Obama: I’m not Dick Cheney
Source: Politico
President Barack Obama used a television interview set to air Monday night to defend his administration’s use of far-reaching surveillance programs as carefully supervised and controlled.
Obama also appeared to reject comparisons between himself and Vice President Dick Cheney, who strongly backed similar surveillance efforts in the George W. Bush administration and has defended Obama’s continuation of national security-related programs similar in many respects to those pursued by the previous administration.
“Some people say, ‘Well, you know, Obama was this raving liberal before. Now he’s, you know, Dick Cheney.’ Dick Cheney sometimes says, “Yeah, you know? He took it all lock, stock, and barrel,” the president told interviewer Charlie Rose in the exchange recorded Sunday. “My concern has always been not that we shouldn’t do intelligence gathering to prevent terrorism, but rather are we setting up a system of checks and balances?”
In an interview that’s been heavily promoted by the White House and Obama aides, the president acknowledged that a program which collects massive amounts of data on telephone calls made in or through the U.S. could theoretically be used to invade individuals’ privacy, even potentially yielding conclusions about callers’ health conditions. . .
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/obama-im-not-dick-cheney-92925.html
Say what you will about President Obama, he's not the Prince of Darkness himself.
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otherwise I'm SURE he's typing with one hand 
But at least he's saying it. This should be a good interview. Thanks for the heads up!
Obama: "I’m not Dick Cheney"
Is there no one on this man's staff who will tell him not to make statements like that? Are they all too busy lining up post-administration tell-alls to distance themselves from the train wreck?
I have never been more puzzled by an administration which used off-the-record trial balloons so heavily, yet that can be so disastrously off-message during interviews.
PB
...me my fill.
And then some.
PB
...someone different from you and me, that's what.
The Democratic party is the way it is, not through accident, but by careful machination. They're not trapped, this is where they've positioned themselves, intentionally. What we view as self-destructive behaviors are opportunistic exploitation for personal gain.
It benefits them to be seen as victims or the hapless. The sheepskin they struggle to keep over them as they meander through the rest of the flock.
Your Orwellian conversion, BTW...I'm bookmarking that.
PB
You don't have to suppose intentionality to explain the problem that continues to plague the party, along with most other institutions in America today:
Here's a short working definition in Wiki:
Self-selection bias is a major problem in research in sociology, psychology, economics and many other social sciences.[1] In such fields, a poll suffering from such bias is termed a self-selecting opinion poll or "SLOP".[2] The term is also used in criminology to describe the process by which specific predispositions may lead an offender to choose a criminal career and lifestyle.
While the effects of self-selection bias are closely related to those of selection bias, the problem arises for rather different reasons; thus there may be a purposeful intent on the part of respondents leading to self-selection bias whereas other types of selection bias may arise more inadvertently, possibly as the result of mistakes by those designing any given study.
In Democratic politics, this is what it looks like:
But, this is the relationship of influence that it really goes back to:
K & R
Nixon: "I'm not a crook."
Full quote: "People have got to know whether or not their president's a crook. Well, I'm not a crook."
““Some people say, ‘Well, you know, Obama was this raving liberal before. ... My concern has always been not that we shouldn’t do intelligence gathering ... "
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