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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 03:46 PM Nov 2013

How serious are the PS4's Blue Light of Death and broken hardware reports?

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by azurnoir (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Gamespot

Just a few days after launch, the PlayStation had already earned a dubious honor: a nickname for its potentially fatal flaw. What some users are calling the Blue Light of Death, mimicking the infamous Red Ring of Death that plagued the launch of the Xbox 360 for years, has forced hundreds of PlayStation 4 owners to send their systems back to Sony and vent their frustrations in online reviews and forums. But just how widespread is the issue?

While it's impossible to accurately gauge how far the claims of broken systems extend, prior to launch Sony shared that their expected failure rate for the console was 0.4%. To put that in perspective, that's about 1 in 250. With over one million PlayStation 4 systems sold, that comes to about 4,000 potentially broken systems. While that's a small number compared to the 996,000 that do work, that's little consolation if you're one of the 4,000 affected waiting to mail a $400 paperweight back to Sony.

This is also the first console-launch since the wide spread of social media, where users can quickly and easily share their opinions with a world-wide audience ready to listen. And studies have shown that people are much more likely to share negative experiences over positive ones. We've grown accustomed to publicly berating companies that offer a subpar service and crowd-sourcing our troubleshooting needs, asking friends on Twitter or Facebook for advice before trying to go through any official channels.

Even still, the PlayStation forums have several constantly growing posts dedicated to broken PS4 systems, and the Amazon review thread is divided between 5 star and 1 star reviews, with most of the 1 star reviews specifically calling out the flashing blue light


Read more: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/how-serious-are-the-ps4-s-blue-light-of-death-and-broken-hardware-reports/1100-6416222/



I think I am going to wait a few months this time before taking the plunge on either a PS4 or Xbox One. Too bad the Wii U is not more robust.
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How serious are the PS4's Blue Light of Death and broken hardware reports? (Original Post) TomCADem Nov 2013 OP
Never buy consoles at launch Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #1
The XBox One Is A Huge Box Compared To PS4 TomCADem Nov 2013 #3
Unless you plan to Hayabusa Nov 2013 #4
This. ^^ Maynar Nov 2013 #6
me too. we were thinking of this as a xmas gift to our duaghter leftyohiolib Nov 2013 #2
I got my PS4 delivered Friday! gater Nov 2013 #5
Well then, impeach Obama. zbdent Nov 2013 #7
I'd settle for defunding Sony Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #8
What is this "console" of which you speak? NickB79 Nov 2013 #9
Get minecraft. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #12
That's exactly why I game on PC. Initech Nov 2013 #10
Fatal? Does this blue light kill you? Harry Monroe Nov 2013 #11
It's fatal for the PS4. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #14
Nintendo products have always been the most reliable. Wii U is the best choice. johnlucas Nov 2013 #13
Exceptionally glad I waited. Arkana Nov 2013 #15
Mine works fine. davepc Nov 2013 #16
Sony sold 1 million boxes in the first 24 hours Mosby Nov 2013 #17
sorry locking azurnoir Nov 2013 #18

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
1. Never buy consoles at launch
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 03:49 PM
Nov 2013

I always wait a few years. By then, all hardware issues are addressed, the price has dropped, and there is a decent software library available.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
3. The XBox One Is A Huge Box Compared To PS4
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 03:58 PM
Nov 2013

I understand they were trying to overcompensate to address cooling issues, since they were stung with red ring of death issues at their launch. So, the Xbox One looks like it could gobble up two PS4's because it has more cooling gear. Still, I think I am going to wait a few months to see which is more reliable, rather than buying based on reports of pixel counts.

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
4. Unless you plan to
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 03:58 PM
Nov 2013

resell them for profit online...

Maynar

(769 posts)
6. This. ^^
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:11 PM
Nov 2013

I never buy version 1.0 of anything, if I can help it.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
2. me too. we were thinking of this as a xmas gift to our duaghter
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 03:50 PM
Nov 2013

gater

(297 posts)
5. I got my PS4 delivered Friday!
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:02 PM
Nov 2013

Love it. Set-up was way easier than the PS3. No issues at all. Have been playing "Killzone: Shadow Fall", and it has amazing graphics and physics. I also really like the OWL in the game itself. Oh, and this is the first console that prompted me to be an early adopter! Cannot wait for "Dying Light"!

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
7. Well then, impeach Obama.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:48 PM
Nov 2013

Make him resign ...

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
8. I'd settle for defunding Sony
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:33 PM
Nov 2013

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
9. What is this "console" of which you speak?
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:47 PM
Nov 2013

I have a 3-yr old that keeps me too busy to even consider powering up the 360.

A friend sent me this, and I didn't know whether to laugh or cry: http://www.funnyjunk.com/poor+sod/funny-pictures/4885708/

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
12. Get minecraft.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 12:25 AM
Nov 2013

Have the kid give you direction. Build together.

It's like playing legos with him, but no fuss no muss no cleanup.

(Maybe turn off the nighttime monsters though)

Initech

(100,081 posts)
10. That's exactly why I game on PC.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:53 PM
Nov 2013

Graphics too sluggish? Buy a new GPU, install, load new drivers. Done. Play new games with better graphics while being able to keep your old favorites.

Harry Monroe

(2,935 posts)
11. Fatal? Does this blue light kill you?
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 09:08 PM
Nov 2013

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
14. It's fatal for the PS4.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 08:53 AM
Nov 2013

It's common to use fatal in technology speak, such as the much hatred fatal errors of Windows.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
13. Nintendo products have always been the most reliable. Wii U is the best choice.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:05 AM
Nov 2013

Remember the Game Boy?

In the 1991 Gulf War, a soldier had a Game Boy in his barracks & then all of a sudden here comes a mortar attack!
The troops had to scramble including the Game Boy owner leaving his Game Boy behind in the process.
The soldier later discovered that his Game Boy somehow survived the attack & was STILL WORKING!
Charred up & melted yet still playing the very same Tetris cartridge it was playing before it was bombed!
Soldier somewhere along the line donated the battle-worn Game Boy to Nintendo & they put it on display at their Nintendo World Store in New York City.
22 years later it STILL WORKS with that VERY SAME Tetris cartridge playing within it.

Here's the item in question.




Another example.
A few years ago G4TV decided to do a stress test on the competing consoles of the 6th generation era—Sony's PlayStation 2, Microsoft's XBox, & Nintendo's Gamecube.
Smashing it with heavy weights, dropping it from stories high, & hitting it with a sledgehammer.
G4TV host Morgan Webb did the hands-on testing & guess which console survived the destruction?




Another example.
Some dudes decided to drag a Nintendo Gamecube behind a car for some reason.
They wanted to see how strong the Gamecube was & how much damage it could take.
Gamecube bounced violently off the pavement, ate the grass, just damaged all around (a poster on the comment board said that another car hit the Gamecube which was edited out of the footage).
The game disc lid was loose & unhinged & it didn't look like the thing would work.

They turn it on later when they get to their house & you can guess the results (they even put a game in it).




One last example.
A site called GizmoSlip decided to do a drop test on the Wii U Gamepad, that tablet-like controller for the Wii U.
(I call it the Upad)
The GizmoSlip host dropped it at 4 foot heights from different angles. Guess what was the result.




People have come up with a catchphrase for this Nintendo phenomenon: Nintendium.
And there are so many anecdotes of Nintendo consoles, cartridges, & discs left outside for months in the snowy cold & the drenching rains, accidentally left in clothes pockets while going through the washing machine, dropped into toilets full of water, surviving house fires yet still surviving & still working.

The site TVTropes.org has a series of entries for Nintendo under its Tonka Tough trope.
Some of the accounts under these entries sound almost like Ripley's Belieive It Or Not level but they are all true.

It's very simple. Nintendo which started as (and still is) a playing card company also became a toy company in the 1960s.
Kids tear up stuff. We know this. So you have to make something that can stand up to the many many innovative ways a kid can destroy an item. Good toy companies know this.
Kids make up & will always make up a major component of Nintendo's audience so their products have to stand up to a kid's abuse.
The high-tech toys known as videogames & videogame consoles fall right into line with that philosophy.


Nintendo is one of the last of the 'Maytag washer' style of companies making products today.
Those old commercials with the bored lonely Maytag repairman exampling the durability of Maytag products (at least once upon a time).
That represents Nintendo's commitment to quality. A quality they maintain in hardware as well as software.
I have Nintendo consoles from over 20 years ago & they still work as good as new top this day despite being caked in layers of dust from years of non-use.
You get your money's worth from Nintendo. They're one of the last companies in the world to actually give a damn.

And they treat their staff very well. When the company goes through a rough patch the president of the company doesn't go around firing his staff to cut costs.
HE takes the pay cut instead.
Satoru Iwata is his name, the successor to the late Hiroshi Yamauchi who transitioned Nintendo from playing cards to videogames.
Nintendo President Takes Blame for 3DS, Getting 50 Per Cent Pay Cut
Satoru Iwata Refuses to Layoff Nintendo Employees

For this reason alone, people should get behind Nintendo.
The Progressives & Democrats at this site should see Nintendo as business done RIGHT.
High quality durable products at affordable prices that last a lifetime backed by a corporate structure that values their employees & their customers.

All this talk about PlayStations & XBoxes...
Nintendo brought this videogame business back from the brink of death in the 1980s & have made it what it is today.
This is their field, this is their baby. Others will come, others will go but Nintendo will always be here like that old oak tree in the forest.
The real home console to look at is the Wii U.
John Lucas

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
15. Exceptionally glad I waited.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 11:15 AM
Nov 2013

davepc

(3,936 posts)
16. Mine works fine.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:28 PM
Nov 2013

Been rock solid from moment one, and it got a lot of use over the weekend.

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
17. Sony sold 1 million boxes in the first 24 hours
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:45 PM
Nov 2013

at 400 a pop.

I really don't understand the popularity of video game consoles.



azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
18. sorry locking
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 02:23 PM
Nov 2013

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