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davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:20 PM Jan 2014

US ready to aid Russia on Olympic security: Pentagon

Source: AFP/Yahoo

Washington (AFP) - The United States is ready to help Russia's security operation for the Winter Olympics, the Pentagon said Saturday, after twin suicide bombings sparked concern next month's extravaganza could be targeted.

US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel offered American support during a phone conversation with his Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu, the Pentagon said.

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"Secretary Hagel also assured Minister Shoigu that the United States stands ready to provide security assistance to Russia for the Winter Olympics in Sochi, if requested."


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/us-ready-aid-russia-olympic-security-pentagon-185449188--oly.html



I do not support this. Russia's bid is just that, theirs. They are responsible for providing security.
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US ready to aid Russia on Olympic security: Pentagon (Original Post) davidpdx Jan 2014 OP
Makes far more sense than risking another Munich. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #1
Either one, or supporting Meglomaniacs.... orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #4
I fear your words could ring true... SkyDaddy7 Jan 2014 #8
All this " New World Order " is being PAID for by Whom ? orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #2
Russia & the Olympic Committee. SkyDaddy7 Jan 2014 #10
As they should . orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #23
who, in their right minds, would invite U.S. "security" help except in the direst... mike_c Jan 2014 #3
"Can we bring our Saudi friends " ? /nt jakeXT Jan 2014 #5
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #9
Any excuse to start another front of the US waronterra. morningfog Jan 2014 #6
And is Russia so incapable? Demeter Jan 2014 #7
Lets hope you are correct... SkyDaddy7 Jan 2014 #11
That sounds really funny coming from this country. jtuck004 Jan 2014 #14
In over their heads? Why? former9thward Jan 2014 #15
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #25
Best comment yet davidpdx Jan 2014 #18
First off Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #12
True, True, and Truer . orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #19
+1 warrant46 Jan 2014 #21
And if you don't invite us, we will set up cameras on S. Palin's front porch and watch you. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2014 #13
We offer this because we cooperate in counterterrorism with Russia. TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #16
The problem is when you bid for the Olympics davidpdx Jan 2014 #17
Bingo !!!! orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #20
Well, yes, but...at this point, do they call off the games? That is pretty unlikely TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #24
Your pretty free and easy with solutions, how long orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #26
I think it sets a bad precedent for future Olympics that other countries will bail another out davidpdx Jan 2014 #30
That's the problem, No one knows, and Anyway -- the Military is for orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #22
Isn't bombing the Olympics everyone's problem? RC Jan 2014 #27
Let me ask you davidpdx Jan 2014 #31
Let me ask you some things. RC Jan 2014 #32
It's not about being an adversary or not, or being right or left as you assume davidpdx Jan 2014 #33
I see no problem with offering Russia security help, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #28
Opposed. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #29

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
8. I fear your words could ring true...
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 08:07 PM
Jan 2014

There will be at least one or more attacks or at least attempts during the games lets just hope Russia knows what they are doing in terms of security or Putin's little pet project could go down as the worse games ever! Even worse than Munich or even Atlanta when the Christian Tea Bagger terrorist, Eric Rudolph bombed, the 1996 Olympics.

We will see.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
3. who, in their right minds, would invite U.S. "security" help except in the direst...
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:29 PM
Jan 2014

...of circumstances? "Hey, can we borrow the keys to Putin's dacha? We PROMISE not to spy on anyone but terrorists!"

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
7. And is Russia so incapable?
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 08:00 PM
Jan 2014

I don't think so. For one thing, they aren't wasting their time and money collecting everything on everyone in the world who has access to electricity...

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
11. Lets hope you are correct...
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 08:09 PM
Jan 2014

However, so far it appears Russia is in over their heads...We will see.

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
15. In over their heads? Why?
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 08:35 PM
Jan 2014

Should we cancel marathons in this country since one was bombed? We were clearly in over our heads since we could not stop that bombing even though we were warned by foreign intelligence services, including Russia, about the bombers.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
12. First off
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 08:22 PM
Jan 2014

we shouldn't be there, just like we should not have gone to Beijing.

Second, why invite the most incompetent security "experts" in the world? Inviting Israel, I can understand, but the the only thing the U.S. is good for is arresting the wrong people, spying on innocent people, and killing people during interrogation/arrest.

Third, why is tax-payer money be wasted on this nonsense? The Olympics is nothing but a corporate sports orgy.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
16. We offer this because we cooperate in counterterrorism with Russia.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 09:24 PM
Jan 2014

I don't see anything wrong with offering help--they are free to turn us down, but the gesture of goodwill is there. I believe we will provide some of our own security for the US delegation, anyway--whether it's military in nature, I don't know.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
17. The problem is when you bid for the Olympics
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 09:41 PM
Jan 2014

you are also saying that you are able to provide security. I honestly don't think the Russians can do that. As several people have stated, they are way in over their heads. The corruption and anti-gay laws, now the security issues. They should have never been awarded the 2014 Olympic games

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
24. Well, yes, but...at this point, do they call off the games? That is pretty unlikely
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 10:22 PM
Jan 2014

for a whole host of reasons. So the bigger countries involved should be offering as much support and security as feasible, because we all want it to be safe and successful, regardless of who is hosting or what they did or didn't do to prepare.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
30. I think it sets a bad precedent for future Olympics that other countries will bail another out
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 08:25 AM
Jan 2014

whether it be on security or monetary issues. Part of the bidding process is showing they can provide that. So obviously they lied about what they were capable of. There were two other countries who also bid against Russia and lost because they committee was convinced that Russia had the better bid. They obviously made a mistake.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
22. That's the problem, No one knows, and Anyway -- the Military is for
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 10:15 PM
Jan 2014

OUR country and it's protection against invaders, not policing around the Globe .

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
27. Isn't bombing the Olympics everyone's problem?
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 11:07 PM
Jan 2014

So why not everyone help everyone else out. You know cooperation, instead Putdowns, insults and belittling? The Olympics isn't DU after all.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
31. Let me ask you
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 08:38 AM
Jan 2014

When Russia bid for the Olympics, shouldn't security concerns been addressed. The Olympic Committee awarded them the games over two other cities based on the bid they made. So, if security concerns weren't taken seriously why did they get the bid? Were they lying?

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
32. Let me ask you some things.
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 11:41 AM
Jan 2014

Why must we always have animosity toward other countries. Why do we, as a country have to have enemies to function? Why can't we cooperate with other countries, for a change, to remedy a world wide problem? Never mind we are up to our eye brows in our own acts of terrorism against other countries, assuming some agency of our own government is not behind the Russian bombing, why can't we all cooperate in making the world safer? (See my sig line)

Needing an adversary, or enemy to function is a Conservative, Right-wing need. People on the Left have no such compulsion. We have instead, empathy, caring for others, wanting to help others. You seem to be having a problem with that, helping, that is.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
33. It's not about being an adversary or not, or being right or left as you assume
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 11:54 PM
Jan 2014

Doesn't matter to me whether we are talking about Russia, Japan, India, etc. The Olympics is a contract. They have agreed to host the games. Part of that was providing security. Did we help GB during the 2012 games? No Vancouver during the 2010 games? No. China during the 2008 games? No. All of those countries provided their own security and did it without an incident.

Again security is part of the contract of hosting the Olympics. So were they deceiving the Olympic Committee by telling them that there was adequate security? Yes or No? Please don't answer by floating CT about the US bombing Russia.

I don't have any problem with empathy, or caring for others thank you very much. You don't know me and are not qualified to make judgement about what I do or don't believe.

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