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alp227

(32,047 posts)
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 01:04 AM Jul 2013

Second woman makes Filner accusation

Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

A San Diego political consultant said San Diego Mayor Bob Filner patted her rear end and made crude comments about her at a fundraiser eight years ago while she was working for his congressional campaign.

Laura Fink, who was deputy campaign manager for then-Rep. Filner, told KPBS in an interview broadcast Tuesday that she was escorting him to a table at the 2005 event when he told her to turn around and “proceeded to take his hand and pat me on my posterior.”

The incident in San Diego was witnessed by several people, she told the station, and shortly thereafter came to the attention of one of Filner’s top aides, then-Chief of Staff Tony Buckles.

Buckles was recently named to that same position in the Filner administration after sexual harassment claims first surfaced earlier this month.

Read more: http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/jul/23/second-woman-comes-forward-with-filner-accusation/all/





Monday: Sex harassment suit filed against Filner

He's toast. In 1995, US Senator Bob Packwood (R-OR) resigned under threat of expulsion over sexual harassment accusations.
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Second woman makes Filner accusation (Original Post) alp227 Jul 2013 OP
Wow, when the floodgates open, there is no holding it back. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #1
Yup maddezmom Jul 2013 #11
So, did he do anything illegal? David__77 Jul 2013 #2
Allegedly. joshcryer Jul 2013 #3
What's the line? David__77 Jul 2013 #4
Absolutely. joshcryer Jul 2013 #5
Better to prevent even the appearance of impropriety. David__77 Jul 2013 #6
Hope not, too. I think you'll be OK. joshcryer Jul 2013 #8
may be nothing. do like with Rs *accused* of extreme 'harassment' Sunlei Jul 2013 #7
Ah. Igel Jul 2013 #10
When did this coordinated attack against Filner begin? Was it before or after he criticized a Repub AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #9

David__77

(23,468 posts)
2. So, did he do anything illegal?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 02:27 AM
Jul 2013

If he isn't prosecuted, then how should the Democratic Party judge him? Is he guilty? Does it matter? Do we simply discard those who are accused, regardless?

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
3. Allegedly.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 03:39 AM
Jul 2013

He hasn't been tried or convicted.

But patting a lady on the butt unsolicited is illegal...

David__77

(23,468 posts)
4. What's the line?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 03:46 AM
Jul 2013

I know I've been sexually harassed, but I'm male (gay), and I think it's treated as though it should be ignored. Don't get me wrong, I think abuse of power for sexual ends (even "mere amusement&quot is immoral and unacceptable from a leader of any entity. I just get skittish about these ten year later things that come out of the woodwork.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
5. Absolutely.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 03:48 AM
Jul 2013

She's obviously cashing in, at the time she may have actually been OK with it (though that's nearly impossible to know). There were plenty of witnesses apparently, though, so she lawyered up and now she's going to cash out.

And I can't or won't blame her or judge her, you don't do that.

(If it turns out of course that there was a relationship going on there or something, and the pat was deemed OK at the time, that's for the courts to show.)

David__77

(23,468 posts)
6. Better to prevent even the appearance of impropriety.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 03:54 AM
Jul 2013

Another reason not to have work romances. My office is heatedly paired or grouped off - hope it doesn't lead to something bad happening.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
8. Hope not, too. I think you'll be OK.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 06:09 AM
Jul 2013

In this case Filner admitted to misbehaving in the past, and it was only after three long time supporters finally became tired of his behavior. From what I've read of his behavior it was systematic and over a long period of time but was just ignored because he was a dirty old man, I think.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. may be nothing. do like with Rs *accused* of extreme 'harassment'
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:19 AM
Jul 2013

ignore it. The R becomes Presidential material, member of Congress or can lie through reviews to the Supreme court in the USA.

Igel

(35,337 posts)
10. Ah.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:04 AM
Jul 2013

So that's what we're supposed to do with accusations of impropriety.

Got it. It's not about principles--what you do when you have power--it's just about getting power and using it for selfish ends. We're all (R) now.

Hint: Those who believe they can't afford morality until they have all the power they want find two things. First, they seldom have all the power they want. Second, they have trouble locating anything that can properly be called a "principle."

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
9. When did this coordinated attack against Filner begin? Was it before or after he criticized a Repub
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:10 AM
Jul 2013

judge who was doing his best to convict a chalk-using protestor who had written anti-Bank of America comments on the sidewalks, with chalk, in front of three B of A branches?

The protestor's activities were, at most, misdemeanors. Yet the judge prohibited him and his attorney from speaking to the public, and prohibited them from arguing a First Amendment defense to the jury.

For writing on the sidewalk with chalk, and saying things which the Bank of America did not want said, the prosecutor and the judge wanted to impose a penalty of up to 13 years. Notwithstanding the unprecedent gag order and the prohibition against referring to the First Amendment, the jury acquited the protestor.
http://www.clarionledger.com/viewart/20130701/NEWS03/130701040/San-Diego-man-facing-13-years-prison-chalk-protest-found-not-guilty

Now they are going after Filner.

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