Weiner Should Drop Out, NYC Likely Dem Voters Tell Quinnipiac University Pol

[brooklynite]

Source: Quinnipiac College

Congressman Anthony Weiner drops to fourth place among likely Democratic primary voters in the race for New York City mayor as these likely voters say 53 - 40 percent he should drop out, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

There is almost no gender gap, but a wide racial gap on this question: Women say 54 - 42 percent that Weiner should drop out, compared to men at 52 - 37 percent. But black voters say 53 - 42 percent that Weiner should stay in the race, while white voters say 64 - 25 percent he should get out.

Weiner gets 16 percent of likely Democratic primary voters today, compared to his first- place position with 26 percent in a July 24 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe- ack) University.

City Council Speaker Christine Quinn leads the Democratic pack with 27 percent, with 21 percent for Public Advocate Bill de Blasio, 20 percent for former Comptroller William Thompson, 6 percent for Comptroller John Liu and 2 percent for former Council member Sal Albanese, the poll finds. Seven percent of likely Democratic primary voters remain undecided.

Read more: http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/new-york-city/release-detail?ReleaseID=1929

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

1. may his numbers drop even more.

There's no better punishment for the little egomaniac than to be reduced to a punchline.

[DinahMoeHum]

2. What do you think of Bill de Blasio?

I saw a story about him here. . .
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/26/forget_weiner_theres_a_real_progressive_for_nyc_mayor/

[hrmjustin]

4. I like him but I am not sure he can beat Quinn in the runoff. I think Thompson can.

For me I will vote for whoever can beat Quinn in the runoff. But I no longer support Weiner.

[BeyondGeography]

3. The sooner the better

For him especially.

[Tx4obama]

5. He has a right to run if he wishes to. I don't care one way or the other.

He did not have 'real' sex with anyone that he talked to on his computer.

As long as Vitter and Sanford (two people that had REAL sex) remain in office then I think it's fair for anyone else to run if they want to.

I still can't believe that folks actually voted for Vitter and Sanford.

[BlueStater]

6. Geez.

Just don't fucking vote for him in the primary. WHY does he have to drop out for?

[think]

7. Weiner should have real affairs like a true politician

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/30/politicians-and-their-all_n_209275.html

Phone sex is for losers who want to be trolled by the NSA....

[B Stieg]

10. Really. I wonder if Snowden has an NSA file on "Carlos Danger"?

Of course, we've all seen the texts, so there shouldn't be too much sensitive material

[randysoames]

8. corporate media & BigPharma are punishing weiner for his 2009 fight for single payer

and there are plenty of so called progressives who are willing to help the corporate media stab weiner in the back.

From wikepedia:
During the health care reform debates of 2009, Weiner advocated for a bill called the United States National Health Care Act, which would have expanded Medicare to all Americans, regardless of age.[20][21] He remarked that while 4% of Medicare funds go to overhead,[22] private insurers put 30% of their customer's money into profits and overhead instead of into health care.[23] In late July 2009, Weiner secured a full House floor vote for single payer health care in exchange for not amending America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 (AAHCA) in Committee mark-up with a single-payer plan.[24] When a public health insurance option was being considered as part of America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, he said it would help towards reducing costs, and set up a website to push for the option.[23] He attracted wide attention when described the Republican Party as "a wholly owned subsidiary of the insurance industry, teaming up with a small group of Democrats to try to protect that industry",[25] and proclaimed in front of Congress in February 2010 that "every single Republican I have ever met in my entire life is a wholly owned subsidiary of the insurance industry."[26]
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Weiner fought for us to get single payer in 2009 like NO OTHER CONGRESSPERSON DID. And now big pharma and the insurance industry is trying to kill his career.

Will you stand up for anthony like he stood up for you in 2009?

[Tarheel_Dem]

9. What a load. Weiner lied. He finally had to admit that the behavior continued after he resigned.

That's not "big pharma" or "corporate media". That's all Weiner.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

11. Oh, sure, they held him down, made him watch porn to get erect, took photos...

...e-mailed them to strangers, made him lie about it, and then made him do it agin.

He's such a victim in all of this.

Isn't funny how other proponents of health care reform, ones with actual legislative accomplishments (unlike Weiner), don't seem to have this problem?

Anyone still defending Carlos at this point is about as deluded as those Freepers who still think Palin is an election away from a landslide White house win.

And let's not kid ourselves - Weiner is not a progressive. He launched his career on race-baiting and attacking black politicians. He's a neo-Con on Israel-Palestine and makes the bizarre claim that the West Bank is "not occupied," his ego destroyed any attempt at immigration reform, and he joined Ari Fleischer and Mike Huckabee in piling on Helen Thomas and trying to destroy her career.

There's a reason none of the House Dems came to his defense - they saw him for what he was: a faux liberal who knew how to get on TV to advance his career, but who had zero interest in getting anything done.

He's the Dems' version of Michele Bachmann.

And let's not forget Weiner's biggest accomplishment - by fucking up with his scandal, he gave that prick Breitbart a much-needed win to recover from the Shirley Sherrod fiasco.

Carlos lied to progressives like Maddow and Kos and wanted them to go on defense for him. He had no problem having them risk their reputations so he could take more dick pics.

He's a POS and his downfall is well-deserved.

[ancianita]

13. They sure as hell are. Big deal. Dick pics. Get the hell over your embarrassments, people!

Stand the fuck up for Weiner!

[Trajan]

29. You seem quite proud of his dick ...

Why don't you silk screen some tee shirts with some dick pics and parade up and down Broadway to show your support ...

You would be part of the Dick Brigade! ... SO proud you would be! ....

I understand there are openings In Macy's window ...

[ancianita]

31. You seem preoccupied with his dick and overlook that I'm QUITE PROUD OF HIS VOTING RECORD!

I'M A FUCKING GROWNUP, NOT A SNICKERING KID IN A PLAYGROUND OF POLITICAL MEDIA BULLIES.

[Trajan]

36. Frankly,I don't give one holy FUCK about his dick ...

I am quite open. sexually, and I don't really care WTF he does with it ...

His judgement on the other hand, is extremely important to me ... he is not fit to represent Democrats ...

He will have his supporters, who show a similar lack of judgement ....

And there is your parade .... jump in . ...

[ancianita]

37. Bullshit.That's a corporate FOX and MSNBC talking point.Judgment has not a damned thing to do with

The People's political achievers. Here's your parade of who to throw out of candidacies:

John Fucking Kennedy, OR BOTH his long-revered brothers, Wilbur Mills, Grover Cleveland, Eliot Spitzer, Barney Frank, Chuck Robb, Gavin Newsome, Fred Richmond, Bill Clinton -- hell, let's throw Thomas Jefferson in there.

I'm sure I've left some out. But one thing is for sure -- almost every Republican who's been scandalized is still out there, running your shame narrative into the ground.

How's THAt for a history of followers' judgment. And you're IN that party -- got it?

[Trajan]

38. LOL ... I haven't watched ANY cable news in years

Not a single second was wasted watching that sheep fodder ...

no ... I carry my own values and judgements with me ...

That's how I can do easily dismiss your ridiculous rants as today's hot air ... your candle is burning low ...

[ancianita]

39. And your whole ad hominem style shows why talking points become 'my own' values. No one is an island

and you've clearly absorbed the media talking points you claim are your own. That's what most Republicans do, too, actually. Claim they never watch cable and just -- poof! tabula rasa-style! -- arrive at their own values!

You haven't one shred of evidence to back up your cowardly stance against Weiner. You'd rather attack me, instead. You're the one stooping to tactics beneath this party's history.

[brooklynite]

14. And what exactly was his "fight"?

Did he round up other House members to support Single Payer? Pressure leadership to support it? Or did he simply make an entertaining speech on C-SPAN?

[ancianita]

19. Seriously? You really can dismiss his future because he wasn't the whip? Do you know who the

party whip was at the time? The guy who couldn't whip cream? Guess.

[Crunchy Frog]

16. Did they take control over his brain and dick?

Is he some sort of zombie under their control?

I won't stand up for the weiner. It's standing up on its own just fine.

[ancianita]

12. Tear up THIS voting record and then tell me how right you Weiner haters are.

http://www.ontheissues.org/NY/Anthony_Weiner.htm


I'm ashamed at the way Democrats have refused to fight for his record like the Republicans do for their sexopaths.

[brooklynite]

15. By that measure, Yvette Clark could be Mayor of New York.

She's a reliable vote on any progressive issue. She's also a Party hack who's never expressed an original thought about policy issues and will likely be in office for 20 years.

[ancianita]

17. A Party Hack? How unusual for Democrats! How could we live with it?!

Me, I'll take one dick-waving progressive "party hack" over ten goddammed sniveling blue dogs any day.

[brooklynite]

24. What "Blue Dog" do you see as running for Mayor of New York?

[ancianita]

25. THis kind of group attack is exactly how you eventually get blue dogs over hacks. Who said there

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are blue dogs in this race. Weiner's opponents are hacks-in-training, if you want to know what I think. Hell, Schumer is a party hack.

If you actually live in New York, please, disabuse me that they're hacks by showing THEIR records.

There WILL be blue dogs in NY or any state if Repubs watch a successful beat down of Democrats' own over -- shock of shocks! -- dick pics talked up in the media!

[brooklynite]

26. YOU said you would vote for Weiner over a Blue Dog...

If there's someone running for Mayor you think is one, let us know; if not, then the fact that you'd prefer him to a Blue Dog in Congress is irrelevent.

[ancianita]

33. I preferred him to BE THERE to fight ten blue dogs when he was there. As mayor he can

develop the progressive mindset of his state -- it's unsteady -- and more importantly, the country.

If you know more than I about his opponents, I welcome your schooling. I say, and I've shown, that his record of governance is better than theirs. Can you prove me wrong?

You've got no case against him except "aaahhhh the diiiick!" And that's supposed to throw his years of good voting and governance away. Pfffft

[Sunlei]

18. He should not quit, no one likes a quitter. He may not make mayor but he should continue to try.

If he loses the primary, then he should help the best D win the position.

[ancianita]

20. HE'S the goddammed best D. No one's BETTER because oppo research hasn't turned up anything.

[Sunlei]

22. I know he's the best in the political world, with a very good political record.

He should not quit. In fact he should take more interviews, as many as he can. If anything it will take the some of the R$$ heat off a more electable D or he may even overcome the media pogrom.

Make the R funded media campaigns keep on having to pay, pay, pay, pay to demonize him.

[DCBob]

21. Yeah, totally agree. The guy is a joke and with him in the spotlight it hurts all Democrats.

Time to find another career Mr Weiner.

[ancianita]

23. Stop being easily bullied children of REPUBLICAN media and get on with GROWNUP CAMPAIGNING!!

Stop buying into the idea that good candidates with good records have to have flawless private behavior. Or we'd never have had John Fucking Kennedy, and you know it. His

Weiner's behavior does NOT reflect on Democrats. It just doesn't.

[DCBob]

27. Of course Weiner's behavior reflects on Democrats if we take him as a serious candiate.

He's a laughing stock and borderline pervert. There are better candidates to support without the baggage. Time to move on.

[ancianita]

30. NO ONE in this country has some self-appointed right to throw away a good public record based on two

private events that the aren't the public's business to care about anyway. Dick pics are perverted?? Seriously??

He can sell progressive issues to big donors.

Four whole candidates from the third most populated state in the country does not at all prove that the Democratic bench is deep for women's issues. Dick pics or not, he's an ally of women's rights and votes accordingly. He's no bribe/vote ratio voter.

"He's a laughing stock and borderline pervert. There are better candidates to support without the baggage. Time to move on."

You and others on DU have allowed THAT line to be amplified by Republican owned media. PORN is a private staple of male leaders and a political staple of media. -- dick pics -- and you will throw away a staunch ally of women's reproductive rights.

[DCBob]

34. Give it up dear. You are wasting you time. He's toast.

[ancianita]

35. Don't "dear" me. You silent DU'er cowards don't want to have to WORK for good candidates.

Anyone who brushes off a good voting record used to defend Weiner by with some sexist toss off doesn't deserve good Democrats in office.

You can't even fight. You just fold to media porn. You're laughable. I'm not giving up on Anthony Weiner.

[DCBob]

40. Good rule of thumb: When a political candidate is the most frequent subject on late night comedy...

its time to give it up.

[ancianita]

41. Oh for cryin' out loud. Glib contempt is all you got?

[DCBob]

44. Not trying to being glib or comtemptuos.. Im totaly serious.

[cali]

46. right, honey. only YOU are thinking. anyone who doesn't agree with you

is a child and easily bullied. well, bully away, but you're still parroting nonsense.

Weiner fucked up his own chances. Of course, long before the sexting scandal, the lying, the expenditure of campaign funds to hire a PI to investigate who hacked into his unhacked account, his rinse and repeat redemption, etc, I thought the guy was a self-promoting phony. Yeah, his voting record is good. So are dozens of his ex-colleagues. But it takes way more than that to be a leader. He accomplished vanishingly little in the House.

He made a spectacle of himself. And what happens when you do that in politics? Issues get flooded away.

He can't survive this and the little twerp hasn't dealt with it effectively. He's nothing now but a pathetic joke.

[ancianita]

47. Who here am I parroting? The NY'ers in the Q poll? Before all your 'befores,'

I thought the guy had the guts to support the women he worked with in the House by speaking up for women's issues in a male-dominated governmental body.

If you're implying that any videos or CSPAN are insufficient media to witness his leadership in action, you must be implying that that's the only time he appears on camera. How would you know that. Are you one of those invited to sit in the House and watch proceedings he's participated in?

His voting record is better than good. It offsets his two-time fuckup. We'll see how New Yorkers vote. So far enough of them aren't buying into the media hype that you think he's brought on himself. Forgive and forget in the name of moving forward is what we do. There's nothing about his sins that reflects on his political work.

He deserves every label he gets, but he should not be tossed out of the political arena. That's my case.

[cali]

48. oh please, the Weiner can't hold a candle to anyone in my delegation

or the dozens and dozens of real progressives in my home state senate and house.

Clearly his stupid behavior, strings of pathetic lies and lame excuses, don't offset his voting record. He'll lose spectacularly. New Yorkers are rejecting him and they'll continue to reject the mendacious stupid slimeball. Polls already reflect that and I'll wager that his slide continues.

There's so much that reflects on his "political work" that your claim made me laugh out loud. It's an amusing delusion. His campaign is "political work" and it's a train wreck of gobsmacking proportions. His behavior directly effected his ability to operate in the political sphere. The media fuss is a direct result of that behavior.

[oberliner]

49. Which of the other candidates for mayor are real progressives?

If you lived in NYC, for whom would you vote?

[cali]

50. Bill de Blasio looks pretty good to me.

Of course the last time I said that I got called a racist. The dumbing down of DU is appalling.

[oberliner]

51. You got called a racist for that?

Wow - that is pretty nuts.

In any case, he seems to be doing quite well in the polls now that Anthony's numbers have tanked.

Still, I'd be surprised if Quinn doesn't win.

[no_hypocrisy]

28. That's not democratic.

Let the electorate vote for any candidate but Weiner, but don't force him to drop out.

The only people who risk injury by an alliance with Weiner are his financial donors. Otherwise, no harm to the public letting him continue to campaign.

[ancianita]

32. THANK YOU. THIS should at least be the Democratic Party way.

[MadrasT]

43. +1

[NYC Liberal]

42. I completely agree. The guy is a joke at this point and thankfully his chances of actually getting

the nomination if he does stay in are getting slimmer.

[WestSeattle2]

45. Society is trying to stop 'tweens and teenagers from

sexting, and we have this clown showing off his junk drawer on Twitter? Seriously? How can he even consider running for ANY public office, let alone mayor of one of our largest cities?

This is narcissism on steroids. What a creep.