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Galraedia

(5,027 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:51 PM Jun 2013

Ron Johnson: ‘Restoring faith in government’ is the ‘wrong solution’

Source: Raw Story

Tea party-backed Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) on Thursday told a conservative conference in Washington, D.C. that “restoring faith in government” was the “wrong solution” and that lawmakers should instead be encouraging “distrust.”

Speaking to the Faith and Freedom Coalition’s Road to Majority conference, Johnson said that too many Americans had forgotten the “foundational premise of this nation,” that the Founding Fathers understood government was “something to fear.”

“Americans are willingly trading their freedom and ours for the false sense, for the false promise of economic security,” he opined.

Johnson asserted that congressional approval ratings of 9 percent were “too high.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/13/ron-johnson-restoring-faith-in-government-is-the-wrong-solution/

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Ron Johnson: ‘Restoring faith in government’ is the ‘wrong solution’ (Original Post) Galraedia Jun 2013 OP
The way I see it, is Congress is trading our freedoms for a false sense of security..the people shraby Jun 2013 #1
Or... ReRe Jun 2013 #7
And that is the very definition of incivility. nm cheapdate Jun 2013 #2
Well by that measure he's doing a great fucking job! Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #3
He and I finally agree on something LTR Jun 2013 #4
LTR indianjoe3295 Jun 2013 #29
At least shit has enough character to stink n/t DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #49
Let me get this straight... tarheelsunc Jun 2013 #5
Yep, just like Saint Ronnie and his followers. Lasher Jun 2013 #8
That has been the goal of the right wing for decades liberal N proud Jun 2013 #32
He's Part of the Problem, Not the Solution! mckara Jun 2013 #6
Ron Johnson "Don't trust me.....I suck." thelordofhell Jun 2013 #9
Not to worry pscot Jun 2013 #10
And Wisconsin Voters Turned Out Russ Feingold For This Clown? n/t DallasNE Jun 2013 #11
Sorry. It was a plot Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #14
Wisconsin voted for Scot Walker twice! RVN VET Jun 2013 #47
Geez, there's just no hiding of or cure for stupid. marble falls Jun 2013 #12
The Reaganite self-fulfilling prophecy DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #13
This pretty much nails it. Harry Monroe Jun 2013 #46
After watching him in action. Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #15
I will say this Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #16
So he doesn't want honest or good government The Second Stone Jun 2013 #17
Thanks to a-holes like him, Congress' approval rating is at 10%. Beacool Jun 2013 #18
Once per century I might agree with Johnson. This is it. n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #19
For the Irony impaired... booley Jun 2013 #20
I don't think I will ever recover from my state's ushering in of this clown. AllyCat Jun 2013 #21
I had timdog44 Jun 2013 #30
Are you kidding me? LTR Jun 2013 #36
K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #22
That's a great video. CanSocDem Jun 2013 #33
Sure, the Founding Fathers understood Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #23
Speaking on behalf of all the progressives in Wisconsin, we're sorry. Scuba Jun 2013 #24
Sorry is not going to cut it! BootinUp Jun 2013 #28
Well, I have to admit that timdog44 Jun 2013 #31
I'm guilty too - voted for Rod B. back when I lived in McHenry County. Scuba Jun 2013 #38
Guilty as charged. timdog44 Jun 2013 #43
Michigan's not in wonderful shape, either DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #48
And timdog44 Jun 2013 #50
She got a bad rap she didn't deserve DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #53
Sounds UnAmerican to me 4dsc Jun 2013 #25
80-20 is coming and all these extremists will be rendered politically obsolete at the voting booth graham4anything Jun 2013 #26
Lets elect (more) terrorists! BootinUp Jun 2013 #27
So, then he's gonna step down, right? Since Gubmint's the problem? Myrina Jun 2013 #34
How republican of you Ron! Rebellious Republican Jun 2013 #35
senator stupid joins the feeding frenzy. WHERE'S THE BLOOD? WHERE? pansypoo53219 Jun 2013 #37
The Big Promise of communism Turbineguy Jun 2013 #39
How the fuck did Feingold lose to this stuffed shirt? Arkana Jun 2013 #40
Ahh, Ron .... ladym55 Jun 2013 #41
This mook beat Feingold? KamaAina Jun 2013 #42
Another pile of The Wizard Jun 2013 #44
Wrong. We aren't meant to FEAR government, but to not TRUST it. magellan Jun 2013 #45
Nobody has done more than Sunspot Johnson in the last couple of years Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #51
'Founding Fathers understood government was “something to fear.” ' wordpix Jun 2013 #52

shraby

(21,946 posts)
1. The way I see it, is Congress is trading our freedoms for a false sense of security..the people
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:56 PM
Jun 2013

don't make the laws, Congress dreams them up, votes on them, passes them and calls it good. Nevermind what the people actually want.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
7. Or...
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 11:21 PM
Jun 2013

...whether the laws they pass are even legal. Look at the laws they pass.... John Q. Public doens't know about all those riders on the tail ends of those bills. By the time the bill goes for a vote, it doesn't even resemble the Title anymore! Hells bells, I bet you 75-85% of Congressmen don't know what is in those bills. I think my Junior High could write a better bill than comes out of that place nowadays!

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
3. Well by that measure he's doing a great fucking job!
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:59 PM
Jun 2013

Johnson asserted that congressional approval ratings of 9 percent were “too high.”

indianjoe3295

(6 posts)
29. LTR
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:23 AM
Jun 2013

That is an insult to shit. Shit has a "place",...a function in the world scheme of things. Ron Johnson does not.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
5. Let me get this straight...
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:59 PM
Jun 2013

am I reading this wrong, or did this guy pretty just admit his job is to ruin the reputation of his job?

liberal N proud

(60,344 posts)
32. That has been the goal of the right wing for decades
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:45 AM
Jun 2013

Nixon tried but failed miserably.
Raygun put in place many policies that have brought us to where we are today.
Clinton tried turn it around.
Dubby just laid the process back on track for the right wing and the Teabaggers are their soldiers.

The GOP Congress is working hard to make sure Obama does not right this ship before they can install another teabagger to finish the job of government destruction.

RVN VET

(492 posts)
47. Wisconsin voted for Scot Walker twice!
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:51 PM
Jun 2013

I grieve, I really grieve for the intelligent people of Wisconsin. But it's pretty apparent that the marching morons have outbred them and been suckered in by what Louisiana's governor has called "the Party of Stupid."

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
13. The Reaganite self-fulfilling prophecy
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:27 AM
Jun 2013

1. Government is the problem.
2. Elect people who believe government is the problem (but have no problem with their government benefits).
3. Have them throw a spanner in the workings of government.
4. Go to your electorate and say "see, I was right...government doesn't work."
5. Repeat.

Harry Monroe

(2,935 posts)
46. This pretty much nails it.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:52 PM
Jun 2013

"The Democrats are the party of government activism, the party that says government can make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed out of your lawn. Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work, and then get elected and prove it."
P.J. O'Rourke

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
15. After watching him in action.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:31 AM
Jun 2013

I would be less embarrassed if one of my Senators was filmed having sex with, but not satisfying, a goat.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
16. I will say this
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:35 AM
Jun 2013

In our race with wyoming, to be the state on the bottom, We are confidant in our republican leadership to the fuse; I mean the way.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
17. So he doesn't want honest or good government
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:35 AM
Jun 2013

which is what it would take to restore trust in government.

booley

(3,855 posts)
20. For the Irony impaired...
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:08 AM
Jun 2013

"government was “something to fear.” ....

.... Says guy who's part of the government.

Maybe it's me but it seems we have a lot of these guys in government saying government is evil and when they say it, it seems less a warning and more of a promise.

AllyCat

(16,220 posts)
21. I don't think I will ever recover from my state's ushering in of this clown.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:47 AM
Jun 2013

I have "progressive friends" who voted for him because they thought we needed change. And he was the neighbor from down the street.

I hate the Tea Party. With a passion I hate them. They have made it so there is not one reasonable part of the GOP, and it was pretty bad to begin with.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
30. I had
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:28 AM
Jun 2013

with my family that I grew up with, and with my wife of over 30 years, vacationed in Wisconsin almost exclusively every year. I had been going to Door County for 45 years. Spent a lot of money there, supported all the businesses there. Then when the big political change happened in Wisconsin (I cried) I wrote to everyone we had supported there and told them I am never coming back until Wisconsin came to there senses. And the people I supported may well have voted (D), but if they all don't suffer, then things don't get done. And my wife and I really miss going there. We made a lot of friends and we miss them too.

I hate the right wing extremists and the tea party party especially. They have taken this country to the garbage dump.

LTR

(13,227 posts)
36. Are you kidding me?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:57 AM
Jun 2013

On what planet would a real progressive NOT vote for Feingold, perhaps one of the most honest, straight-up people to ever serve in the Senate (and a true progressive to boot) and instead vote for that empty suit corporate shill Johnson?

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
33. That's a great video.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:04 AM
Jun 2013


Back to the basics with another old hippie visionary. It's not complicated, folks.

.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
23. Sure, the Founding Fathers understood
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:54 AM
Jun 2013

that government was “something to fear.” That's why they almost immediately added 10 amendments to the new Constitution to help give the citizenry greater peace of mind about NOT having to fear their government

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
31. Well, I have to admit that
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:30 AM
Jun 2013

I am in Illinois. Lots of our ex governors are making license plates for my vehicles. And I think we are almost the most bankrupt state in the country. And the Ds rule our goernment.

You don't really have to apologize. I do feel bad for you though.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
48. Michigan's not in wonderful shape, either
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 09:47 AM
Jun 2013

And it's because for whatever reason by the end of her second term people here reviled Jennifer Granholm.

So what did they do? Elected Rick Snyder, who said he was not going to ally himself with the GOP far right...and promptly did so. I guess they forgot/didn't notice what two terms of John Engler did to this state.

We now are a "right-to-work" state. Walter Reuther is spinning in his grave.

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
25. Sounds UnAmerican to me
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 07:40 AM
Jun 2013

Something wrong in the world today and I know what it is. Its republicans.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
35. How republican of you Ron!
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:21 AM
Jun 2013

I have adopted the saying of "how republican of you" in my best slow southern gentleman drawl when some one does something extremely rude or says something very arrogant. You'd be surprised at how many surprised looks like how did he know I was a republican. All while their mouth gapes open with a very surprised expression.

on edit: see my sig line, I can still recognize a "Freak".



Turbineguy

(37,365 posts)
39. The Big Promise of communism
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:41 AM
Jun 2013

was that government would become obsolete. It never happened. He wants government to be mistrusted as long as there are "other people" in it.

And especially if "one of Those People" is President.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
41. Ahh, Ron ....
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:55 PM
Jun 2013

Hating on government while happily collecting a government paycheck and enjoying wonderful GOVERNMENT-FUNDED health care and being eligible for a GOVERNMENT-FUNDED pension ...

Everytime good "Amurikans" vote one of these clowns into office I want to cry.

magellan

(13,257 posts)
45. Wrong. We aren't meant to FEAR government, but to not TRUST it.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jun 2013

Big difference. When you fear something you tend to take irrational views of it and seek to nullify it any way possible. Which just happens to describe every teabagger and their estimation of government.

When you don't trust something you keep an eye on it, i.e. remain vigilant and informed.

But I wouldn't expect these irreducible morans to understand the difference.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
51. Nobody has done more than Sunspot Johnson in the last couple of years
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:36 AM
Jun 2013

to help instill distrust of our government.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
52. 'Founding Fathers understood government was “something to fear.” '
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:40 AM
Jun 2013

How ignorant and he's twisting the truth, since the FF understood the Brit. KING's gov. was something to fear so set up a new system of American gov. that is of, by and for the people, with separation of powers so that even idiots like Ron Johnson could be voted in.

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