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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:45 PM Jul 2013

Tepco now admits radioactive water entering the sea at Fukushima No. 1

Source: AFP-JIJI

Fisheries exec shocked by utility's flip-flop on groundwater's flow

Fukushima nuclear plant operator Tepco on Monday admitted for the first time that radioactive groundwater is flowing into the sea, fueling fears that marine life is being poisoned.

The admission came a day after voters handed the largely pro-nuclear Liberal Democratic Party of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe — and ally New Komeito — a handsome majority in the Upper House.

<snip>

Tetsu Nozaki, chairman of Fukushima Prefectural Federation of Fisheries Co-operative Associations, voiced deep concern.

“It was quite shocking,” he told NHK. “(Tepco’s) explanation is totally different from the one in the past.”

<snip>

Read more: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/07/22/national/tepco-now-admits-radioactive-water-entering-the-sea-at-fukushima-no-1/#.Ue2TCY3VArU



TEPCO has been lying about this to help the pro-nuclear right-wing LDP win the election.
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Tepco now admits radioactive water entering the sea at Fukushima No. 1 (Original Post) bananas Jul 2013 OP
They've been admitting this for awhile now 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #1
No, last month they finally admitted that groundwater was being contaminated bananas Jul 2013 #10
Head regulator believes contamination of the sea has been continuous since the accident bananas Jul 2013 #2
Radioactive water has been seeping into the sea for a while now. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #3
By no means "a small incident". It is way beyond. nt Mnemosyne Jul 2013 #9
How concerned does the science say we should be though? cstanleytech Jul 2013 #4
Depends on who's paying which scientist's salary, maybe. freshwest Jul 2013 #31
Japan's Fukushima operator acknowledges contaminated water flowing into sea bananas Jul 2013 #5
The fisheries chairman is just covering his ass. He knew damn well radioactive water snagglepuss Jul 2013 #6
An article from May: Fukushima fishermen’s distrust leads to rejection of TEPCO groundwater plan bananas Jul 2013 #13
Kicking for later horror arcane1 Jul 2013 #7
here you go... corkhead Jul 2013 #12
Hey, he's mega cool! Don't knock Godzilla! freshwest Jul 2013 #29
LOL freshwest Jul 2013 #30
Yeah, but it's invisible, so no need to worry. closeupready Jul 2013 #8
Is there anything TEPCO hasn't lied about? Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #11
Actually no. matthews Jul 2013 #22
So the claim by GE tthat the core of their Mark I reactor has never been breached jtuck004 Jul 2013 #14
My understanding is the spent fuel storage tanks melted down. reusrename Jul 2013 #21
oooohhhhh!!!!!! heaven05 Jul 2013 #15
“It was quite shocking,” ---Oh, PLEASE. These evil men are STILL trying to play us for fools. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #16
Doh! Chef Eric Jul 2013 #17
NO NUKES grahamhgreen Jul 2013 #18
Everyvbody, RELAX!!! bvar22 Jul 2013 #19
Just think of the upside. Pretty soon we won't need night lights. We'll matthews Jul 2013 #23
no nukes! Tom Hastings Jul 2013 #20
The timing of the announcement reeks to high heaven. Heywood J Jul 2013 #24
k&r ElsewheresDaughter Jul 2013 #25
Appears to have been a 5.2 earthquake centered at Fukishima today PuraVidaDreamin Jul 2013 #26
We can capture a million emails a day but we can't determine... KansDem Jul 2013 #27
Please consider making this a OP. It's an absolutely brilliant point. snagglepuss Jul 2013 #28
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
1. They've been admitting this for awhile now
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jul 2013

I thought I saw something on this in the news like 4-5 weeks ago?

But it is an abhorrent situation with these continual leaks, for sure.
I live on the West Coast, so am particularly concerned about what
this is doing to what's left of our sea life.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
10. No, last month they finally admitted that groundwater was being contaminated
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014500991

Wed Jun 5, 2013

In Reversal, Tepco Says Water at Fukushima Is Contaminated

Source: New York Times

In an embarrassing reversal from its earlier claims, the operator of Japan’s stricken Fukushima nuclear plant said that radioactive particles have been detected in groundwater flowing into the plant, an admission that could raise renewed questions about the company’s ability to handle the plant’s cleanup.

<snip>

bananas

(27,509 posts)
2. Head regulator believes contamination of the sea has been continuous since the accident
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jul 2013
http://rt.com/news/tepco-admits-leak-fukushima-433/

TEPCO admits Fukushima-1 reactors leak radioactive water to Pacific Ocean
July 22, 2013 16:33

The operator of Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, TEPCO, has admitted for the first time since March 2011 that crippled reactors continue to leak highly contaminated radioactive waters into the Pacific Ocean.

TEPCO had previously denied suspicions that contaminated water had reached the sea, despite the fact that levels of potentially cancer-causing radioactive substances present in ground and seawater samples at the plant had soared.

<snip>

The announcement has confirmed alarming concerns addressed by Japan's nuclear watchdog, the Nuclear Regulation Authoirty (NRA). Earlier in July, the organization stated that it “strongly suspected” contamination of ground waters and possibly the Pacific Ocean.

The head of NRA also said he believed that contamination of the sea has been continuous since the accident in March 2011, when a massive earthquake and tsunami triggered three meltdowns in the Fukushima plant.

<snip>

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
3. Radioactive water has been seeping into the sea for a while now.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:52 PM
Jul 2013

Have you seen the pics of deformed Frankenstein veggies growing now in the area?

And this was just a small incident, wait until someting like Chernobyl happens again.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
31. Depends on who's paying which scientist's salary, maybe.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:27 PM
Jul 2013

Objective research has been bred out of some enterprises, they have an orthodoxy that must be maintained to stay employed. Some scientists that have not been corrupted or intimidated by the pressure brought to bear to keep to a mainstream narrative.

Many work for these industries and the world's universities teach all these disciplines. It's part of the modern world that brought us really cool and really awful stuff.

They have a lot of their lives invested in this and aren't going to walk away from it. So their creativity and knowledge needs to be focused on another field less deadly, eventually.

As far as 'science' deciding what is and isn't dangerous about the permanent state of affairs issuing forth from this reactor's debris, I have doubts they will speak with one credible voice.

They are humans playing with dangerous stuff and specialized. We can't get a single opinion.

This is Chernobyl level and will be in the biosphere for many years. It will keep on coming, like a volcano will keep on going as a force of nature.

Being man-made or natural doesn't ease the problem. We can't fix everything with science, any more than we can bring back extinct species.

This was not handled right at the crucial moment, it appears. It should have entombed with concrete like Chernobyl. but it as not and we have to work around it from now on out. Or not.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
5. Japan's Fukushima operator acknowledges contaminated water flowing into sea
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:53 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/22/japan-nuclear-fukushima-idUSL4N0FS2DC20130722

Japan's Fukushima operator acknowledges contaminated water flowing into sea

TOKYO, July 22 | Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:50am EDT

(Reuters) - The operator of Japan's stricken Fukushima nuclear power plant said on Monday that contaminated ground water had likely been flowing into the sea, acknowledging such a leakage for the first time.

Tokyo Electric Power Co., or Tepco, made the announcement a day after Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's pro-nuclear Liberal Democratic Party and its junior coalition partner scored a decisive victory in elections to the upper house, cementing his grip on power.

The head of Japan's new Nuclear Regulation Authority, created since the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami wrecked Fukushima, said this month he believed contamination of the sea had been continuing since the accident.

But Tepco had previously failed to confirm the ground water leakage more than two years after the worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl in 1986.

<snip>

(Reporting by Kiyoshi Takenaka; Editing by Ron Popeski)

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
6. The fisheries chairman is just covering his ass. He knew damn well radioactive water
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:54 PM
Jul 2013

was entering the ocean but simply went along with the assigned lines.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
13. An article from May: Fukushima fishermen’s distrust leads to rejection of TEPCO groundwater plan
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:36 PM
Jul 2013
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201305140090

Fukushima fishermen’s distrust leads to rejection of TEPCO groundwater plan

May 14, 2013
THE ASAHI SHIMBUN

Tokyo Electric Power Co. officials underestimated Fukushima fishermen’s anger and distrust toward the company whose failures continue to threaten their livelihoods.

After meeting fisheries leaders several times since last summer, utility officials believed they had won approval from a prefectural fisheries federation for a plan to reduce the amount of contaminated water at the stricken Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant.

However, the fishermen themselves lashed out against TEPCO at a meeting in Iwaki, Fukushima Prefecture, on May 13.

<snip>

Tetsu Nozaki, who heads the federation, acknowledged after the meeting that a consensus was reached at the federation’s top level, but not among individual members.

<snip>

Although surprised at the outcome of the meeting, TEPCO officials acknowledged that past talks with federation officials alone have proved insufficient to win the backing of local fishermen.

<snip>

Federation officials are trying to reduce distrust of TEPCO by holding briefings where the utility and the central government can explain the water-release plan to individual fishermen. The presence of government officials is expected to emphasize that TEPCO’s plan is safe and in line with the central government’s policy.

<snip>


Federation officials have been catapulting the propaganda for the nuclear industry.

Fortunately their members didn't fall for it.

Cronus Protagonist

(15,574 posts)
11. Is there anything TEPCO hasn't lied about?
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:25 PM
Jul 2013

As I watched the meltdowns happen, the containment buildings explode and such like, TEPCO was still claiming there was no meltdown. They claimed their plants were safe before the disaster too. They claimed a lot of things that were absolutely propaganda. And they omitted other salient information too. Lying by omission.

TEPCO should be routed - all senior management should be in jail for crimes against humanity. The people of Japan need to know the truth. And so do we. In ten years, the entire west coast of North America will be contaminated at dangerous levels. Japan is already contaminated beyond repair.

 

matthews

(497 posts)
22. Actually no.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jul 2013

Kyodo: Tepco ‘reverses’ position — Admits Fukushima plant’s groundwater is contaminated with radioactive cesium — Wanted to dump it into Pacific Ocean June 3, 2013
http://enenews.com/kyodo-tepco-reverses-position-admits-fukushima-plants-groundwater-is-contaminated-with-radioactive-cesium-wanted-to-dump-it-into-pacific-ocean

Report: Tepco now dumping contaminated water from Fukushima plant into ocean — 200 tons of radioactive groundwater “pumped out” May 9, 2013
http://enenews.com/report-tepco-begins-dumping-contaminated-water-into-ocean-200-tons-of-radioactive-groundwater-pumped-out

TV: Groundwater shows massive spike in radioactive material at Fukushima plant — Strontium-90 up over 10,000% in past few months — Tepco apologizes (VIDEO) June 19, 2013
http://enenews.com/tv-groundwater-shows-massive-spike-in-radioactivity-levels-at-fukushima-plant-strontium-up-10000-over-past-few-months-video

Groundwater closest to ocean is most radioactive at Fukushima plant — Official: Highly likely it’s leaked into Pacific — Levels “soared” in sea over last few months July 1, 2013
http://enenews.com/groundwater-closest-to-ocean-is-most-contaminated-at-fukushima-plant-official-highly-likely-its-leaked-into-pacific-levels-have-soared-in-sea-over-last-few-months

If you want to see more in regard to the lies TEPCO has told about it's problems with its 17 nuclear sites, and if you really want worry, read this.


Japan’s TEPCO: a history of nuclear disaster cover-ups
By Mike Head
17 March 2011

>snip<
Among the company’s record of more than 200 proven falsifications of safety inspection reports are several relating to the stricken Fukushima Daiichi facility itself. In 2002, TEPCO admitted to falsifying reports about cracks that had been detected in core shrouds at reactors number 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, as far back as 1993.

(And for crying out loud, don't have a hissy about the source. Sometimes this damn site is the only one that won't yank your chain, especially when it comes to things like economics and the criminal actions of the MIC.)


 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
14. So the claim by GE tthat the core of their Mark I reactor has never been breached
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:42 PM
Jul 2013

is, uh, history?

Because, from my understanding of the design docs that are around, that would have to be the case if cesium-134 is in the water...

Or am I wrong. Again
 

reusrename

(1,716 posts)
21. My understanding is the spent fuel storage tanks melted down.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:34 PM
Jul 2013

There have been mixed stories about the reactor cores but I think you're more than likely correct.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
15. oooohhhhh!!!!!!
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:13 PM - Edit history (2)

BIG NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bullshit. The contaminated water has been flowing into the ocean for sometime now. The 'authorities'and MSM is just slowly parsing out the information so as to not frighten the little children of the world, that will become ill by being directly affected by this fubar situation. It's NOT going to be fixed anytime soon and they are no where near a solution to stop this ongoing, from the very first, leak. Heaven forbid another earthquake of magnitude comes as the coup de grace to this disaster. Fucking idiots!!!!!!!

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
16. “It was quite shocking,” ---Oh, PLEASE. These evil men are STILL trying to play us for fools.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:48 PM
Jul 2013

“(Tepco’s) explanation is totally different from the one in the past.”

NS, SHERLOCK.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
19. Everyvbody, RELAX!!!
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jul 2013

[font size=3]They're just venting a little steam.
These new Nuclear Power Plants are PERFECTLY SAFE,
because they have "Redundant Back Up Systems".

Did I mention that I KNOW "Science",
and you are just running around like stupid little Henny Pennies!!!

These plants are SO SAFE, that we can now build them on known Fault Lines and Tsunami Zones without the slightest worry!!!.
Trust Me,
because I KNOW "Science",
and YOU DON'T!!!

Did I mention that I KNOW Science,
and that these plants are perfectly safe?"
And if you are worried at ALL,
that makes YOU a Dumb ASS?[/font]

 

matthews

(497 posts)
23. Just think of the upside. Pretty soon we won't need night lights. We'll
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:14 PM
Jul 2013

each give off enough illumination for find our way around a 200 ft. below ground cave without any artificial light source whatsoever.

 

Tom Hastings

(13 posts)
20. no nukes!
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:35 PM
Jul 2013

Japan is totally fukt. You cannot really blame public relations or engineers, since the real blame is the government policy decision to rely on nuclear power in the first place. And the USA has more nuclear plants than any other nation.

Nuke plants take decades to build, are a huge investment that barely pays for itself, and a huge gamble for obvious reasons: So after spending billions for decades, instead of returning energy Clean Safe Too Cheap to Meter, you get a disaster spewing deadly toxic waste for centuries.

You knew the risks, but you built it anyway. Don't blame the Japanese. It could just as easily happen in France, Brazil, Germany, and the biggest user of nukes on Earth, the USA.

Once radiation starts spewing, there is only so much you can do to respond. Now everyone in Tokyo has radioactive tapwater. Oh but don't worry it aint at lethal levels. Yeah right. If it was lethal, would the government admit it? Hell no. What would the solution be? Have all the Japanese move out of Japan? Where? Nanking?

There are no good solutions. And what irony, that people so reliant on the fishing industry now have a radioactive fishery.

Ask not for whom the bell tolls: it tolls for thee. This definitely will happen somewhere in the USA. Just a matter of time. Nuke plants NEVER should have been built in the first place.


Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
24. The timing of the announcement reeks to high heaven.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:57 PM
Jul 2013

Even if there wasn't an intent to influence the election, they certainly created the appearance of it.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
27. We can capture a million emails a day but we can't determine...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:00 AM
Jul 2013

...if a nuclear reactor is leaking radioactive water into the world's oceans?

Or maybe we did but we went along with TEPCO's explanation at the request of US nuclear power companies? Or banks and Wall Street that finance nuclear power?

Where was the NSA in all of this? Couldn't it monitor communications in and out of Fukushima so we'd all know the truth?

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