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OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:34 PM Jun 2013

AFL-CIO wants to be the voice of most workers, not just those in unions

Source: Cleveland Plain-Dealer

The AFL-CIO, the nation's largest labor organization, is seeking to be the voice of all working and middle class people -- even if they don't belong to unions.

"I don't think this is a big leap to think that a union should have a broader definition," said Harriet Applegate, who heads the North Shore AFL-CIO Federation of Labor, whose letterhead includes: "We're the people who brought you the weekend."

She said a "good job" is the universal desire for nearly all working and middle class people, regardless of whether they belong to organized labor. Most of what has come to define a good job, mainly decent wages, working conditions -- even days off, like a weekend -- are often the result of battles won by unions, Applegate said.

As many of these gains have been lost or compromised, she said, unions have been in the forefront of raising awareness about wage stagnation and income inequality.


Read more: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2013/06/afl-cio_wants_to_be_the_voice.html

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AFL-CIO wants to be the voice of most workers, not just those in unions (Original Post) OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 OP
Unions are great formercia Jun 2013 #1
Certainly better than no unions at all Kingofalldems Jun 2013 #3
true but the more the better leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #4
Nothing in the article said anything about limiting the number of unions. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #13
Sometimes. Igel Jun 2013 #8
Again, read the article. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #14
The AFL-CIO is a Federation - not one union bread_and_roses Jun 2013 #5
They can't be in charge when they don't receive dues from non-members. LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #10
No said anything about being "in charge." OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #15
No one said "one union in charge" OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #12
NEEDED NOW: A national low wage workers union that transcends all kinds of employment Coyotl Jun 2013 #2
A great idea! durbin Jun 2013 #6
Did you submit your input? OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #19
I've talked to leadership about this. Coyotl Jun 2013 #20
Good! OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #21
So tell them at the link! OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #16
Direct link to give your input: OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #18
They are having an open discussion page for input. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #7
Thanks for the link! Weighing in there now! n/t durbin Jun 2013 #9
Seems like they are saying something that has been for many years. LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #11
That's exactly the point! OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #17
I wouldnt mind if the AFL-CIO became a cabinet level position in the whitehouse. cstanleytech Jun 2013 #22
Super interesting idea! OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #23
Pretty much and it hopefully would give us a more direct path to explain our economic problems cstanleytech Jun 2013 #24
You should submit this idea to the AFL-CIO OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #25
I wish them luck CatholicEdHead Jun 2013 #26
Yes, if office workers don't get unionized, OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #27

formercia

(18,479 posts)
1. Unions are great
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jun 2013

..but one union in charge? Like the Teamsters back in the 50's and 60's? I don't think so. Lots of voices are better. Keeps people honest.

Put one Union in charge and they will be making sweetheart Deals with Corporate America before you can shake your Dick dry.

Igel

(35,356 posts)
8. Sometimes.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:39 PM
Jun 2013

But it's representation without a means of connecting the representation to the represented. It's a case of, "Of course they want what we want" without actually bothering to get agreement.

It even asserts authority to speak on behalf of those who, for whatever reason, voted not to have a union, and says, "We pity you and will defend your true interests even if you don't recognize us."

Nope. Don't agree. It's a bear to get the approval of the represented but it's sort of a requirement.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
14. Again, read the article.
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jun 2013

The whole point is the AFL-CIO is seeking input from non-represented workers on what it should be doing to better represent the interests of working people. That IS "connecting the representation to the represented."

But no, let's not celebrate this as one more place working people can have a voice. Let's denigrate and insult the AFL-CIO for trying to do something and make a difference. You're right. That's the best way to get the 99% to have a voice in US law and policy: let's tear down those who are trying to speak up.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
15. No said anything about being "in charge."
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 04:32 PM
Jun 2013

Do any of you people even read the article posted here?

Is the AAUW "in charge" of all women with BAs?
Is the AARP "in charge" of all old people?

Get over yourself. Trying to do a better job of representing the interests of the working class is not a crime, nor something to be denigrated. Unless of course you'd rather only have the monied classes have effective lobbying in Washington.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
12. No one said "one union in charge"
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jun 2013

Where did you read that? More accurately, where did you read that into what wasn't there? First of all, the AFL-CIO is a federation of 57 unions, not a union.

The point is that -- if you would read the article -- the AFL-CIO is asking ALL workers, not just its members what it can do better or differently on behalf of workers to better represent their needs and interests. I don't see any other organization in the US trying to advocate on behalf of working people, so instead of tearing down the AFL-CIO's efforts, why don't you start your own organization?

And your comment about sweetheart deals is disgusting. Corporate America is trying to destroy every last union in America. Have you not been paying attention? Name one "sweetheart" deal with AFL-CIO has with "Corporate America." Name one. Without evidence your insults are merely ad hominem prejudices with no basis in fact.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
2. NEEDED NOW: A national low wage workers union that transcends all kinds of employment
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:35 PM
Jun 2013

AFL-CIO could do this!

 

durbin

(73 posts)
6. A great idea!
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:08 PM
Jun 2013

The AFL-CIO is more often in the right position than the elected Democratic politicians in the Democratic Party. (Do I need examples here, maybe from the Chicago Mayor's office?).

LiberalFighter

(51,082 posts)
11. Seems like they are saying something that has been for many years.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jun 2013

Consider all of the benefits that non-union workers enjoy because of unions? It has always been my opinion that when my labor union lobbies for something at the state or federal level it helps more than just the members of my union. There is some legislation that is focused more on union rights, etc. But for the most part it benefits most working people.

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
22. I wouldnt mind if the AFL-CIO became a cabinet level position in the whitehouse.
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 11:59 PM
Jun 2013

Not a nominated position by the president, congress or the senate either but rather someone we the people vote for and they serve one term of 8 years with the election taking place only during the mid terms not during the presidential elections.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
23. Super interesting idea!
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 03:37 PM
Jun 2013

It would be, in essence, the 99% position? So at least one person in government would speak for us?

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
24. Pretty much and it hopefully would give us a more direct path to explain our economic problems
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 04:34 PM
Jun 2013

rather than the current route which gets lost from all the static created by the sheer number of lobbyists for other issues in washington.

CatholicEdHead

(9,740 posts)
26. I wish them luck
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jun 2013

They have lost the AFL side trying to keep the CIO side over the last few decades. The AFL had a strong core to white collar workers back in the day. The CIO was strong to workers with few skills before they merged. Most unions today represent the CIO blue collar side and their outreach towards the AFL professional side has failed outside government unions. We need both sides to have a effect, the status quo is not working.

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