I do hope the Russian team are all okay.

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Response to flying rabbit (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 14, 2012, 12:40 AM

25. Cthulhu Fthagan!

It's a wonderful phrase!

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Response to flying rabbit (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 14, 2012, 02:57 PM

27. Tikeli Li!

Tikeli Li!

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Response to flying rabbit (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:59 PM

30. Heh, that was my first thought.

Some eldritch horror hiding.

In all seriousness, I hope that they're okay.

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Response to flying rabbit (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:31 AM

32. H. P. Lovecraft,...

...FOREVER!

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 02:36 PM

13. Hope they are alright...maybe they ran into these...

guys buried under the ice..buried..but just waiting...

These be Borg..


The Tikki

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 02:56 PM

14. I hope they are ok

it would be a tragic loss for the scientific community if something happens to them.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 03:14 PM

15. The dwarves delved too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum

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Response to Kermitt Gribble (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 03:48 PM

17. Balrog

 

That would explain the heat! Geothermal indeed.

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Response to Hawkowl (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 09:01 AM

24. A demon of the ancient world. nt

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 04:27 PM

19. Update:



Seriously, I hope they are ok.

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #19)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 04:34 PM

20. snort

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 05:30 PM

21. Lake Vostok documentary here (does a good job of explaining technical problems)

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 06:55 PM

22. All these lakes are yours......except Vostok

Attempt no drilling there

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:08 AM

23. Antarctic lake success 'uncertain'

It is not yet clear whether Russian scientists have succeeded in their quest to drill into Lake Vostok.

National media on Monday reported a breakthrough into the lake, the largest of more than 300 bodies of liquid water buried under Antarctica's ice.

But Valery Lukin, the Russian Antarctic programme director, has told Nature journal that the claim is premature.

He said data from a number of sensors monitoring the drilling had yet to be analysed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16907998

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2012, 02:13 AM

26. Were they actually going to send someone down?

 

Like in a tube? If they're using a standard drill rig, there's no way a man is going down that hole. I just assumed they were gathering samples.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:10 PM

28. Daily radio contact is SOP for Antarctic research stations - and there is usually multiple means

communication.

Very odd - and disturbing.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:24 PM

29. This is the team that should be going to Europa.



Russia's Putin gets a drink fit for dinosaurs

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin received a drink fit for dinosaurs on Friday when he was presented with a sample of ancient water from a sub-glacial Antarctic lake pierced by Russian scientists.

Russian scientists said this week they had drilled through Antarctica's frozen crust to the vast Lake Vostok, which has lain untouched for at least 14 million years hiding what scientists believe may be unknown organisms and clues to life on other planets.

"Well, did you drink the water?" Putin asked Russia's Natural Resources Minister Yuri Trutnev after being presented with a vial of water which the government said was from the Vostok borehole.

Trutnev, looking flustered, assured Putin that he had not tried a drop of the water.

"Well it would have been interesting you know: dinosaurs drank it and Trutnev, a member of the Russian government, too," Putin said with a smile.



http://news.yahoo.com/russias-putin-gets-drink-fit-dinosaurs-162837985.html

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2012, 07:01 PM

31. Either unable, unwilling or compelled not to. I hope they're ok. nt

PB

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:13 PM

33. I hope the Russian Scientists are ok.

Thanks for the thread, G_j.

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