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vdogg

(1,384 posts)
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:27 AM Jun 2013

Brian Sims, Pennsylvania Lawmaker, Silenced On DOMA By Colleagues Citing 'God's Law'

Source: Huffington Post

An openly gay lawmaker was silenced by colleagues on the Pennsylvania House floor Thursday when he attempted to speak about the Supreme Court's decision to strike down the Defense of Marriage Act.

State Rep. Brian Sims (D-Philadelphia) took to the House floor on Thursday to discuss the high court's landmark ruling, which found the federal law barring the government from recognizing same-sex marriages legalized by states to be unconstitutional. However, as WHYY News and Philly.com report, Sims' remarks were blocked by several state lawmakers using a procedural maneuver.

One of those lawmakers, conservative state Rep. Daryl Metcalfe (R-Butler), told WHYY that he believed Sims' comments would be a violation of "God's law."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/27/brian-sims-doma_n_3513741.html



Someone talk me off the ledge here. Isn't this illegal and a violation of both free speech and the separation of church and state? I could have sworn that federal law, and thus the constitution, supersedes state law and any state constitution should the two come into conflict.
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PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
1. Unfortunately this is the state of Pennsylvania politics right now
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:34 AM
Jun 2013

and those of us here in PA are looking forward to changing this is 2014.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
2. We know gay people exist. We aren't sure if God exists. Let's focus on the things we're sure about.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:41 AM
Jun 2013

Great comment from the huff post link.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
3. These people do not belong in politics or in any position of authority if they are
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:45 AM
Jun 2013

going to invoke their god stuff as a rule of law ... take it to the church, but not to a political platform. It is sheer nonsense.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
4. PA Constitution, Article 1, Section 7
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:08 AM
Jun 2013

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"The free communication of thoughts and opinions is one of the invaluable rights of man, and every citizen may freely speak, write and print on any subject, being responsible for the abuse of that liberty." Guess PA's state constitution doesn't apply to members of the legislature.

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
5. Another instance where the 1st amendment only applies to republicans.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:49 AM
Jun 2013

And if they don't like what you are saying, or, as in the case of mindreader 'Metcalfe The Great', thinks you are going to say, they will try to shut you up in any way they can. Whether it is illegal or immoral.

I just hope that if they continue on the path that they have chosen, that more and more light will be shed on how vile and hypocritical they are and they are voted out.

The CCC

(463 posts)
8. Brian Sims, Pennsylvania Lawmaker, Silenced On DOMA By Colleagues Citing 'God's Law'
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:01 AM
Jun 2013

Republicans are fascist idiot, but this is not a First Amendment issue.

Response to vdogg (Original post)

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
15. What Has God's Law to Do with Pennsylvania?
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jun 2013

This is the United States. In this country the ultimate repository of authority for the law is WE THE PEOPLE, not God.

Wolf

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