Paul leads in Iowa
Paul leads in Iowa
Newt Gingrich's campaign is rapidly imploding, and Ron Paul has now taken the lead in Iowa. He's at 23% to 20% for Mitt Romney, 14% for Gingrich, 10% each for Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann, and Rick Perry, 4% for Jon Huntsman, and 2% for Gary Johnson.
Gingrich has now seen a big drop in his Iowa standing two weeks in a row. His share of the vote has gone from 27% to 22% to 14%. And there's been a large drop in his personal favorability numbers as well from +31 (62/31) to +12 (52/40) to now -1 (46/47). Negative ads over the last few weeks have really chipped away at Gingrich's image as being a strong conservative- now only 36% of voters believe that he has 'strong principles,' while 43% think he does not.
Paul's ascendancy is a sign that perhaps campaigns do matter at least a little, in a year where there has been a lot of discussion about whether they still do in Iowa. 22% of voters think he's run the best campaign in the state compared to only 8% for Gingrich and 5% for Romney. The only other candidate to hit double digits on that question is Bachmann at 19%. Paul also leads Romney 26-5 (with Gingrich at 13%) with the 22% of voters who say it's 'very important' that a candidate spends a lot of time in Iowa. Finally Paul leads Romney 29-19 among the 26% of likely voters who have seen one of the candidates in person.
Paul's base of support continues to rely on some unusual groups for a Republican contest. Among voters under 45 he's at 33% to 16% for Romney and 11% for Gingrich. He's really going to need that younger than normal electorate because with seniors Romney's blowing him out 31-15 with Gingrich coming in 2nd at 18%. Paul is also cleaning up 35-14 with the 24% of voters who identify as either Democrats or independents. Romney is actually ahead 22-19 with GOP voters. Young people and non-Republicans are an unusual coalition to hang your hat on in Iowa, and it will be interesting to see if Paul can actually pull it off.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/12/paul-leads-in-iowa.html
comipinko
(541 posts)rfranklin
(13,200 posts)I was trying to explain to him how he would probably be more taxed than he is now but somehow he thinks it is fairer than a progressive tax, because everyone "pays the same."
He lives in NJ if that provides any perspective.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)a line from the SNL character playing New York Governor David Patterson)
Denninmi
(6,581 posts)Paul would be a great nominee for our side. Nutso plus would get zippo support from the Repug insiders.
But, I doubt that he will even win anything, let alone get to nomination land.
Probably gonna be Mittens.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)would Romney trail, 23-20%?
think
(11,641 posts)DocMac
(1,628 posts)CanonRay
(14,101 posts)sorry.
DocMac
(1,628 posts)will name his son Kim Jong Um?
I'm starting to wonder if Il = Jr. and Un = III.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)In English it would be Il Kim and his son, Un Kim. I don't know Korean so I'm thinking I remember this from somewhere.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)racist homophobic Paul. Of course he's again, he's the nuttiest.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)Romney cannot seem to capitalize on the misfortunes of his competition. His support in Iowa seems stuck at 20%, no matter who is currently 'imploding'.
Does Romney max out at 20-25% nationwide? If so, there's no way he can win the nomination on the first ballot and we're looking at a brokered convention (which would be really cool, in an anthropological sense
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)That's a nice response to FOX "News" brainwashing by Cenk.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)arbusto_baboso
(7,162 posts)Paul voted FOR the war in Afghanistan.
And if you look at his positions more closely, you'll see he isn't against war generally. Just when it doesn't make money for the US.
agentS
(1,325 posts)He's right about Obama because Iowa Democratic caucuses are not populated with social conservative nutcases. Their views are more consistent with mainstream Americans than their Repub counterparts. Thereafter, it's easier to translate a victory there into success in other areas. Hillary didn't do badly in Iowa either and went on win N.H. and maintain serious credibility.
Case in point- Huckabee. Won Iowa and didn't do well elsewhere.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)I can easily see them being out maneuvered by more experienced, establishment folks. My prediction is that Romney wins Iowa, which will propel him in NH and cement his nomination.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)His fans are rabid and excited but his victory is unlikely. Romney will take New Hampshire, Paul may or may not thake Iowa. Usually though the important state in the republican primary is South Caronlina I think.
pampango
(24,692 posts)In October, Paul said the difference between Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party was that the protesters of the former are "Scared to death they won't get their handouts," while the latter are "sick and tired of paying for it," NBC News reported. "Im on the side of sick and tired of paying for it," Paul explained. But the Tea Party doesn't want him on their side. While the Tea Party has an image of libertarian political novices spurred to action against government spending -- and not all that interested in social issues -- polls show that's not true.
In October 2010, a Public Religion Research Institute study found that more than half of Tea Partiers say America is a "Christian nation" -- more than the 40 percent of evangelicals who think that. They're social conservatives on same sex marriage. Another poll last year found that 88 percent of supporters of the Tea Party support Arizona's tough immigration crackdown. This fall, 60 percent of Tea Party Republicans said the best way to ensure peace was through "military strength" -- compared to 47 percent of Republicans and 31 percent of voters over all, the Pew Research Center found. The survey found that 81 percent of Tea Party Republicans want military spending to stay the same or increase.
Those positions are at odds with Paul's. He thinks government should get out of the marriage business altogether. He wants to cut military spending and engage Iran. In the primary debates, Paul has said that if the U.S. tries to build a fence along the border with Mexico, it might be not so much about keeping illegal immigrants out, but keeping Americans in.
GodlessBiker
(6,314 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)...this clown has been sucking off of the tax payers since he first went into office.
He's old...he's tired...he's a nut!
And as flavor of the month for the GOPBagger Party...boring!
I just hope that the Baggers pick themselves a super-duper freak from the GOPBagger Clown Car. If so,
it will be a landslide for President Obama.
melonkali
(114 posts)They don't realize what they have in Huntsman -- and I hope that ignorance continues.