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marble falls

(57,425 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:04 PM Jun 2013

Obama: Spying programs only ‘modest’ invasion of privacy

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Source: Yahoo News


By Olivier Knox, Yahoo! News | The Ticket – 57 mins ago


President Barack Obama on Friday defiantly defended the government's newly revealed telephone and Internet spying programs on grounds that Americans must tolerate what he dismissed as "modest encroachments on privacy" in the name of security.

With evident impatience, Obama suggested at one point that he set limits on what the National Security Agency (NSA) can grab without a judge's OK because he himself might one day be the target of such snooping.

"I came in with a healthy skepticism about these programs," Obama said at an event in San Jose, CA, initially designed to trumpet Obamacare but subverted by the dramatic disclosures. "My team evaluated them. We scrubbed them thoroughly. We actually expanded some of the oversight, increased some of the safeguards."

But, the president said, "My assessment, and my team’s assessment, was that they help us prevent terrorist attacks. And the modest encorachments on privacy that are involved in getting phone numbers, or duration [of calls] without a name attached, and without looking at content, that on net it was worth us doing."

SNIP

Obama said Congress had been fully briefed on the various secret programs, and suggested that lawmakers who objected to those initiatives or to "abuses" could have done so. But lawmakers critical of such programs have repeatedly made clear that they are hamstrung by the Administration's decision to classify information -- making a full, public debate involving the American public impossible.

The president dismissed the "hype" that portrays such programs as s stepping stone towards a tyrannical "Big Brother"-like government. He also denounced the leaks that fed the news reports, saying the nation's secrets cannot be "dumped out willy-nilly" without damaging national security.

SNIP.

"With respect to my concerns about privacy issues: I will leave this office at some point -- sometime in the next three and a half years -- and after that I'll be a private citizen," he said. "And I suspect that on a list of people who might be targeted so that somebody could read their emails or listen to their phone calls, I’d probably be pretty high on that list. So it's not as though I don't have a a personal interest in making sure my privacy is protected."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-spying-programs-only-modest-invasion-privacy-170140961.html



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Obama: Spying programs only ‘modest’ invasion of privacy (Original Post) marble falls Jun 2013 OP
Modest? So, just a little bit is OK? AndyA Jun 2013 #1
The government's only putting it in a little bit villager Jun 2013 #4
Everyone knows modest penetration is no invasion indepat Jun 2013 #7
Lay back and think of America! villager Jun 2013 #11
Is the 'war on terror' still on? lupulin Jun 2013 #5
"modest" Autumn Jun 2013 #2
His privacy . . . evilhime Jun 2013 #3
Hey Fucking Scholar.... catnhatnh Jun 2013 #6
+1 DJ13 Jun 2013 #10
unbelievable...we'll just take a little of rights away, not much, you won't even miss them....... bowens43 Jun 2013 #8
Sounds like there's a scale he knows about Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #9
Never thought of that. caseymoz Jun 2013 #14
"He" set limits"? So he's not the helpless victim of congress some have tried to depict him as. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #12
Modest. Whew! Thank Dog for figleafs. caseymoz Jun 2013 #13
That's strange, I didn't see anywhere in the constitution Chisox08 Jun 2013 #15
Modest encroachments?! tavalon Jun 2013 #16
Oh, now. It was just a modest dump. Solly Mack Jun 2013 #17
Wrong. Deep13 Jun 2013 #18
Duplicate topic - locking OKNancy Jun 2013 #19

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
1. Modest? So, just a little bit is OK?
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jun 2013

Bullsh!t.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
4. The government's only putting it in a little bit
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jun 2013

n/t

indepat

(20,899 posts)
7. Everyone knows modest penetration is no invasion
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:21 PM
Jun 2013
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
11. Lay back and think of America!
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jun 2013

lupulin

(58 posts)
5. Is the 'war on terror' still on?
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:18 PM
Jun 2013

Or is this a new one?

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
2. "modest"
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jun 2013
What a load of horse shit. Kind of like a "little pregnant"

evilhime

(326 posts)
3. His privacy . . .
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:11 PM
Jun 2013

So what he is basically saying is our privacy isn't his primary concern but rather he is concerned that when he's a private citizen HE may have to worry about his privacy? Can anyone tell me what happened to the Senator we thought we elected President? Granted I don't know all that he knows but this very wide net seems like a rather large fishing expedition to me . What would we say if it was Georgie doing it?

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
6. Hey Fucking Scholar....
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:18 PM
Jun 2013

...show me that clause in the 4th amendment about "except modestly"!

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
10. +1
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:24 PM
Jun 2013

Scholar my ass.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
8. unbelievable...we'll just take a little of rights away, not much, you won't even miss them.......
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:22 PM
Jun 2013

what a pathetic response to a reprehensible action on the part of the administration.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
9. Sounds like there's a scale he knows about
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:24 PM
Jun 2013

as in: eh, this is nothing. If you knew about the OTHER stuff we're doing, whoo boy, then you'd have a right to worry!

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
14. Never thought of that.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jun 2013

And you know they're doing much worse.
 

MotherPetrie

(3,145 posts)
12. "He" set limits"? So he's not the helpless victim of congress some have tried to depict him as.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jun 2013

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
13. Modest. Whew! Thank Dog for figleafs.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:27 PM
Jun 2013

For a moment there, I thought the government could see the wrong things. As it is, government allows me a fig leaf and six-shooter.

Holster not included.

Chisox08

(1,898 posts)
15. That's strange, I didn't see anywhere in the constitution
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:31 PM
Jun 2013

that says the government can invade our privacy only if it's a modest invasion.

With that being said, Hi Agent Smith hows the family, you already know about mine.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
16. Modest encroachments?!
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:32 PM
Jun 2013

Solly Mack

(90,797 posts)
17. Oh, now. It was just a modest dump.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:34 PM
Jun 2013

I'm sure they could have leaked more.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
18. Wrong.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jun 2013

Professor Obama, did you not read this in law school?

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
19. Duplicate topic - locking
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jun 2013

Previous post on the same news conference here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014502921
you can add this blog post to the previous news article

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