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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:21 PM Jan 2014

California drought: Jerry Brown declares emergency, asks public to ration water

Source: SFGate

Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday officially declared a drought emergency in California, asking residents to voluntarily reduce their water use by 20 percent and committing to bolster the state's dwindling water supplies with better management and federal assistance.

The order, announced at a news conference at the governor's San Francisco office, comes as the state is gripped by a third consecutive year of dry weather.

Rivers are running low. Snowpack is meager. And communities across California are worried about having sufficient water for homes, businesses and farmland. The dry weather also has increased the threat of wildfire, with record acreage burning this month, including a 1,700-acre fire that continues to char the hills above Los Angeles.

With the emergency declaration, Brown said he would make it easier for communities to transfer water from wetter parts of the state to dryer areas. He also said he would seek federal assistance, though he didn't detail that effort.

"We are in an unprecedented and very serious situation," Brown said. "It's important to awaken all Californians to the serious matter of drought and the lack of rain."


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/California-drought-Jerry-Brown-declares-5152625.php

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California drought: Jerry Brown declares emergency, asks public to ration water (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 OP
Wow. Flashback. I remember rationing water as a kid in the mid-70s drought... Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #1
What a de ja vu moment for you, eh? JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #3
Definitely. "La plus ca change" and all of that ... Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #5
Same here, I need greens and blues in my world. JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #6
Gov. Jerry Brown causes droughts Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #9
I think this will get worse and more widespread. JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #2
We need a moratorium on housing construction. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #4
I was doing drought tolerant but I think I'm going to have to a switch to succulents too Cleita Jan 2014 #13
Precisely the problem. That is why we have to water our trees. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #18
I have several trees for exactly that problem and also for shade and a wind Cleita Jan 2014 #19
A lot of California and Southwest natives do very well with almost no extra water XemaSab Jan 2014 #21
We are on a hillside. Our trees hold the earth together. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #29
I used to live in a flat area there. anasv Jan 2014 #38
Sorry, if you read the original post, I didn't mean it for you but the OP Cleita Jan 2014 #14
At some point people will move out someone else Jan 2014 #28
Republicon lies about climate change only make a bad situation worse Berlum Jan 2014 #7
If it's yellow, let it mellow...... (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #8
And what do you suppose I saw on the way to light rail this morning? KamaAina Jan 2014 #10
To be less judge mental, the plants are living things that need a drink too and Cleita Jan 2014 #12
It's pretty awful. Everything is dying and where I live it used to be Cleita Jan 2014 #11
Things you can do before you stop watering plants. Cleita Jan 2014 #15
Usually this implies watering lawns,flowers grilled onions Jan 2014 #16
It's been my experience that those people who have the highest Cleita Jan 2014 #17
+a lot Retrograde Jan 2014 #33
Can you imagine? No more 1 hour showers . jakeXT Jan 2014 #39
I believe an almost equal portion goes to lawns and golf courses...nt Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #20
Strawberries need water. quadrature Jan 2014 #22
And one more idea: Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #23
Close ALL the fucking golf courses? Brother Buzz Jan 2014 #24
That treated waste water Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #25
And think of the pesticides GP6971 Jan 2014 #26
That water is FOB waste treatment plant... Brother Buzz Jan 2014 #27
And considering that... CanSocDem Jan 2014 #40
We partially agree. Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #41
And I object to... CanSocDem Jan 2014 #42
OK, Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #43
No No No... CanSocDem Jan 2014 #44
Cadillac Desert. adirondacker Jan 2014 #30
It is an excellent book. I suspect that, Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #34
It is not raining up north either. roody Jan 2014 #46
I know we are going to need to update our mass transportation system ripcord Jan 2014 #31
Vote no on the Peripheral Tunnels The Second Stone Jan 2014 #32
Yep. It will kill the delta. But the north has long been Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #35
Speaking of California theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #36
Thanks for the heads up on this Berlum Jan 2014 #37
Sad. Yet, I've never understood why so many development ruled by Homeowner Associations question everything Jan 2014 #45
Growing numbers of those lush developments are using recycled water. Yet.... Brother Buzz Jan 2014 #47
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
1. Wow. Flashback. I remember rationing water as a kid in the mid-70s drought...
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:25 PM
Jan 2014

and Jerry Brown was governor.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
5. Definitely. "La plus ca change" and all of that ...
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:40 PM
Jan 2014

I live in Oregon now. I know a lot of Californians can't take the rain and gray skies here, but I don't think I was meant to exist in a semi-arid landscape. I like greenery and a tree canopy and and rain-washed air and moss and moisture. I'm wondering if that terrible drought of my childhood had something to do with my preference.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
6. Same here, I need greens and blues in my world.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:45 PM
Jan 2014

Michigander here! Visited Montana a few years ago, everything was beige. And dry. Was glad to get home. Glad you found home.

Julie

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
9. Gov. Jerry Brown causes droughts
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 03:02 PM
Jan 2014
and it's all part of a family conspiracy going back to when his father was governor
(can you say "California Aquaduct????&quot


--future headline on Newsmax

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
4. We need a moratorium on housing construction.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:38 PM
Jan 2014

The drought is not a matter of a single year or a few years. We live in a desert. The more people and the more housing we have, the more water we need. We have to limit our population in this state according to the water supply. Either that or we need to start desalinating the ocean water that is so plentiful at our shores.

We have very mature avocado trees. They were dying until we deep watered them upon the advice of an arborist. If Los Angeles is to be livable as a city, we have to have some trees. I and many like me have switched from grass to succulents to save water, but there are limits. We will be forced to limit our population through some means if we don't find a source for more water. A city of the size of Los Angeles may be unsustainable in a desert climate like Los Angeles.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
13. I was doing drought tolerant but I think I'm going to have to a switch to succulents too
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 03:38 PM
Jan 2014

and rocks. However they aren't so good at providing a watershed so when it does rain, the hill doesn't slide down.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. Precisely the problem. That is why we have to water our trees.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:13 PM
Jan 2014

My grandfather lived through part of the dust bowl. He became a conservationist. Trees must be protected. They hold the soil together. They secure hillsides. Trees are important and must be watered.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
19. I have several trees for exactly that problem and also for shade and a wind
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:15 PM
Jan 2014

break. I do give them a deep soak once a month. They are essential.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
21. A lot of California and Southwest natives do very well with almost no extra water
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:57 PM
Jan 2014

This isn't the year to plant, though. :\

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
29. We are on a hillside. Our trees hold the earth together.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:20 PM
Jan 2014

Our house moves with the weather. If it rains we can close or open doors and when it doesn't rain, we can close or open other doors. I changed my front garden to succulents earlier this year. I'm so glad I did although I realize that they don't hold the soil in place.

 

anasv

(225 posts)
38. I used to live in a flat area there.
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jan 2014

Same thing with the doors. It was the clay expanding and contracting. Not that there aren't nasty hillside problems.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
7. Republicon lies about climate change only make a bad situation worse
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:54 PM
Jan 2014

Republicons really need to stop lying, and get serious. This is going to impact their families, too.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. To be less judge mental, the plants are living things that need a drink too and
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 03:34 PM
Jan 2014

they feed a myriad of animal life that depend on them.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
11. It's pretty awful. Everything is dying and where I live it used to be
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 03:33 PM
Jan 2014

green at this time of year. Now it's dry and yellow. My Irish husband often said how the terrain here in winter reminded him of Ireland and made him a little homesick. I'm glad he didn't live long enough to have to witness this.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
15. Things you can do before you stop watering plants.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 03:55 PM
Jan 2014

Take fewer and shorter showers. Flush toilets once a day if only urine. Wash dishes once a day. Do less and only essential laundry. Don't wash your car. When you water plants, water each area only once a week and do it in the evening so it stays in the ground longer overnight. These little things save a lot of water in a week's time.

grilled onions

(1,957 posts)
16. Usually this implies watering lawns,flowers
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 03:59 PM
Jan 2014

But when I see all those huge homes and each one complete with a huge pool it makes me wonder how much water it takes to fill each one. Secondly all these homes have so many bathrooms often with kids who tend to play in the water(as kids do) but in the fewer bathroom homes there is often an adult close by telling them to stop playing in the water, turn the water off etc.
At one time California was semi desert to many. Water rationing was a given. It's sad to think that Death Valley mode may come to pass once again.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
17. It's been my experience that those people who have the highest
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:12 PM
Jan 2014

use of water because their homes are too big and have too many bathrooms and a pool are the least likely to try to conserve.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
33. +a lot
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 08:29 PM
Jan 2014

I've been through a few drought years here, with cutbacks on watering. What an across the board 20% cut does is penalize people who were frugal with water before things got dire. I got rid of my yard long ago, and now have plants that will survive with no summer watering. I'm not planning on planting rice or digging a swimming pool, but I intend to continue with my normal use - which my local utility recently informed me was among the lowest in the neighborhood for a house the size of mine.

Meanwhile, business complexes keep watering that green, green grass and letting the runoff flow into the gutters. When they cut down, I'll consider it.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
39. Can you imagine? No more 1 hour showers .
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 11:23 AM
Jan 2014

“I’m really worried about how this drought is going to affect us,” he said. “I heard about the drought in the ’70s, and how people couldn’t water their lawns and wash their cars. They could take only one-minute showers.”

“Can you believe that?” his wife said. “We’re used to taking an hour.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/18/us/as-californias-drought-deepens-a-sense-of-dread-grows.html

Brother Buzz

(36,431 posts)
24. Close ALL the fucking golf courses?
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:03 PM
Jan 2014

How about letting the ones that have been irrigating with treated waste water for decades continue to operate?

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
25. That treated waste water
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:11 PM
Jan 2014

should go to farms. Golf courses are a terrible waste of water, are a terrible waste of land and benefit a very tiny percentage of the population.

Brother Buzz

(36,431 posts)
27. That water is FOB waste treatment plant...
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:47 PM
Jan 2014

and they will sell it to anyone. Who pays for the pipelines to deliver it to the farmers?

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
40. And considering that...
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 11:48 AM
Jan 2014


...farms use the water to grow lettuce that contains more water than nutrients, farms as well appear to be a "terrible waste...".


.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
41. We partially agree.
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:13 PM
Jan 2014

There are certain crops, lettuce being one of them, that are a horrible waste of water, esp. for the lack of nutritional value in return. Our entire farming system could use reforming, everything from the use if "icides" to growing fruits, nuts and veggies that require less water to ensuring that minerals and nutrients are added back into the soil by natural means.

Having said that, my ORIGNAL objection was golf courses -- a complete waste of land and water that benefits a very small fraction of the population.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
42. And I object to...
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:32 PM
Jan 2014


...giving industry a pass while calling on the public to sacrifice more. While I don't object to public conservation, more attention should indeed be paid to the "entire farming system" that wastes resources like no industry I know.

The industrial food industry has even given FARMING a bad name.

.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
34. It is an excellent book. I suspect that,
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:48 PM
Jan 2014

similar to the last sustained drouth that we experienced in the 90s, the north will be asked to make sacrifices to benefit the south and central.

ripcord

(5,399 posts)
31. I know we are going to need to update our mass transportation system
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 03:13 AM
Jan 2014

But instead of investing a fortune in high speed rail California should be investing in efficient water collection, storage and desalinization, it is without a doubt the most urgent need.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
32. Vote no on the Peripheral Tunnels
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:44 PM
Jan 2014

that will ship all the Northern California delta water to 400 farmers in Fresno and Bakersfield.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
35. Yep. It will kill the delta. But the north has long been
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:52 PM
Jan 2014

the south and central delivery boy. It is an uphill battle for is environmentalists to defeat this.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
36. Speaking of California
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:59 PM
Jan 2014

I frequently check the USGS earthquake maps and in the past day there seems to be some increased activity... even for California. Five along the San Andreas.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/

question everything

(47,479 posts)
45. Sad. Yet, I've never understood why so many development ruled by Homeowner Associations
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 02:22 AM
Jan 2014

in SoCal insist of lush water hungry lawns.

Brother Buzz

(36,431 posts)
47. Growing numbers of those lush developments are using recycled water. Yet....
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 02:05 PM
Jan 2014

Dimes to donuts says those communities that use reclaimed water for irrigation will be the same asses that will believe they are doing more then their part in water conservation and will make no effort to save water inside their homes; twenty percent reduction is for chumps.

http://www.irwd.com/services/recycled-water

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