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marble falls

(57,422 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:13 PM Aug 2013

Teacher Accused Of Calling Students ‘N’ Word On First Day Of School

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Source: CBS Houston

DONALDSONVILLE, La. (CBS Houston) — A teacher is accused of calling students the “N” word during class on the first day of school.

CBS affiliate WAFB-TV reports that Lois Polite, a social studies teacher at Lowery Middle School in Donaldsonville, La., is under investigation by the Ascension Parish School System after a parent of a student filed a complaint.

“My son came home very upset,” Shemika Landry told WAFB-TV. “She frequently called the kids the ‘N’ word in the classroom, belittling them, calling them stupid.”

Landry claims that the teacher threatened the students if they complained.

“She told them they can call their ‘maw’ and sent them to the school with their booty shorts on and their high heels but it wasn’t going to change anything because she was the only social studies teacher there and they needed her,” Landry told WAFB.

The school system, who is allowing Polite to continue to teach during the investigation, offered an apology.

“[W]e can’t say a whole lot about the allegations other than we received a complaint and we did an investigation internally and we are handling it as a personnel issue,” Johnnie Balfantz, spokesman for the Ascension Parish School System, told WAFB.

Landry believes Polite should be fired.

“She should be terminated,” Landry said. “If I would go on my job and use that type of language I would be immediately terminated.”

Balfantz says that Polite is currently the only social studies teacher at the school but that substitutes are being lined up in case the teacher is suspended or fired.

Read more: http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/08/12/teacher-accused-of-calling-students-n-word-on-first-day-of-school/



Hey, racism is dead, right? She was just teaching them 'bout them good ol' days.
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Teacher Accused Of Calling Students ‘N’ Word On First Day Of School (Original Post) marble falls Aug 2013 OP
What a bloody idiot DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #1
Don't you think there's a fair chance the kid might be lying? oberliner Aug 2013 #19
Just pisses me off JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #2
"stick to the book and stfu" oberliner Aug 2013 #21
Dan Bates JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #32
How did you do on your ACT/SAT? oberliner Aug 2013 #42
Before we lynch the teacher Berlum Aug 2013 #3
No one is going JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #4
She is not white oberliner Aug 2013 #16
My opinion doesn't change JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #33
That seems strange oberliner Aug 2013 #40
If you want "(you) black folks" to get the benefit of the doubt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #20
Nope JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #35
She was honored as a Teacher of the Year just a few months ago oberliner Aug 2013 #38
The accusations were strong enough for the shool to investigate..... marble falls Aug 2013 #5
*scratches head* That makes no sense. cstanleytech Aug 2013 #10
Investigation is already over oberliner Aug 2013 #17
Well this is the DU and of course we shouldnt lynch first and ask questions "later" cstanleytech Aug 2013 #6
Lets make a little bet on this. I'll go $20 to the charity of your choice on this: this story stands marble falls Aug 2013 #9
I didnt say it wouldnt but I am also not omniscient like some here appear to believe they are. nt cstanleytech Aug 2013 #12
Did you assume the teacher was white when you first read the story? oberliner Aug 2013 #41
Thank you for your reasonable comment oberliner Aug 2013 #22
Geez. reflection Aug 2013 #7
School board has investigated - she is not being fired oberliner Aug 2013 #23
Let me guess ..... jb5150 Aug 2013 #8
What an asshole teacher! Spirochete Aug 2013 #11
That is a pretty brazen accusation oberliner Aug 2013 #24
Well, there's not much gray area there Spirochete Aug 2013 #28
I disagree on all counts oberliner Aug 2013 #29
You're not? Spirochete Aug 2013 #36
Not really oberliner Aug 2013 #39
Whaat! gussmith Aug 2013 #13
She is an award-winning African-American teacher oberliner Aug 2013 #25
What's really scary is some of the comments after the story. kag Aug 2013 #14
The investigation is done and she is not being fired oberliner Aug 2013 #27
The teacher is African-American oberliner Aug 2013 #15
Oooh, another shiny toy from the DU Anecdotal Rage Factory! nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #18
Some folks jumped the gun on this one oberliner Aug 2013 #31
I teach in a 100% African American school and some kids call each other the n-word wordpix Aug 2013 #26
Have you ever encountered kids making stuff up about their teachers? oberliner Aug 2013 #30
Why are they even debating this? Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #34
She should be suspended pending the outcome of an honest investigation jimlup Aug 2013 #37
What a truly foolish teacher jasond54231 Aug 2013 #43
Locking story beyond LBN time limits azurnoir Aug 2013 #44

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
1. What a bloody idiot
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:18 PM
Aug 2013

Most IMPolite of you, Ms Polite.

Where did she get her teaching degree, anyway?

She should definitely be canned...but in Louisiana, I'll be surprised if she is.

Ms Landry has every right to be pissed off.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. Don't you think there's a fair chance the kid might be lying?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:51 PM
Aug 2013

Middle school kids have been known to do that from time to time.

Also, the teacher is African-American for what that is worth.

JustAnotherGen

(31,999 posts)
2. Just pisses me off
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:23 PM
Aug 2013

Because even though I live far away from there - my tax dollars go to educate children in Louisiana. I'm not paying this woman to say much of anything that is not in the curriculum. She needs to stick to the book and stfu. Seriously - she needs to stfu.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. "stick to the book and stfu"
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:52 PM
Aug 2013

Wow, that's the recipe for some really outstanding teaching!

JustAnotherGen

(31,999 posts)
32. Dan Bates
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:24 PM
Aug 2013

At the Aquinas Institute in Rochester NY in 1987 did NOT stick to the book.

He told the class - I quote: ALL slaves ENJOYED being slaves.


Quite an epic argumentensued - but this then black 10th grader WON!

Yep - Social Studies/History - if you have 'issues' - STFU and teach the book. Our parents (that was a prep private school) were not paying him for his opinions. They were paying him for a perfect ACT, top SAT and entrance into University.

I'm not paying all of this money in Fed Taxes to have that woman give them opinions about their 'maws'. Although - I bet you she's teaching "The War of Northern Aggression" . . .


 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. How did you do on your ACT/SAT?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:56 PM
Aug 2013

It actually sounds like the experience of being able to out-argue a teacher in a 10th grade social studies/history class was quite a memorable and proud achievement for you.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
3. Before we lynch the teacher
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:24 PM
Aug 2013

...can we wait to see whether the accusation of one student is substantiated. Might be a good idea.

JustAnotherGen

(31,999 posts)
4. No one is going
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:29 PM
Aug 2013

to lynch a white woman in Louisiana over the internets.

And since we black folks never EVER get the benefit of the doubt on anything - I have NO problem assuming the worst about this woman.

My personal opinion and experience A black boy said it - going forward - what he says is ALWAYS true.

She has to disprove it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
16. She is not white
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:44 PM
Aug 2013

The teacher is a black woman, not a white woman.

JustAnotherGen

(31,999 posts)
33. My opinion doesn't change
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:25 PM
Aug 2013

STFU - and teach the book.


Would she have said that to a class room full of white kids?

Nope - She and Uncle Ruckus.

She needs to STFU and teach the book.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
40. That seems strange
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:51 PM
Aug 2013

Why not give her the benefit of the doubt rather than assume the middle school boy is being completely truthful?

Also, I hope they have a really good social studies book!

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
20. If you want "(you) black folks" to get the benefit of the doubt
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:51 PM
Aug 2013

...then since the teacher is black...um...guess you'll be giving her the benefit of the doubt?

Oops.

JustAnotherGen

(31,999 posts)
35. Nope
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:27 PM
Aug 2013

We all know there are vast disparities in the treatment of black children and white children in the education system. Had that been one of those 'Christian' read - re-segregated White Schools - she would NEVER had made a derogatory comment about those children.

We have a HIGH rec member here who is a self described SELF HATING black person - she has transferred her own hatred onto Obama.

I know the type.

Like that member - this woman is one.

For a humorous look - check out The Boondocks. Adult Swim. She's an Uncle Ruckus.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
38. She was honored as a Teacher of the Year just a few months ago
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:46 PM
Aug 2013

Maybe there is more to this African-American woman than you are able to glean from this one news article?

marble falls

(57,422 posts)
5. The accusations were strong enough for the shool to investigate.....
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:34 PM
Aug 2013

and the details already exposed jibe. Like the statement alleged from the teacher that they can have their mothers turn up in "booty pants and high heels" if they want but that the school can do nothing in that she is the "only social studies teacher" there. Not exactly a sort of kid's story detail.

cstanleytech

(26,345 posts)
10. *scratches head* That makes no sense.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:36 PM
Aug 2013

"The accusations were strong enough for the shool to investigate"

Investigations are the standard in general by most schools when "any" accusation is made I thought?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. Investigation is already over
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:45 PM
Aug 2013

"Appropriate action" has been taken according to the school board and the matter is closed.

cstanleytech

(26,345 posts)
6. Well this is the DU and of course we shouldnt lynch first and ask questions "later"
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:34 PM
Aug 2013

but many still do which oddly enough is something the idiots over at the freerepublic do 99% of the time as well.

marble falls

(57,422 posts)
9. Lets make a little bet on this. I'll go $20 to the charity of your choice on this: this story stands
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:36 PM
Aug 2013

cstanleytech

(26,345 posts)
12. I didnt say it wouldnt but I am also not omniscient like some here appear to believe they are. nt
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:39 PM
Aug 2013
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
41. Did you assume the teacher was white when you first read the story?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:52 PM
Aug 2013

That question is not meant rhetorically, I am genuinely curious.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. Thank you for your reasonable comment
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:53 PM
Aug 2013

People are falling into a lot of assumptions here.

The first one being that the teacher is white - she is not.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
7. Geez.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:36 PM
Aug 2013

On the first day? Everyone knows you have to wait until the second day of school before you bust that word out.

Seriously though, if the allegations are true, she should be fired yesterday.

"Booty shorts?" "maw?" Someone's got more issues than Sports Illustrated if this pans out.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. School board has investigated - she is not being fired
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:54 PM
Aug 2013

They issued a statement already.

jb5150

(1,184 posts)
8. Let me guess .....
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:36 PM
Aug 2013

...... she graduated from a bible based college?

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
11. What an asshole teacher!
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:38 PM
Aug 2013

She takes the "social" completely out of social studies...

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. That is a pretty brazen accusation
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:54 PM
Aug 2013

Are you prepared to stand by it?

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
28. Well, there's not much gray area there
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:05 PM
Aug 2013

If she's berating her students like that, she's an asshole teacher.

if she's not, the accuser needs professional help.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
29. I disagree on all counts
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:14 PM
Aug 2013

I think there is a lot of grey area - and I do not believe there is enough information to determine whether or not the epithet you used is a fair one.

I'm also not sure anyone needs professional help in this scenario.

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
36. You're not?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:36 PM
Aug 2013

If the teacher actually went on a tirade like that, she needs counseling. Sounds a little more far-fetched the more I think about it, but if a student told lies like that about his teacher on the first day of school, that student needs some counseling, I'd say.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
39. Not really
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:49 PM
Aug 2013

Kids exaggerate - that's pretty normal. And teachers can get annoyed with an unruly class. Seems like an intersection of those two realities is what we are dealing with here. Throwing in accusations of racial slurs manage to grab some headlines, but the more I read about the situation the more I think it is much ado about nothing. Especially considering the teacher herself is an teacher-of-the-year-winning African-American woman with many years of experience.

 

gussmith

(280 posts)
13. Whaat!
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:43 PM
Aug 2013

Is this real? A teacher displaying racist, negative, unacceptable behavior. I am struck; would like to know the specifics of her exit interview. Where would such a person come from and get qualified as a teacher?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
25. She is an award-winning African-American teacher
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:55 PM
Aug 2013

With many years of experience and positive reviews.

kag

(4,079 posts)
14. What's really scary is some of the comments after the story.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:43 PM
Aug 2013

I don't mind calling the teacher "innocent until proven guilty", but some of the comments are blaming the victim, and being just as racist as the story claims the teacher is.

If the allegations turn out to be true, the teacher needs to be fired. Not disciplined, not put on "temporary leave", but fired. I'm a huge supporter of the teachers union, but if they come to this woman's defense and try to get the parish to keep her as a teacher, that will piss me off.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
27. The investigation is done and she is not being fired
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:57 PM
Aug 2013

Parents maybe need to be a little more suspect when it comes to swallowing everything their children tell them about what goes on at school.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. The teacher is African-American
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:44 PM
Aug 2013

Just FYI.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
18. Oooh, another shiny toy from the DU Anecdotal Rage Factory! nt
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:46 PM
Aug 2013
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
31. Some folks jumped the gun on this one
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:24 PM
Aug 2013

The rage has slowed down a bit now that folks are finding out the teacher herself is African-American.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
26. I teach in a 100% African American school and some kids call each other the n-word
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:56 PM
Aug 2013

But teachers, no, that would not be tolerated at all.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
30. Have you ever encountered kids making stuff up about their teachers?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:15 PM
Aug 2013

Especially at the middle school age?

I think that is a pretty reasonable possibility here.

Baitball Blogger

(46,775 posts)
34. Why are they even debating this?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:27 PM
Aug 2013

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
37. She should be suspended pending the outcome of an honest investigation
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:44 PM
Aug 2013

Apparently that won't happen in this case.

 

jasond54231

(51 posts)
43. What a truly foolish teacher
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 03:08 PM
Aug 2013

She should be suspended immediately. There's no excuse for that kind of behavior in the classroom.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
44. Locking story beyond LBN time limits
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 03:23 PM
Aug 2013

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