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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 07:48 PM Jan 2014

Cheerleader sues (Oakland) Raiders for withholding pay, not paying minimum wage

Source: Periscope Post

The Oakland Raiders were hit with a lawsuit on Wednesday in California court. One of the team’s cheerleaders, Lacy T., claims that the team withheld pay for the cheerleaders until the end of the season and that the women were not receiving the California minimum wage, which is $8 per hour.

The lawsuit states that “cheerleaders are to be paid only $1250 for working an entire season, which amounts to less than $5.00 per hour for the time that they spend rehearsing, performing and appearing at events where they are not paid.”


Read more: http://periscopepost.com/sports-24/cheerleader-sues-raiders-for-withholding-pay-not-paying-minimum-wage-2734.html

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Cheerleader sues (Oakland) Raiders for withholding pay, not paying minimum wage (Original Post) Redfairen Jan 2014 OP
Sound like a contract itsrobert Jan 2014 #1
$1250 is what the Raiders Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #2
lolz. True. nt okaawhatever Jan 2014 #3
I wonder how that GP6971 Jan 2014 #4
at 4 and 12, the Raiders don't have much goodwill. Their players should get paid the minimum wage. olddad56 Jan 2014 #5
Very true! n/t GP6971 Jan 2014 #6
There are some variations, but for the most part Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #10
Just because a job is glamorous that does not mean you should not get paid for it. AngryAmish Jan 2014 #13
I would imagine they there may be some additional business savvy not being perceived LanternWaste Jan 2014 #14
Good points Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #15
I'd sue the team for being incompetent since 2003. alp227 Jan 2014 #7
Doesn't matter if it is a full time job. Cal Carpenter Jan 2014 #8
According to the SF Chronicle, the woman got the real min wage with a previous cheer job alp227 Jan 2014 #11
As I understand it . . . aggiesal Jan 2014 #16
An NFL that treats its male stars like disposable commodities... Orsino Jan 2014 #9
This is more common than you think. Ash_F Jan 2014 #12

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
1. Sound like a contract
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 07:57 PM
Jan 2014

This is how companies get out of labor laws. They make everyone their own employer. FedEx Home Delivery works the same way, under a contract.

GP6971

(31,152 posts)
4. I wonder how that
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jan 2014

Compares to the rest of the NFL cheerleaders? Naturally the Raiders will counter with the benefits and value of the cheerleaders performing on a national stage........much like the team has put a value on their "goodwill".

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
5. at 4 and 12, the Raiders don't have much goodwill. Their players should get paid the minimum wage.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:03 PM
Jan 2014

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
10. There are some variations, but for the most part
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:32 AM
Jan 2014

cheerleaders make next to nothing...

Back in the late 90s I knew a college student cheerleading for the Atlanta Falcons...I don't remember the actual amount she made, but I remember being absolutely shocked at how little it was (it was definitely way less than $1200 per season)...

But most of them don't do it for the money anyways...For many it's about the exposure, being a small part of "the life" surrounding professional football, being able to watch games from a spot any fan would kill for, and yes, admittedly some do get into it for the sole purpose of bedding a professional athlete or two (or more)....

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
13. Just because a job is glamorous that does not mean you should not get paid for it.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 04:33 PM
Jan 2014

Raiders lose this one.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. I would imagine they there may be some additional business savvy not being perceived
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 04:38 PM
Jan 2014

"But most of them don't do it for the money anyways.."

I would imagine they there may be some additional business savvy not being perceived-- as that very same exposure and "the life" can also be perceived as very effective networking for future business ventures (though admittedly, doesn't fall into the comfortable stereotypes we often rationalize as a norm) such as insurance companies and PR firms.

I can't speak to how many, or whether this demographic is "most" or not-- as I'd only be guessing.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
15. Good points
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 04:53 PM
Jan 2014

I'm only speaking about what I've learned from cheerleaders I've actually known over the years (which is a grand total of 3)...

Granted, they were all college students at the time, and they all needed to work a second job for 'real' money...And for them at least it really was all about the fun and seeing the games up close....

I realize there are women a few years past college age who are cheerleading, so for them business networking or eventually finding a full-time office job with the team could definitely be motivations....

alp227

(32,021 posts)
7. I'd sue the team for being incompetent since 2003.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:17 AM
Jan 2014

Last edited Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:29 PM - Edit history (1)

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Anyway the team records since 2003:
2-14 in 2006
4-12 in 2003, 05, 07, 12, and 13
5-11 in 04, 08, 09
8-8 in 2010 & 2011
2002: 11-5 and Super Bowl loss 48-21 to Tampa, padded by two pick six scores by Tampa late

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
8. Doesn't matter if it is a full time job.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:24 AM
Jan 2014

They are workers, they are working, they are not being compensated at even the bare minimum legal amount. Can't even seem to get nominal support here for their efforts at exposing the shitty pay? Well, that doesn't surprise me anymore.

But thanks for sharing the team record. It really adds a lot to the topic at hand.

alp227

(32,021 posts)
11. According to the SF Chronicle, the woman got the real min wage with a previous cheer job
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 03:35 PM
Jan 2014
with the local basketball team:

The 27-year-old Alameda resident, hired by the Raiders before the 2013 season, said she was treated much better in the previous two years as a member of the Golden State Warriors' dance team, the Warrior Girls. They were paid $10 to $14 an hour, depending on experience, with no unpaid work or expenses, she said.


If that's true and California is a state run by the rule of law, then the Raiders should get the book thrown at 'em. The law is the law, I don't care if the woman signed a "contract". Assuming Lacy danced with the Warriors from 2011 to 2013 that would include the strike-shortened, 23-43 season where the team would have lost a lot of profit. If the Warriors (who have had plenty of poor seasons in recent years til 2012-13) can afford to pay their cheerleaders the legal wage, why can't the Raiders?

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
16. As I understand it . . .
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:11 PM
Jan 2014

each NFL team receives enough money from their TV & Radio contracts
to pay everyone in their teams organization without selling 1 ticket.

So they are profitable without having to play 1 game. All those tickets
sales only pad to their profits, so they should be able to pay at least a minimum wage.

Back in the 80's I heard they got paid $50 per game plus 2 tickets to each
home game (And they were not the best seats).

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
9. An NFL that treats its male stars like disposable commodities...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jan 2014

...easily gets away with cheaping out on some less-visible women.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
12. This is more common than you think.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 03:41 PM
Jan 2014

Many industries abuse their workers and violate FLSA requirements. I wish her well.

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