Santorum: Democrats are "anti-science," not me

[Faygo Kid]

STEUBENVILLE, Ohio - Portraying himself as a native son of Western Pennsylvania and Eastern Ohio, Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum Monday emphasized his heritage as the grandson of a coal miner and railed against environmental regulations that have diminished the coal industry in the region.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we need someone who understands, who comes from the coal fields, who comes from the steel mills, who understands what average working people in America need to be able to provide for themselves and their families," Santorum said to a crowd of about 500 people in the Democratic-leaning eastern edge of the state.

Santorum's claim to have come "from the coal fields" is a stretch - by two generations. He has never worked in a coal mine. His parents' professions were psychologist and nurse, and Santorum is a lawyer who has spent all of his adult life in politics.

But he frequently invokes his grandfather, who worked in the auto factories of Detroit and then the coal mines of Western Pennsylvania after he immigrated to the United States from Italy.

In his remarks Monday, Santorum went beyond his usual discussion of the importance of increasing domestic energy production to deliver a blistering attack on environmental activists. He said global warming claims are based on "phony studies," and that climate change science is little more than "political science.". . .

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57381369-503544/santorum-democrats-are-anti-science-not-me/

This guy is self destructing before our eyes. All Romney has to do is sit tight and let Santorum and his team destroy themselves.

[FiveGoodMen]

1. "This guy is self destructing before our eyes"

And here I thought he was leading in the polls...

Don't make the mistake of thinking that a candidate who says increadibly stupid, demonstrably disprovable, utterly vile things is hurting his chances with THIS country's electorate.

Hate radio and the megachurches have made us dumber than rocks.

[Faygo Kid]

3. You could be right about the primaries, but in the general election?

He's toast.

[tclambert]

5. I do not see Jesus on that piece of toast,

or even Jerry Garcia.

[lastlib]

9. But I think I see Zig-Zag Man...

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

33. Yeah, me, too... but it is kind of hazy...

... - could be the toast or it could be the air space between my notebook screen and I.

[surrealAmerican]

83. Wait, you mean the Zig-Zag man ...

... was not Jerry Garcia?

I'm so disillusioned.

[lastlib]

86. maybe it WAS Jerry....

it is kinda fuzzy--is it the stuff I'm smokin?

to Jerry, and all things Dead

[HubertHeaver]

23. "The Scream" is in that toast

[Gore1FL]

56. You aren't looking hard enough

[IMG][/IMG]

You're Welcome.

[The Wizard]

75. This guy

[red dog 1]

84. You're right, it is Mr Natural .....(I knew it wasn't Mr Zig-Zag)

[politicasista]

24. Let's use this on the Republicans rather than attack

Democrats for "selling out" as we have done in the past. JAHO.

[csziggy]

37. OMG - there's Santorum on that toast!

Google it - http://spreadingsantorum.com/

Better throw it out and make a new piece.

[pangaia]

46. Yes, in the General election as well.

Just consider how many people actually voted for Gollum and the wicked witch of the northwest.

[left on green only]

6. Not to mention Pox news

.

[roguevalley]

10. gift that keeps on giving

[tblue37]

39. And the votes are counted by Republican owned machines, without a veriafiable paper trail.

Furthermore, as in 2004 and 2008, they are making sure that voter suppression tactics will keep the margin of victory thin enough for Demcoratic candidates to enable republican losers to steal many House and Sentate seats, and possibly even the WH.

Oh, and on edit: Don't forget that the major media oulets are owned by Republican backers, so it's hard for Dems to even get their message out or for voters to hear about half of the awful stuff Repubs say to their rabid base. A lot of what we have known about for years isn' even on the radar for many independent voters! Where would they ever hear about it? Sure, FOX is transaprentlyout and out the propaganda arm of the Republican Party, but the rest of the MSM are also in the bag. Even MSNBC is largely RW or at best center right, with just a few sane voices on the actual left.

[Roland99]

82. But who's easier to beat in November?

Santorum hasn't a chance with independents and maybe not even moderate Republicans and certainly no one on the left!

[Blue Owl]

2. Like the undisputed, rock-solid science behind Santorum's claim

that women should only fly small planes, for example.

[rfranklin]

11. And I just flew on a 737 piloted by a woman!

I didn't realize how close to death I came!

[Blue Owl]

53. A science-defying miracle...

A MIRACLE I tell you!

:ROFL:

[fascisthunter]

4. no, you are just another sociopath who has no problem lying

no matter how bat shit you sound, you'll never realize it, because you are too fucked up in the head.

[Mz Pip]

7. My grandfather was a coal miner, too

and the closest I've ever been to one was when I took that coal mine ride at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry.

[tblue37]

41. My Sicilian imigrant grandfather also was a coal miner--in Northeastern Pennsylvania. nt

[onlyadream]

76. I can top that

My grandfather was killed in an explosion in a coal mine. Should I run for office now? Evidently, that would somehow be an asset, despite the fact that my life couldn't be more different than my ancestors.

[socialindependocrat]

8. Gramps must have shortened his name from Sanitorium - what a whak!!

I agree, the more the guy gains in the polls the more he lets his
true views be known.

He's starting to make Ron Paul sound moderate.

[evilhime]

52. That is great!

LOL sanitorium superb... thank you, that remark made my night!

The man needs to read the Bible - custodians of the earth means taking care of it, not killing it.

[Fortran]

12. I finally figured out who he reminds me of! If you see him on tv, cover up the top half of his face

with your hand and think of....John Ashcroft.

Isn't there a creepy resemblance?

[pangaia]

47. Pauxatauny Phil

[AlbertCat]

55. Isn't there a creepy resemblance?

"Let the eagle sooooooar...."

[RoccoR5955]

87. I refuse to listen to that

Because each and every time I listen to it, my ears bleed!

[lastlib]

13. Tomorrow he'll say he meant "phony studies" the same way he meant "phony theology"...

....what a lying smelly bag of sh1t he is. We can let him be president of the asylum inmates, but we CANNOT let him get close to the White House as President of the US. This country will look like Afghanistan under the Taliban after four years of his sewage. Maybe he needs a new nickname: "Mullah Ricky".

[tblue37]

42. Americans are probably more familiar with the term "Ayatolla." nt

[pangaia]

49. The Ayatollah Santorum

[pangaia]

48. The Ayatollah Santorum

[DinahMoeHum]

14. Rick Sanitorium: Like A Rock, Only Dumber

He belongs in a padded cell, wearing a straitjacket.

[Dont call me Shirley]

22. Oh, give the rocks some credit. How about a lump of coal, only dumber.

[DinahMoeHum]

29. Coal, at least, has some use. Icky Ricky doesn't.

n/t

[Scootaloo]

15. Well, there IS all that anti-medicine woo

But since Santorum is a likely advocate of the "healing power of prayer," I wouldn't expect him to take that line.

Frankly a man who doesn't even understand his own religion has no space to talk about science at all. If you really can't grasp a concept like "Sky-Daddy says take care of the poor," then how the fuck are you going to understand the importance of tenths-of-a-degree shifts, parts per million, and hte idea that gasses can be weighed at tons?

[rocktivity]

16. What will he do for an encore -- declare that the world is flat?

rocktivity

[wandy]

80. +1 I like it!

[liberal N proud]

17. wtf

[Bosso 63]

18. Is he talking about the science of 2012 or 1212?

Santorum: Building a bridge to the Middle Ages for America!

[PatSeg]

19. Once he lets a little of the "crazy" leak out,

he can't stop it and now its turning into a FLOOD.

[Dont call me Shirley]

20. Sanitorium suffers from long term mercury poisoning.

Mercury passes through the placenta and the blood-brain barrier like a magnet during fetal developement causing brain damage and other physical/mental/emotional anomalities. The only phony in the room is little Ricky.

[politicasista]

21. Bout time we start attacking the GOP

Just sayin.

[Fuddnik]

26. Ok, you start. We'll be by later.

The second time you've said this irrelevant stuff in this thread.

[politicasista]

28. Nothing irrelevant.

The OP once called a good Dem a "sell out" (which was never the case after the facts were posted). We always eat our own, and never attacking the ones who are the REAL flip-flopping sellouts.


We should be attacking them more, but guess that people will always hold a grudge against a certain Dem for beating popular ones.


This may bother people, but I am calling how I see it.

[xtraxritical]

61. You're just way to "hip" for me. WTF are you talking about?

[politicasista]

63. Just being honest

Some DUers (OP) have accused some good Dems (liberal one) of "selling us out" during the Supercommittee mess. As it turned out, that wasn't the case, but how many times have you seen us referring to the GOP as selling us (aka the American people) out? Not often.

Again, just an observation and being honest. And applaud this thread because Santo is a lying dope. Just saying that it's about time we go after the GOP rather than going after our own all the time.

Love being hip, thanks.


Peace.

[Brother Buzz]

34. Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake - Napoleon Bonaparte

[politicasista]

36. Understand, but just being brutally honest

We don't attack the GOP enough, instead we trash Democrats for "selling us out" (when he/they didn't), yet can't say that the GOP were the real sellouts, the real flip-floppers here. Sorry that people think that is "irrelevant."


Note, this isn't meant to be a callout on anyone. Just an observation.

[SaintPete]

25. Well neiner neiner...we're rubber, you're glue

WHOA...Calm down there spunky, I didn't say WEAR a rubber. What you do with little Ricky is between you and Mrs Santorum (the poor thing...does she go by her maiden name? Can't imagine anyone gladly calling themselves "Misses Santorum"...).

[Brettongarcia]

27. What's in Steubenville Ohio? One source of Santorum's own phony theology: Franciscan U.

Eastern Ohio and Penn. were once the working-class periphery of America: coal minds and oil. And? Nearby Franciscans taught the locals a simple, self-sacrificing religion. One that was a good way to get people to do down into dangerous coal mines. With promises of an afterlife if you were killed.

Out of this? Nearby Philly, is one of the most anti-intellectual major cities in the nation; home of Rocky Balboa. Who taught everyone that having big mucles and being stupid, is cool. That physical power is the way to win everything; that mind counts as nothing. And endless suffering is good.

And so, as for the kind of religion Santorum knows and loves? There's a superstious, watered down Catholic fundamentalism. With Franciscan University of Stebenville, as its "brain trust." With no brain at all behind it.

All that idiocy found its megaphone, unfortunately, in arch conservative/right wing "Catholic" organ, EWTN, EWRN. The network that claims to be the official voice of the Catholic Church; though it was cut off from the church c. 2001; and is run by "lay" right wing ideologes.

EWTN? Eternal Word Television Network. This is the real center of Santorum's power base. It is "one issue" anti-abortion network, that claims to be found in more than one hundred million households, worldwide. And that is in fact, the massively effective chief propagandist, for the kind of one-issue anti-abortion Catholicism that Santorum often backs. Even though any dis "proportionate," "one issue" Catholicism was condemned by at least three Cardinals: Card. McCarrick, Card. Bernardin, and Cardinal Joe Ratzinger/Pope Bendict XIV. (Ratzinger/ Benedict xvi: "Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion," 2004 memo, Vatican.va; footnote).

So where is the propoganda apparatus that supported Santorum? Among others, Stubenville - sometimes known as "stupid-ville" - along with EWTN. That is Santorum's power base. It was (until very lately?) grand central for the most idiotic version of Catholicism imaginable. A sort of working-class demend for a few simple rules to follow. With no subtlety, no escape. Just pray ... and go down to die in the coal mines, like a good suffering Catholic.

This is where Santorum's own limited, "one issue," "phony theology" was developed.

(For more on the sins of one-issue anti-abortionism? See Brettongarcia's blog, on Pro Abortion Theology).

[CatholicEdHead]

38. I also thought of FU when I saw Stubenville

It used to be a moderate, liberal Catholic college. In the past couple decades it is now one of the most regressive and conservative Catholic colleges and media hubs in the nation. FU gives other Catholic colleges a bad name.

[Thor_MN]

60. I also think FU when I think of Santorum

but my version is not nearly so scholarly...

[mmonk]

85. Ironically, here in Raleigh, the most liberal Catholic Church

is run by Fransciscan brothers.

[jimlup]

30. Unfortunately - it sounds very different to his base than it does to us

And they are the ones voting right now. I think this guy may actually force a brokered convention which may end up Romney with VP as Santorum. What an ass clown!

I think he'll be in more than a little trouble in the general but if he is relegated to VP he might attack some frothing at the mouth right wing science deniers who otherwise might not vote.

[shireen]

31. how does one possibly respond ...

[Solly Mack]

32. Snort

[Bossy Monkey]

35. Ah! So it's Opposite Day then! Thanks for clearing that up for me, Rick. n/t

[LiberalLovinLug]

54. Its the classic Republican attack

Accuse the other side of what you are guilty of...in this case being anti-science.

But I think it would be difficult for that to work in this case, when 95% of climate scientists are on the other side.

[IcyPeas]

40. doesn't he always sound like he's talking to a class of 6th graders? /eom

[MiniMe]

43. If he understood the coal miners, he would be FOR the unions

what a load of hogwash. My grandfather died from black lung.

[Bozita]

44. GOPers often accuse others of what they themselves are doing

And that's the case here with Santorum.

[jimlup]

78. I'd go beyond the word "often" and say they do it like clockwork...

It must be part of the course: Republicanism 101

[pangaia]

45. As I posted in another thread..

None of this is funny.

Although I do appreciate some of the humorous comments. :&gt

We should from now on refer to this guy as The Ayatollah Santorum, GREAT LEADER of the American Taliban. Spread it everywhere.. YouTube, anyone?

[LonePirate]

50. Isn't Frothy a creationist? That's pretty anti-science if you ask me.

[tclambert]

57. Creationists think they are scientists.

They just define science as whatever the Book of Genesis says. (Look, it has "gene" right in the title. That sounds scientific.) All those people who went to college and studied textbooks and ran experiments and earned PhD's are just misled. They could've saved a lot of time if they just read the Bible. Oh, and remember, when something about creationism defies all logic, it's just evidence of a miracle. And the Grand Canyon was created by the Great Flood of Noah.

What Santorum meant, though, was that Global Warming is a hoax perpetrated by environmentalists, led by Al Gore, who secretly want to wreck our economy, like they did in 2008. He knows this because Exxon Mobil told him so, and they have no reason to lie.

[TBF]

51. Ricky's grandfather is likely spinning in his grave -

in the old country they were communists:

Rick Santorum’s Communist Clan in Italy
by Barbie Latza Nadeau Jan 11, 2012 6:36 AM EST
Back in Italy, the ultraconservative has a family full of liberals and communists. Barbie Latza Nadeau on their reaction to his surprise surge—and their advice now that he’s sinking.

In the tiny town of Riva del Garda in northern Italy, 83-year-old-Maria Malacarne Santorum keeps her family’s secrets—including those of her late husband’s cousin, Rick. In an exclusive interview with the Italian weekly magazine Oggi, Mrs. Santorum recalls fondly when Rick visited her in 1985 during his law internship in Florence, and when he came back again in 1986 and 1989. “He loved our culture and cuisine so much, he brought his wife-to-be, Karen, a massive cookbook of Italian recipes,” she said.

But the elder Santorum matriarch doesn’t understand why he has diverged so far from the family’s longtime political stance. “In Riva del Garda his grandfather Pietro and uncles were ‘red communists’ to the core,” writes Oggi journalist Giuseppe Fumagalli, likening the family to “Peppone” after a famous fictional Italian communist mayor who fought against an ultraconservative priest known as Don Cammillo and about which a popular television series is based. “But on the other side of the ocean, it’s like his family here doesn’t exist. Instead he draws crowds as the head of the ultraconservative faction of the Republican party, against divorce, gay marriage, abortion, and immigration.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/11/rick-santorum-s-italian-family-speaks-out.html

[Amonester]

66. Oh, he still is a 'communist' but...

for the Rich only, and their corporate 'persons' (above all laws).

[dimbear]

68. Maria Malacarne Santorum?

Mary "Bad-meat" Santorum?

The whole family is full of unfortunate names.
Those Italians.
It's perverse.

[DallasNE]

58. Oh, Those Darn Environmentalists

When the Cuyahoga River caught fire in Cleveland those darn environmentalists demanded that dumping in the river stop. Today that river has been mostly cleaned up. And where were those environmentalists when the Love Canal was discovered -- same darn thing. And when all of the fish died in the lakes in the Northeast, including Pennsylvania, due to acid rain, what happened. Those darn environmentalists demanded that scrubbers be installed in the smokestacks of all coal fired power plants. Today there are again fish in those lakes. And, yes, it was science that figured out the cause and remedy for all of the fish being killed. Those "phoney studies" sure identified and fixed a lot of environmental disasters. One thing they failed to do was to give Santorum a brain.

[Relentless Bitch]

59. Ain't it sad?

George Orwell isn't around to appreciate this fool.

[Hissyspit]

62. Some people are idiots, but not assholes. Some people are assholes, but not idiots.

Then there are the idiot assholes. There is a reason he is the victim of the most notorious Google bomb in history.

[tex-wyo-dem]

64. global warming claims are based on "phony studies,"

Massive

:screaming at the heavens:

:wondering how anyone could believe this load of horseshit from the dead fetus guy:

:don't ever underestimate the level of manipulation people can succumb to:

:the stupid...it hurts:

Sanitorum wouldn't know science if it bit him in the naughty bits.

[Mkap]

65. Capitalist jesus came to him...

He worked in the coal mines and then Capitalist Jesus appeared to him and said

"Go forth and make the rich richer"

and told Rick the plight of the poor coal mine owner who only makes 7 million a year when he could really be making 9 million a year

[Major Hogwash]

67. Because fracking is good for people! Great science there, Little Ricky.

Maybe you can explain it to your 3 fans when you get home today.

[MrMickeysMom]

69. What a fuckcicle this Santorum is...

His collage life was a lie, as he smoked pot, too (BFD), his short lived Senate blow and the fact he lied where he lived when in the Commonwealth is a big fat lie. He owes money in Penn Hills, I'm sure. He milked what he could while not having his wife squeeze out children. God, children of Santorum... sounds like a cause to donate to.

This sweater-vest, white boy holy and scientific image is just too much, especially when combined with the latest "anti Islamist" Obama rhetoric - absolutely laughable. Somebody show this guy the door and don't let it hit him in his ignorant ass on the way out.

[mwb970]

70. But Romney is self destructing as well.

"I love the trees here, they are just the right height" is not something a future president says. This is something a robot with a prototype of English Language Module WMR-2012 installed says.

The republican race is down to a scary, out-of-touch religious zealot and a greedy, out-of-touch Wall Street banker, neither of whom stands a chance of ousting the Man Of the People we already have in the White House. No amount of screeching or squalling by right-wing extremists will have the slightest effect on this outcome.

[raouldukelives]

73. Scientists are anti-science!

Sky cake! Bleeble blabble!

[The Wizard]

74. Republicans are like the Taliban

The only thing they like about modernity is the weapons.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

77. He lives on five acres in McLean, Virginia.

Someone look up real estate values in McLean. He doesn't have to drive past too many coal mines to get to the nearest Audi dealer.

[Madmiddle]

79. The reason Why Santorum lost by 18% in Pennsylvania is obvious

He's very fucking stupid...He's is one of the most clueless assholes out there on the presidential campaign trail. these GOP cadidates are showing anyone willing to watch, how extremly un American they are. The longer the campaign goes the more stupidity comes out of these creeps.

[DesertRat]

81. Wait! What??!