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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Thu May 30, 2013, 10:11 PM May 2013

Ketamine cousin rapidly lifts depression without side effects

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Source: Medical Xpress

GLYX-13, a molecular cousin to ketamine, induces similar antidepressant results without the street drug side effects, reported a study funded by the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) that was published last month in Neuropsychopharmacology.

Major depression affects about 10 percent of the adult population and is the second leading cause of disability in U.S. adults, according to the World Health Organization. Despite the availability of several different classes of antidepressant drugs such as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), 30 to 40 percent of adults are unresponsive to these medications. Moreover, SSRIs typically take weeks to work, which increases the risk for suicide.

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GLYX-13 and ketamine produced rapid acting (1 hour) and long-lasting (24 hour) antidepressant-like effects in the rats. Fluoxetine, an SSRI that typically takes from 2-4 weeks to show efficacy in humans, did not produce a rapid antidepressant effect in this study. As expected, the scrambled GLYX-13 showed any antidepressant-like effects. The researchers observed none of the aforementioned side effects of ketamine in the GLYX-13-treated rats.

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The results are consistent with data from a recent Phase 2 clinical trial, in which a single administration of GLYX-13 produced statistically significant reductions in depression scores in patients who had failed treatment with current antidepressants. The reductions were evident within 24 hours and persisted for an average of 7 days. After a single dose of GLYX-13, the drug's antidepressant efficacy nearly doubled that seen with most conventional antidepressants after 4-6 weeks of dosing. GLYX-13 was well tolerated and it did not produce any of the schizophrenia-like effects associated with other NMDA receptor modulating agents.

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Read more: http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-05-ketamine-cousin-rapidly-depression-side.html

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Ketamine cousin rapidly lifts depression without side effects (Original Post) bananas May 2013 OP
I thought it was the other ketamine cousin at first. Megalo_Man May 2013 #1
One of the most remarkable descriptions of a k-hole I have ever read . . . markpkessinger May 2013 #4
The cousin you speak of Phlem May 2013 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #9
Sorry, I'm way off Phlem May 2013 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #13
From the third paragraph Jane Austin May 2013 #2
It means "MedicalXpress" needs an editor. PSPS May 2013 #3
I want some of that stuff! Pharaoh May 2013 #5
I know right? Nt abelenkpe May 2013 #7
They had me on anti depressant medication. Herlong May 2013 #8
Two words olddots May 2013 #10
I'm having great results with SAMe BlancheSplanchnik May 2013 #11
Locking, sorry, this is not breaking news, study was published last month. Rhiannon12866 May 2013 #14
 

Megalo_Man

(88 posts)
1. I thought it was the other ketamine cousin at first.
Thu May 30, 2013, 10:14 PM
May 2013

Which shall remain nameless so as not to give it unneeded attention.

But yeah, glyx is good stuff, I'd like to try it. Ketamine and "the other ketamine cousin" that I mentioned also have the same effect. One dose can relieve depression for a few weeks.

markpkessinger

(8,417 posts)
4. One of the most remarkable descriptions of a k-hole I have ever read . . .
Thu May 30, 2013, 10:55 PM
May 2013

. . . occurs in the book, Party Monster, by James St. James, about the murder of a young, gay Latino drug dealer by club kid extraordinaire Michael Alig, who was a club fixture here in New York back in the days when Peter Gatien reigned supreme as New York's nightlife impresario. St. James describes a k-hole in his author's foreword, in what is surely one of the funniest, brilliant and absolutely spot-on descriptions of a k-hole that ever has or ever will be written (not, of course, that I would know anything about such things ). You can read it in the online preview at Amazon. Click on the link below, then scroll about five or six pages in and begin reading. It is truly a read you won't regret!

Here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/Party-Monster-Fabulous-Murder-Clubland/dp/B001KBZ6G6/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1369968178&sr=1-1&keywords=Party+Monster#reader_B001KBZ6G6

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
6. The cousin you speak of
Thu May 30, 2013, 11:29 PM
May 2013

used to kill my alcoholism. I remember as a youth, taking one dose and any desire for a drink vanished completely. Only years after of depression did the desire to drink re-emerge.

Of course that's against the law now. Apparently a complete stranger know what ails me better than I and it's gonna cost. Where does it say in the fine print there is a fix guarantee, no where? Oh.....



-p

Response to Phlem (Reply #6)

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
12. Sorry, I'm way off
Fri May 31, 2013, 01:33 AM
May 2013

I was thinking Psilocybin. I' stumped. I'll dwell for a while.

-p

Response to Phlem (Reply #12)

Jane Austin

(9,199 posts)
2. From the third paragraph
Thu May 30, 2013, 10:29 PM
May 2013

What does this mean?

As expected, the scrambled GLYX-13 showed any antidepressant-like effects.

Thanks.

PSPS

(13,706 posts)
3. It means "MedicalXpress" needs an editor.
Thu May 30, 2013, 10:34 PM
May 2013
 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
5. I want some of that stuff!
Thu May 30, 2013, 10:56 PM
May 2013

Because it is definitely depressing to watch this country go down the tubes.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
7. I know right? Nt
Fri May 31, 2013, 12:36 AM
May 2013
 

Herlong

(649 posts)
8. They had me on anti depressant medication.
Fri May 31, 2013, 12:43 AM
May 2013

They had me on anti depressant medication.

Long story short, I stopped talking From 12 to 15. I took my grandmother's medication and my medication and passed out. When I awoke, dad, brother, mother where in the kitchen hanging out, not knowing I was in my room, basically near death. I was all, "What the hell."

From then on I was like, "Fuck these guys"

I have never been depressed since.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
10. Two words
Fri May 31, 2013, 12:53 AM
May 2013

buyer beware

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
11. I'm having great results with SAMe
Fri May 31, 2013, 01:08 AM
May 2013

It's a nutritional supplement you can get OTC at most stores that have various supplements. You can get it online much cheaper. Take it with vit. B's

You don't need to take it daily. I started taking one a day for a few days, then took one in the morning and one in the evening. Did that for a few days. I monitor how I feel, and if I start feeling a little bit manicky, I stop for a few days.

No side effects and it's really helped. My therapist recommended it to me. I am SO glad!

I'm liking it better than Prozac, Cymbalta, and whatever other meds for depression I've taken over the years.

Rhiannon12866

(209,360 posts)
14. Locking, sorry, this is not breaking news, study was published last month.
Fri May 31, 2013, 03:40 AM
May 2013
GLYX-13, a molecular cousin to ketamine, induces similar antidepressant results without the street drug side effects, reported a study funded by the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) that was published last month in Neuropsychopharmacology.
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